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[kamado.]

just something to note about more ‘whimsical’ names: not everyone here speaks english with complete fluency! whatever is the simplest way to go about it is often the best route to take!

[Kesidi]

just something to note about more ‘whimsical’ names: not everyone here speaks english with complete fluency! whatever is the simplest way to go about it is often the best route to take!

If I, English being my second language, can weigh to this - I think that more distinct names (like legendary and mystical - yk words that look different right of the bat) albeit whimsical will work just as well and maybe even better than the very similar looking names we have now. Actually I still remember being confused about common/uncommon because of how similar they look (back when I didn't know their meaning) 😅

Also the colourful bars/starts are IMO more important here, which is why I think they should be a nice rainbow gradient so anyone can see where their pet stands on this rainbow

[InugamiChi]

Addressing this challenge is quite tricky. I remember feeling elated the last time the pet rarities were reorganized. However, achieving the right balance is always a challenge. It seems like numerous pets end up being lumped together in the same category, leading the community to assign them a 'second rating,' which often ends up becoming an unofficial measure for the pet's worth.

[Alina]

just something to note about more ‘whimsical’ names: not everyone here speaks english with complete fluency! whatever is the simplest way to go about it is often the best route to take!

I second this. English is not my mother tongue but I’ve learned it for more than 10 years and would personally say that I understand it very well. But these whimsical names confuse me so much. I don’t like them at all and also think that 4 new rarities are enough of a change, we don’t really need 11 new names on top of that, especially completely new ones. Also, think about the players that might be on hiatus and come back in a few weeks that would have to face a complete new rarity system and new names for everything on top of that. I don’t see a problem at all with the current names, I can understand that some religious people want the OMG to be changed for religious reasons maybe but I don’t see any reason or any need to change everything to be honest. I personally also don’t think that these mythical names suit this site at all. As a very old player it would honestly make me extremely sad if the names would be changed to something completely different ..

[Queen Vivane]

I am in favour of not adding new rarities but distributing pets between the already existing ones a little more evenly

[Cygnetta]

Really like these stars, though I think the omg so rare would need a different colour (which might need to shift the other colours a bit as well). I prefer the stars with lighter backgrounds over those with dark that someone else proposed.




Just throwing this here as example for bars with dimension of the originals.

First has more muted colours in yellow and cyan as well as a lighter pink that I think distinguishes better (I prefer the first)







In regards to names, I’m partial to ”extremely” being used and all names as on the first page. However, even while being at first against ”super” and ”super duper”, I think that they are fitting in a more ”childlike” way and goes well with the ”OMG so”:s while still being clear on which is worth more than the other.

I just spent ages thinking of colour designs, had a look at this and saw this is basically what I've done haha, 100% agree with this design, I think it's brilliant ! Keeps the rainbow look in there, colours smoothly transition, it's clear what each one is and it takes full use of purples, blues, greens etc. Amazing. Perfection 🤌🏻

Ok I really like all the colors! It fits the bright feel of the site! I still like the notches--they provide that extra bit of distinctness for those who can't distinguish colors as well.

Also I want to come out and say that I too do not appreciate "OMG". I didn't say it before because I didn't think it was an issue for anyone else, but reading these posts, apparently it is. I guess it's actually important to quite a few people on this site, so I feel more confident that my words might make a change. I am Christian, and it's pretty disrespectful. I don't want to run the risk of becoming too argumentative for this site, but if you're saying God's name every time you're surprised or angry, that's like saying your girlfriend's name every time you're surprised or angry. She would not appreciate that. And no, thinking of it as "oh my goodness" does not completely solve the problem. Goodness is a very holy and important trait of God, and using it flippantly is pretty disrespectful as well. I'm seeing that this isn't just a fringe issue that isn't significant to most players, so staff please consider making a change.

[wolfykins]

after reviewing lacuna's very helpful post, this would be a rarity line i could get behind and see working very well.

Abundant (A) *possible replacement for OMGSC due to the 'omg' concern
Extremely Common (EC)
Very Common (VC)
Common (C)
Uncommon (UC)
Very Uncommon (VUC)
Extremely Uncommon (EUC)
Rare (R)
Very Rare (VR)
Extremely Rare (ER)
Legendary (L) *possible replacement for OMGSR due to the 'omg' concern

i'm not a fan of the whimsical names at all; i think it's too nebulous/vague, especially in light of those pointing out that this site is geared towards a younger audience who may not understand the words. i understand wanting to have unique shorthand versions for rarities, but i think there's a way to make those work while still sticking to the relatively straightforward naming conventions of our current system (which is why i provided examples of them in my list above). i feel that occam's razor applies here: the simplest option is almost always the best!

I like this idea as well 💜❤🙂

[UnfathomableDreams]

I hope the staff will consider doing polls about name changes. It is not fair for one of the most long-lasting, iconic things on the site to potentially be taken away just because a handful of people say so - especially because Christians do not own the word god - there are many religions with gods or godlike deities that are referred to as such in English.

As much as I want fairer trading and a more even system, I'd change my vote to no changes if it was between keeping OMGSR and adding new rarities. If you joined the site and chose to stay here despite how "offensive" it was, honestly that's kind of on you at that point.

There are always ways that you can alter websites - I'm sure there are plenty of people who would be willing to code a script that changes OMGSR/etc into another word or remove any graphics that say it.

The point is, if the staff is even considering getting rid of OMGSR (I hope not!) I really hope they'll at least give us a poll about it first. At least give it a fighting chance.

[not zinnia]

after reviewing lacuna's very helpful post, this would be a rarity line i could get behind and see working very well.

OMG so Common (OMGSC)
Extremely Common (EC)
Very Common (VC)
Common (C)
Uncommon (UC)
Very Uncommon (VUC)
Extremely Uncommon (EUC)
Rare (R)
Very Rare (VR)
Extremely Rare (ER)
OMG so Rare (OMGSR)

i'm not a fan of the whimsical names at all; i think it's too nebulous/vague, especially in light of those pointing out that this site is geared towards a younger audience who may not understand the words. i understand wanting to have unique shorthand versions for rarities, but i think there's a way to make those work while still sticking to the relatively straightforward naming conventions of our current system (which is why i provided examples of them in my list above). i feel that occam's razor applies here: the simplest option is almost always the best!

This is definitely the best naming proposal, I love it

I'm so confused why rengoku's post got edited?? The list above is just a copy/paste of the list in the main post...For anyone else who is just as confused about this, here's rengoku's actual post where they propose the abundant/legendary naming conventions (I would also like to point out that this list is exactly the same as the one proposed in the main post, just replacing the "OMG" naming conventions):

after reviewing lacuna's very helpful post, this would be a rarity line i could get behind and see working very well.

Abundant (A) *possible replacement for OMGSC due to the 'omg' concern
Extremely Common (EC)
Very Common (VC)
Common (C)
Uncommon (UC)
Very Uncommon (VUC)
Extremely Uncommon (EUC)
Rare (R)
Very Rare (VR)
Extremely Rare (ER)
Legendary (L) *possible replacement for OMGSR due to the 'omg' concern

i'm not a fan of the whimsical names at all; i think it's too nebulous/vague, especially in light of those pointing out that this site is geared towards a younger audience who may not understand the words. i understand wanting to have unique shorthand versions for rarities, but i think there's a way to make those work while still sticking to the relatively straightforward naming conventions of our current system (which is why i provided examples of them in my list above). i feel that occam's razor applies here: the simplest option is almost always the best!

EDIT; I personally do not agree with this suggestion. I just wanted to lay this out for the sake of clarity for anyone reading the thread chronologically.

I would argue, if we're pulling out Occam's razor, that it would be more in-line with the philosophy of Occam's razor to not change the rarities that already exist!

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I don't wish to minimize the feelings of anyone who finds "OMG" to be disrespectful.

However, I would like to point out that if we want to talk about disrespecting "god", then we'd also have to talk about disrespecting Allah's name and YHWH's name; disrespecting Buddhism and Hinduism and Paganism and other polytheistic religions by not recognizing the existence of multiple gods; disrespecting Atheists by assuming there's a god in the first place; etc. etc. you get my point. It's not all about the Christians; the Christian god isn't the only god that people believe in, nor is the Christian god the most important god.

So yeah, let's not talk about "OMG", haha

[Eaglespirit]

Part of me wonders if 4 new categories is too many but the other part of me goes 'ooh rainbow make brain go brrrrrrrr!'. And I do like that it makes it more consistent with the 'very's and 'extremely's being equal across the names instead of just very common and very rare.
I also quite enjoy the use of 'abundant' and 'legendary' to replace the lowest and highest catagory names.