Your Opinion On Wolves?

[~krista~]

I believe they deserve to be free. Yes, their population numbers need to be controlled. But when they are important to their habitats. Just look at Yellowstone National Park. After all of the wolves were removed/killed populations of other species were eventually undermined. Look what's happened now that they're back. Population numbers are back up. The ecosystem is thriving instead of suffering. If you do not believe me, look it up

[Zarago]

I believe they deserve to be free. Yes, their population numbers need to be controlled. But when they are important to their habitats. Just look at Yellowstone National Park. After all of the wolves were removed/killed populations of other species were eventually undermined. Look what's happened now that they're back. Population numbers are back up. The ecosystem is thriving instead of suffering. If you do not believe me, look it up

Exactly.

Before the wolves returned, elk were destroying the land by eating all the new shoots of plants because there were so many with nothing to keep their populations down naturally. When people found the missing link, the wolf, they reintroduced them into the land and they started to chase the elk which had never seen wolves in their lifetime. As the elk population decreased, willows and other young trees had a chance to grow because the elk had to keep moving because of them being hunted by the new wolves. Because of more trees growing up the banks of the rivers, beavers could finally build their dams well, instead of struggling to find wood to build them. Now beavers are building dams everywhere, dividing water across the land, creating a richer and more diverse Yellowstone.

Wolves are extremely important to the ecosystem, without them, Yellowstone and alike places with wolves would not have the beauty and the richness that it does today. Wolves are far more vital to this planet than anyone ever imagined, they deserve respect from everyone.

Wolves in general? Or grey wolves?

Greys used to be my favorite animal, until I met wolfaboos. It may sound mean and unfair to wolves, but, sorry that's just how it happened. I am (still) a wolf lover whom supports regulated hunting, conservation through zoos/parks, and etc of grey wolves. But it gets tiring being told why wolves are SO much better than every other animal on Earth. Do I still like greys? Yes. Do they need help: No, put your efforts on animals who are going to become extinct.

Endangered wolves, on the other hand, wolfaboos did not ruin. Arabian, Mexican, Iberian, Ethiopian and the likes need help via protection and conservation, not hate because of wolfaboos.

tl;dr

I like wolves, and support population control of greys and conservation/protection of endangered wolves. But wolfaboos are starting to kill greys for me, and need to know there are many more animals out there in need of protection/saving than the grey.

/claps Bravo. I love Ethiopian Wolves! And other animals like the Amur leopard (|D) with only around thirty left in the wild, and about three hundred in zoos and such.

Actually, to a wolf, humans are their most formidable enemy. They will run away from a human until there is no longer any proof of them being close by, and yet they are less afraid of bears, a much stronger and more aggressive predator. As I said, wolves do not know the difference between a person who is out to get them or out to save them, they are all the same to a wolf.

You're completely missing my point. Wolves simply rely on instinct to tell them 'it is a predator, it needs to be avoided'. And yes, they are all the same to a wolf: a predator that needs to be avoided.

Thankfully, stealing animals from the wild and selling them to places like zoos is banned in most countries, but it still does happen, mostly illegally. I am not saying that it happens all the time, I was just pointing out to Annabeth101 how stressed and upset those animals would be. I have been to many zoos, and there is often just a pane of glass between the animals and the guests. This glass doesn't seem to affect most of the animals, they learn to ignore the screaming, but if it was a wild-born animal, can you imagine the stress that it would be going through? I've seen hand-raised tigers pacing up and down because of children yelling and screaming whenever it moved.

People very rarely 'steal' animals from the wild and sell them to zoos. Usually, a zoo gets a wild animal if it needed to be relocated or was saved from a poacher's trap. Again transfers from wild to zoo is uncommon. Zookeepers aren't idiots, they know if an animal is stressed and might transfer it to a wildlife preserve or simply give it stress relief medication. Again, most are zoo-born so this doesn't happen very often.

If a wild wolf were to be introduced into a zoo (say to recover from an injury or just for the seller to gain some money from it) the worst thing for it would be to be kept in a restricted area surrounded by people which it had learnt to fear. It would be torture until the wolf would of found a place where it feels safer than other places. You can never fully tame a wild animal, and being stared and pointed at is not a way to start.

[Zarago]

Here we go again.

We clearly have different opinions, but because of experience I have had on this thread and in other places with conversations very similar to this, I'd like to stop this debate before it get's messy (well, it already is in a sense, your posts are very difficult to read, no offence). The annoyance that I have received has driven me up the wall in these topics, I just want to have friendly discussions where the other side does not mock for every little mistake that I or somebody else may make.

If you have a negative opinion on wolves, by all means you may post it on here, and if I or somebody else retaliates against the negativeness, don't reply immaturely or rudely.

And as a small reply to your post, I do know that animals being taken out of the wild and sold to parks and zoos is extremely rare, especially in respectable areas. Also, if they didn't know that humans were one of the most dangerous predators to them, why wouldn't they run away from bears every time they saw them, instead of wait closeby and not seem to fear them much? Just so you know, that was not a question that you need to answer.

And also so you know, I am not going to go low enough to reply to any more of your comments to my posts, basically, I shall just ignore them to avoid annoyance to myself. Try not to take that the wrong way.

[tigerwolf]

I've loved wolves since long before I found out how popular wolf-lovers are on the Internet. I still love them even though it makes me feel like I'm blending in with the crowd and doing what everyone else is doing, and I don't like that feeling. Either way, I love dogs and wolves in a way that is unexplainable. Not because it's "cool" to like wolves, but becuase I can relate to their way of life, instincts, and energy.

[Zarago]

I've loved wolves since long before I found out how popular wolf-lovers are on the Internet. I still love them even though it makes me feel like I'm blending in with the crowd and doing what everyone else is doing, and I don't like that feeling. Either way, I love dogs and wolves in a way that is unexplainable. Not because it's "cool" to like wolves, but becuase I can relate to their way of life, instincts, and energy.

I completely and utterly agree with you, I wish that wolves weren't viewed the way they were on the internet and in real life. On the internet, there are a lot of people who worship wolves because as you said, it's "cool" to like wolves. In real life (at least where I live) wolves are the animal that children learn to fear through games and stories, there is not an animal that is more falsely accused of killing and just generally being up to no good than the wolf. Sharks are similar in a way, but there is not as many false stories and games about sharks as wolves have.

I do not like the feeling of being the same as everyone else, but I do care and respect wolves in a way that wolfaboos don't. Wolfaboos are obsessed with wolves for their coolness, not their beauty and skills. I started to learn about wolves when I watched a programme called "Yellowstone" by the BBC (British Broadcasting Corporation), I have learnt more and more over the years.

[pizzas and scream]

opinion, i find a lot of wolf fans/lovers do not know much about them. they are casual fans. not Lupologists. or what ever a wolf scientist is called.

[Zarago]

opinion, i find a lot of wolf fans/lovers do not know much about them. they are casual fans. not Lupologists. or what ever a wolf scientist is called.

I have found that out too, they do not know much about the animal, they just like them because everyone else does, which gives them a stupid image.

A person who studies wolves is called a wolf biologist I believe.

[woofers.]

Back on FooPets some dude called iPlayfools loved something then the next day everyone else was loved it, it bugs me. And like on the thing Vampy did on Pirates vs Ninjas. Everyone liked pirates simply because Vampy did.

[Zarago]

Back on FooPets some dude called iPlayfools loved something then the next day everyone else was loved it, it bugs me. And like on the thing Vampy did on Pirates vs Ninjas. Everyone liked pirates simply because Vampy did.

Yep, but instead of just someone starting to like it, it's become a trend to like wolves, which is still weak minded.

Y so sheep?