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[Soruc]

In that case, if you're licensed, and take proper care of the wolves, I have nothing wrong with you owning one.

[^~LegacyWolf~^]

In that case, if you're licensed, and take proper care of the wolves, I have nothing wrong with you owning one.

I've owned and raised wolves for over 12 years of my life, so I think I know quite a bit about them. I'm not as young as most on this site are... <.<

[Thestormwitch]

Can I join?
I have loved wolves my entire life and (just about) every thing in my life revolves around wolves! :3
I live 2 hour away from a place called "wolf timbers" if is a place where they have 2 wolves and they put on "shows" (don't wory they don't make the wolves do tricks) they show people how gentile wolves really are. they did have 3 wolves but one died in august :'(
he had some kind of cancer and I love to donate my money to defenders of wildlife
Oh and I don't know any more sites (to donate money to wolves) other than defenders of wildlife but i do have my own wolf site
http://www.wonderfulwolves.webs.com

[Soruc]

Wolves aren't gentle, nor are they naturally kindhearted.

[.yuanfen]

I s'pose they have the capacity to be gentle and kindhearted, but not necessarily in the way humans usually think about being gentle and "loving". Their form of love is different from ours, so, I guess you are right. They aren't gentle, not in human terms, anyway.They can't make muffins or chocolate chip cookies, or give you a band-aid when you get scraped. They don't help you build a tree house or sew quilts for you. For humans, that's what we associate with being kind. But for wolves, they simply do what they can to survive. Even the puppies' play is, or so I read, a way for them to build upon the vital skills they will need in real life. The parents feed the pups because they have to.
Also another thing I've heard is that wolf parents kill pups if the pups are "defective" or seem to be weak. This is natural- those pups probably won't last very long, anyway, and the wolf parents are simply destroying the puppy's blood so that it can't have more defective babies. Domesticated dogs sometimes do this. And it's not just wolves- lots of other species do this as well. It's common sense.
But somehow humans found something attractive about the defective wolves, and that's why we have dogs with super-short legs, curly fur, and floppy ears- we like those sort of things, and that's alright, but, really, how long do you think your Chihuahua will survive out in the forest by itself?
I watched on a documentary that people actually took the wolves with floppy ears and bred them for that characteristic, then started breeding them for more wolf-like ears because they liked that as well.


I feel like I'm getting farther off topic as I go on...

[Soruc]

I s'pose they have the capacity to be gentle and kindhearted, but not necessarily in the way humans usually think about being gentle and "loving". Their form of love is different from ours, so, I guess you are right. They aren't gentle, not in human terms, anyway.They can't make muffins or chocolate chip cookies, or give you a band-aid when you get scraped. They don't help you build a tree house or sew quilts for you. For humans, that's what we associate with being kind. But for wolves, they simply do what they can to survive. Even the puppies' play is, or so I read, a way for them to build upon the vital skills they will need in real life. The parents feed the pups because they have to.
Also another thing I've heard is that wolf parents kill pups if the pups are "defective" or seem to be weak. This is natural- those pups probably won't last very long, anyway, and the wolf parents are simply destroying the puppy's blood so that it can't have more defective babies. Domesticated dogs sometimes do this. And it's not just wolves- lots of other species do this as well. It's common sense.
But somehow humans found something attractive about the defective wolves, and that's why we have dogs with super-short legs, curly fur, and floppy ears- we like those sort of things, and that's alright, but, really, how long do you think your Chihuahua will survive out in the forest by itself?
I watched on a documentary that people actually took the wolves with floppy ears and bred them for that characteristic, then started breeding them for more wolf-like ears because they liked that as well.


I feel like I'm getting farther off topic as I go on...

That last part's interesting, I never knew that.

[kishinuma]

I only knew a little about that,but i like that. =D

[wolves+horses]

Yup, that's selective breeding. And the parents won't directly kill the defective pup, but they certainly won't favor it. Kind of like with a runt, they will just take worse care of it, and it'll die on its own.
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Glad humans don't do that.

[H o w l i n g]

Yup, that's selective breeding. And the parents won't directly kill the defective pup, but they certainly won't favor it. Kind of like with a runt, they will just take worse care of it, and it'll die on its own.
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Glad humans don't do that. : ?

@The last part-
Some humans do.
Back on topic, though.

What are we talking about? Defective traits in wolves?

[^~LegacyWolf~^]

I s'pose they have the capacity to be gentle and kindhearted, but not necessarily in the way humans usually think about being gentle and "loving". Their form of love is different from ours, so, I guess you are right. They aren't gentle, not in human terms, anyway.They can't make muffins or chocolate chip cookies, or give you a band-aid when you get scraped. They don't help you build a tree house or sew quilts for you. For humans, that's what we associate with being kind. But for wolves, they simply do what they can to survive. Even the puppies' play is, or so I read, a way for them to build upon the vital skills they will need in real life. The parents feed the pups because they have to.
Also another thing I've heard is that wolf parents kill pups if the pups are "defective" or seem to be weak. This is natural- those pups probably won't last very long, anyway, and the wolf parents are simply destroying the puppy's blood so that it can't have more defective babies. Domesticated dogs sometimes do this. And it's not just wolves- lots of other species do this as well. It's common sense.
But somehow humans found something attractive about the defective wolves, and that's why we have dogs with super-short legs, curly fur, and floppy ears- we like those sort of things, and that's alright, but, really, how long do you think your Chihuahua will survive out in the forest by itself?
I watched on a documentary that people actually took the wolves with floppy ears and bred them for that characteristic, then started breeding them for more wolf-like ears because they liked that as well.


I feel like I'm getting farther off topic as I go on...

You are very correct in this. Wolves are gentle in terms of their own, they work as a society/hierarchy type of system that associate to each individual in their pack -- being each have their place and job/title in which they work with, in such, humans can relate to that if you really think about it. They are gentle to a point, but do have their own ways of communication that works with one another, as humans, we don't see it the same way, but at the same time, we have our 'own' ways that we use that can indirectly relate to how wolves work with one another.

Fun stuff to read about in documentaries, I'm glad there are people willing to really read and learn about wolves, plus their history that also relate to our dogs today.