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Which path should we take to improve the pet rarity system?

Poll ended at Mon Aug 21, 2023 11:06 pm

Keep the current categories, but spread pets out more across the categories we have
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Add a new "very uncommon" rarity category
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Add four new rarity categories
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Total votes : 5068

Re: We need your feedback on an update to the rarity system!

Postby Lex. » Sun Aug 20, 2023 8:31 am

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ShadowKatto wrote:Do we really have to complain about OMGSC/OMGSR? I think that it’s just fine, and I personally love the name. We should be coming up with names for the 4 new rarities instead of arguing about the ones that already exist.

^ agreed. I think changing omgsr/omgsc would just cause unnecessary confusion. I'm okay/support extremely or incredibly, both are clearly more than very. I do not like super because I don't feel there is a clear distinction between super and very. I prefer clear language for rarities so I don't have to look at a guide online to figure out what is rarer, this is the same problem I have with the whimsical labeling. It's not clear enough to what the hierarchy of worth is.


Agree x3. I don't think the OMG labels are inherently bad or wrong, since as other people pointed out, "OMG" can stand for anything, and at least for me I just say the abbreviation itself, "OMG" and not "Oh my god/gosh/goodness so rare." Even if it did stand for "Oh my god," that isn't inherently a bad phrase or anything? I live in an area where people are mostly Christian/religious and people say this phrase all the time, so to me I think complaining about it and proposing it to be changed is silly. For me, it simply means an exclamation. (like another word for wow)

I actually like the OMG labels because they're unique and silly-sounding. Every other game/website has a "legendary" rarity but not "OMG so rare." The latter fits with the theme of this site better. Besides, the rarity system just needs an update, not a complete overhaul.


I was going to say something about this before but couldn't find the words. You described it perfectly, it's not an inherently bad phrase nor is it meant that way. Other games already use mythical and legendary so often, OMGSR/SC feels so unique for CS.
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Re: We need your feedback on an update to the rarity system!

Postby Wookieinmashoo » Sun Aug 20, 2023 9:15 am

I just never cared for OMG not because of whatever it stood for, but because it sounds incredibly dated. We already abbreviate rarities to save space so having OMGSR (and OMGSC) is just two abbreviations rammed together.
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Re: We need your feedback on an update to the rarity system!

Postby peachy! » Sun Aug 20, 2023 9:35 am

Some of these responses feel very dismissive and "welp not our problem." If there's clear frustration over how the trading system functions and no way to calm it, why make it more confusing?
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Re: We need your feedback on an update to the rarity system!

Postby ShadowKatto » Sun Aug 20, 2023 10:00 am

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after reviewing lacuna's very helpful post, this would be a rarity line i could get behind and see working very well.

OMG so Common (OMGSC)
Extremely Common (EC)
Very Common (VC)
Common (C)
Uncommon (UC)
Very Uncommon (VUC)
Extremely Uncommon (EUC)
Rare (R)
Very Rare (VR)
Extremely Rare (ER)
OMG so Rare (OMGSR)

i'm not a fan of the whimsical names at all; i think it's too nebulous/vague, especially in light of those pointing out that this site is geared towards a younger audience who may not understand the words. i understand wanting to have unique shorthand versions for rarities, but i think there's a way to make those work while still sticking to the relatively straightforward naming conventions of our current system (which is why i provided examples of them in my list above). i feel that occam's razor applies here: the simplest option is almost always the best!


I like this name proposal the best, I like how both ends of the rarity scale have their own distinct names and how each tier (common, uncommon, rare) all have 3 levels.

This is definitely the best naming proposal, I love it
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Re: We need your feedback on an update to the rarity system!

Postby Maligator » Sun Aug 20, 2023 10:44 am

ShadowKatto wrote:
Gionori wrote:quote="rengoku."]
after reviewing lacuna's very helpful post, this would be a rarity line i could get behind and see working very well.

OMG so Common (OMGSC)
Extremely Common (EC)
Very Common (VC)
Common (C)
Uncommon (UC)
Very Uncommon (VUC)
Extremely Uncommon (EUC)
Rare (R)
Very Rare (VR)
Extremely Rare (ER)
OMG so Rare (OMGSR)

i'm not a fan of the whimsical names at all; i think it's too nebulous/vague, especially in light of those pointing out that this site is geared towards a younger audience who may not understand the words. i understand wanting to have unique shorthand versions for rarities, but i think there's a way to make those work while still sticking to the relatively straightforward naming conventions of our current system (which is why i provided examples of them in my list above). i feel that occam's razor applies here: the simplest option is almost always the best!

I like this name proposal the best, I like how both ends of the rarity scale have their own distinct names and how each tier (common, uncommon, rare) all have 3 levels.

This is definitely the best naming proposal, I love it



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Re: We need your feedback on an update to the rarity system!

Postby everestwhite » Sun Aug 20, 2023 10:55 am

Wookieinmashoo wrote:I just never cared for OMG not because of whatever it stood for, but because it sounds incredibly dated. We already abbreviate rarities to save space so having OMGSR (and OMGSC) is just two abbreviations rammed together.


i dont want to keep the discussion of this going for too much as its not that relevant to the topic overall, but i wanted to add my two cents on this. as someone who is a big appreciator of internet nostalgia, i like that its dated. cs as a whole is kind of dated in a good way to me, and its part of why i still hang around. as others have said its a naming scheme that is unique to cs, and this place is synonymous with the sparkledog era of the internet to me and the usage of "OMG" fits very well for that.

id actually be really sad if they changed it ;_;

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Re: We need your feedback on an update to the rarity system!

Postby Daxx » Sun Aug 20, 2023 11:11 am

rengoku. wrote:[center][size=90]after reviewing lacuna's very helpful post, this would be a rarity line i could get behind and see working very well.

OMG so Common (OMGSC)
Extremely Common (EC)
Very Common (VC)
Common (C)
Uncommon (UC)
Very Uncommon (VUC)
Extremely Uncommon (EUC)
Rare (R)
Very Rare (VR)
Extremely Rare (ER)
OMG so Rare (OMGSR)


This version of the rarities seems to look close enough to how the rarity system already does, and I think it's the happy medium of the other things ive seem suggested. Not everyone is going to be happy with the new changes, but this seems like it might get the least amount of complaints, and I think it vibes really well as a system. Hopefully there's a final consensus or another vote tho, so that everyone gets a chance to choose!

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Re: We need your feedback on an update to the rarity system!

Postby ShadowKatto » Sun Aug 20, 2023 11:40 am

everestwhite wrote:
Wookieinmashoo wrote:I just never cared for OMG not because of whatever it stood for, but because it sounds incredibly dated. We already abbreviate rarities to save space so having OMGSR (and OMGSC) is just two abbreviations rammed together.


i dont want to keep the discussion of this going for too much as its not that relevant to the topic overall, but i wanted to add my two cents on this. as someone who is a big appreciator of internet nostalgia, i like that its dated. cs as a whole is kind of dated in a good way to me, and its part of why i still hang around. as others have said its a naming scheme that is unique to cs, and this place is synonymous with the sparkledog era of the internet to me and the usage of "OMG" fits very well for that.

id actually be really sad if they changed it ;_;

I agree. As an enjoyer of everything from the 2000s and someone who hates change, I’d probably quit if they changed it.

I’m not religious anymore, but most of my family is, and they’re fine with saying OMG and stuff like that. I highly doubt that they’re going to change the OMG Rarities just because a few people think it’s offensive. Offensive towards who???
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Re: We need your feedback on an update to the rarity system!

Postby Heda Vampiric » Sun Aug 20, 2023 12:32 pm

Dunno how I feel about quoting someone and changing their words without mentioning you (general) did so in the post- but digress-

I’m not religious but I assume its religious people being upset it “takes the lords name in vain” by saying “oh my god” (while it could also be gosh, or goodness, the most common use of OMG in the English language from what I’ve gathered as a whole is oh my god). Again, I’m not religious; that’s, as they say, “not my circus not my monkeys”.

Personally, it’s not going to be any peanuts from my bowl if they change it or not even if I don’t like the word (I agree on it sounding super dated. It’s always made me wince). I do agree with us moving away from using “super” though - glad we all seem to agree there.

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Re: We need your feedback on an update to the rarity system!

Postby ShadowKatto » Sun Aug 20, 2023 12:45 pm

Heda Vampiric wrote:Dunno how I feel about quoting someone and changing their words without mentioning you (general) did so in the post- but digress-

I’m not religious but I assume its religious people being upset it “takes the lords name in vain” by saying “oh my god” (while it could also be gosh, or goodness, the most common use of OMG in the English language from what I’ve gathered as a whole is oh my god). Again, I’m not religious; that’s, as they say, “not my circus not my monkeys”.

Personally, it’s not going to be any peanuts from my bowl if they change it or not even if I don’t like the word (I agree on it sounding super dated. It’s always made me wince). I do agree with us moving away from using “super” though - glad we all seem to agree there.

The word “super” doesn’t really sound that bad to me, though. However, there are definitely some better alternatives.
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