A Guide to Hoarding - All you need to know about hoards!

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Re: A Guide to Hoarding - All you need to know about hoards!

Postby ~Razzle~ » Thu Aug 18, 2011 3:51 pm

This guide didn't seem to help much. There are no tips on how to start or build up a hoard, no visual examples, just questions and a list.
so I haven't been on this site in like, forever, so I'm briefly back on to get rid of lots of my pets in exchange for art of my dog. Also if you do art and want pets send me a pm I'd love to work something out
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Re: A Guide to Hoarding - All you need to know about hoards!

Postby 'Possum » Fri Aug 19, 2011 3:51 am

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What do you mean how to start a hoard? If you've got a tendency towards hoarding it just comes naturally. If not, just start gathering whatever pet you're drawn to.
What kind of tips do you need? That's like asking for tips on how to breathe.
What exactly are you looking for help with? Starting a hoard is just trading for multiples of whatever you're hoarding. Tips are the same as trading for anything else.
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Re: A Guide to Hoarding - All you need to know about hoards!

Postby ~Razzle~ » Fri Aug 19, 2011 3:36 pm

I don't need tips, I'm talking about the other people.
Tips on how to get more pets into your hoard, tips on how to get the first pets to start a hoard, etc. This is basically a introduction, not much of a guide.
so I haven't been on this site in like, forever, so I'm briefly back on to get rid of lots of my pets in exchange for art of my dog. Also if you do art and want pets send me a pm I'd love to work something out
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Re: A Guide to Hoarding - All you need to know about hoards!

Postby Solloby » Fri Sep 02, 2011 7:02 pm

I have a hypothetical question: If I were to liquidate my entire collection by trading it all for a stupid amount of CE Galaxies, how far do you think I could push it up the Rares List? Obviously I wouldn't do that, but how much damage do you think a single person could do to a mid Rares List pet's supply and thus value by hoarding it endlessly?

Back in realworldland, I have to say that mini hoards are very fun, especially when you try to alternate their colours or make patterns! It helps if you can find someone with a mixed hoard to ID swap with <3

The guide should include patterned hoards since that's an extra challenge. Basically you need more pets than you'll use in the hoard, or you'll have to run around finding people to ID swap with.
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Re: A Guide to Hoarding - All you need to know about hoards!

Postby Takora Drakan » Fri Sep 02, 2011 7:28 pm

Solloby wrote:I have a hypothetical question: If I were to liquidate my entire collection by trading it all for a stupid amount of CE Galaxies, how far do you think I could push it up the Rares List? Obviously I wouldn't do that, but how much damage do you think a single person could do to a mid Rares List pet's supply and thus value by hoarding it endlessly?


I think you just managed to TILT my brain. Do you mean if hypothetically you traded your entire collection away for as much CE Galaxies as you can get, you would probably end up with a few, that you would rise their "rarity" by taking much of them out of the market so to say? I am not sure how much you collection would be worth, but even if so to say you would take 20 of them out of circulation, their rarity would not rise so to say in my view. The demand would be the same, but 20 of them missing, sure the demand VS available would be disbalanced, but pets are truly never out of circulation so to say. Many people often keep a pet for a while, and then trade it away/auction it off to get something else. While a pet would be not avialable for a while, it would come back sooner or later. Also you have to think about confiscated pets, even people with very valuable collections are banned because they cheat in one way to another or did cheat in the past (because everyone gets caught thanks to the cheating detection of Nick), they would be again in circulation, thanks to the pound. And the circle starts new. Sure there is a limited amount of CE Galaxies available, and people are quitting and not giving them away etc. But Dec. 18th comes into play, with many users bringing fresh CE Galaxies into the game. More users= more re-realeased.

TLDR No, I do not think they hypothetical value would rise, since the amout stays reasonable the same that are in the circulation.
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Re: A Guide to Hoarding - All you need to know about hoards!

Postby Solloby » Fri Sep 02, 2011 8:10 pm

Takora Drakan wrote:Many people often keep a pet for a while, and then trade it away/auction it off to get something else. While a pet would be not avialable for a while, it would come back sooner or later. Also you have to think about confiscated pets, even people with very valuable collections are banned because they cheat in one way to another or did cheat in the past (because everyone gets caught thanks to the cheating detection of Nick), they would be again in circulation, thanks to the pound. And the circle starts new.

But this happens anyway - the ones in the hoard would not re-enter circulation via these methods (hypothetically; because if I did do something this odd I would have to release them to serious collectors if I managed to screw up the supply enough, which would prevent the major screw up I'm hypothesising about to a degree). As for Dec 18, I would have to take as many of those CE Galaxies as possible for my hypothetical hoard.

I guess the question is, how many CE Galaxies can you get with a full set of July and August 08 dogs, and is it enough to seriously screw up the supply? I think you could get at least 30 (assuming their value doesn't skyrocket in response halfway through). Keeping in mind it wouldn't work that simply because the Galaxies are spread across multiple people, so it's unrealistic to expect say only Galaxies for every July 08 VR/OMG. I think that would be the biggest hurdle facing someone crazy enough to do this. Also, only people with the July and August 08 pets, or other high rares list stuff such as the Zebras and high level URs, would be in any position to do this. And since it hasn't happened yet (not to a main Rares List pet anyway) one could assume nobody can/will do anything like this, to that extent anyway. But if it did happen, it would be very interesting.

Sorry if I've taken this thread onto a tangent, I just find the idea of a single person using a hoard to cause a noticeable impact on the site rather intruiging.
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Re: A Guide to Hoarding - All you need to know about hoards!

Postby Takora Drakan » Fri Sep 02, 2011 9:05 pm

The thing is, we do not know the number of CE Galaxies, and without those it is hard to guess if it would have impact or not, and we won't get the numbers unless Nick gives them out, which he sure won't. xD Also you would need to split up your collection and trade it off piece by piece to get CE after CE, since there is probably no person out with 30 CE Galaxies, and is willing to trade them off.

It would probably have more of an impact if you would hoard Sunjewels, since those are really freaking rare.

And the disscussion is rather interesting in my eyes 8D
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Re: A Guide to Hoarding - All you need to know about hoards!

Postby Solloby » Fri Sep 02, 2011 9:16 pm

Sunjewels and UR Tigers they would be too hard to hoard because they are so expensive. I don't think anyone has a collection that could turn into a sizeable Sunjewel or UR Tiger hoard. Then again, you wouldn't need that many to create an imbalance.

Hmm, it would be nice if this guide included suggestions for how to go about starting and maintaining rare versus common hoards, in addition to advanced hoards such as patterns. It might also be nice if it included some info on how to get rid of a hoard, since some people might decide they don't want them anymore - selling the hoard as a hoard, trading them off individually, donating them to the pound or other users, using them to convert to another hoard etc.
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Re: A Guide to Hoarding - All you need to know about hoards!

Postby Takora Drakan » Fri Sep 02, 2011 9:28 pm

I had a rat hoard for a while, I hoarded all rats with the "fin/fishback" lineart, and also the demon rats, but realized then that I did not like the hoard so much anymore, and I had too much hoards over the time in my eyes. So the rat hoard needed to go in favour of my egyptian cat hoard.

Since rats are the lowest valuable pets besides spiders, there was no sense to trade the whole hoard off or auction it, since I traded many dogs away for the rats, and I would not get back what I paid for them. I just stuffed them in my trade group and slowly they are traded now away.

It is sure easier to get rid of a dog hoard and such.
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Re: A Guide to Hoarding - All you need to know about hoards!

Postby Bartimaeus » Fri Sep 02, 2011 10:40 pm

I think something that would be more effective of raising their rarity would be to collect as many, say, CE Galaxies as possible --- only to delete the hoard afterwards. This would definately make them go up, I feel.

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