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Which path should we take to improve the pet rarity system?

Poll ended at Mon Aug 21, 2023 11:06 pm

Keep the current categories, but spread pets out more across the categories we have
1120
22%
Add a new "very uncommon" rarity category
804
16%
Add four new rarity categories
3144
62%
 
Total votes : 5068

Re: We need your feedback on an update to the rarity system!

Postby babypunkrat » Fri Aug 18, 2023 12:03 am

Arlecchino ♡ wrote:
Arlecchino ♡ wrote:Adding more rarities is likely to cause people (myself included) to quit, as someone who is autistic, it's already had to keep track of the ones that exist.


I'd like to expand on my reasoning here since people decided to instantly shoot it down.

I struggle with numbers and seeing the mass amount of groups makes things all blur together. I already have to shove everything common and under into one group so I don't get lost in my own sorting system.

People already trade as if the lower two rarities aren't different than a common, the addition of more tags just feels like it is appealing to people too into the stats of it all, when they could just like. IDK, show the stats?

It feels like people debate demand more than anything, why wouldn't you just add a tag saying "this typically goes for more/less than the listed value?"


fellow neurodivergent here, i also hate the idea of sorting four new rarities! it would be so overwhelming for me and i'd probably start trading less too. seems like this was a bad time for me to return to the site </3 i'm really hoping they'll listen to all of us, not just the people who are in favor of the new rarities. i'd be fine with one or two new ones, but four is definitely pushing it.
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Re: We need your feedback on an update to the rarity system!

Postby Wookieinmashoo » Fri Aug 18, 2023 12:06 am

Concept wrote:Ah one thing I noticed was that a lot of people seem to be chatting about not knowing what the rarities are based off from! I found a thread that has that information that I remembered coming across a few months back:

Forum/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=784157

it might be able to help people understand where the rarities are coming from here since it does give some basic statistics on numbers (a bit out of date, but still) for people to look at! I'm not an authority on any of this information so I can't perfectly verify anything in this thread, so please, as always, do your own research too!


yes, I've been going by the comparison Nick posted, but it's really not that well known so I get weird looks when I value 4-5 uncommons per rare. We've had a rarity shuffle since then so the comparison doesn't really help anymore. if we get more rarities, it will help even less. Again, the rarities won't matter unless we actually know what they mean. At least for lower level trading. higher level trading we just have the rarity change dates.

I'd also like to see the poll have a "none" option as well as the ability to change your vote.
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Re: We need your feedback on an update to the rarity system!

Postby piepinkpony » Fri Aug 18, 2023 12:39 am

Blaubär wrote:By now I just wish we knew, when the bandaid's acutally going to get ripped off. It's entirely my own fault for coming back here to read suggestions and feedback - I kinda can't stay away from it rn, cause it's somehow important to me. ^^ But then, I'm starting to feel really anxious about things. It's like CS is usually this little cozy place on the internet, but rn now it's making me feel uncomfortable in the stomach. Maybe I should just stay away till the update is through. xD
Any chance we can get a rough estimate of the timetable?


This is just a geuss.
The poll ends 21st August so nothing till then at minimum. And then this is only ideas, they have to sort final names, graphics, coding, etc. I'd rather it was sooner as opposed to later but especially with two big events coming up (Halloween, Christmas) I feel like it won't be till next year. I do know we will get plenty of warning though, it won't happen suddenly without us knowing.
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Re: We need your feedback on an update to the rarity system!

Postby Metax » Fri Aug 18, 2023 12:44 am

babypunkrat wrote:
Arlecchino ♡ wrote:
Arlecchino ♡ wrote:Adding more rarities is likely to cause people (myself included) to quit, as someone who is autistic, it's already had to keep track of the ones that exist.


I'd like to expand on my reasoning here since people decided to instantly shoot it down.

I struggle with numbers and seeing the mass amount of groups makes things all blur together. I already have to shove everything common and under into one group so I don't get lost in my own sorting system.

People already trade as if the lower two rarities aren't different than a common, the addition of more tags just feels like it is appealing to people too into the stats of it all, when they could just like. IDK, show the stats?

It feels like people debate demand more than anything, why wouldn't you just add a tag saying "this typically goes for more/less than the listed value?"


fellow neurodivergent here, i also hate the idea of sorting four new rarities! it would be so overwhelming for me and i'd probably start trading less too. seems like this was a bad time for me to return to the site </3 i'm really hoping they'll listen to all of us, not just the people who are in favor of the new rarities. i'd be fine with one or two new ones, but four is definitely pushing it.

There's a chrome extension that can automatically select all pets of any chosen rarity in a group. I'm on mobile so I can't link it right now but if anyone has it handy... It might help you out!
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Re: We need your feedback on an update to the rarity system!

Postby Froggieee » Fri Aug 18, 2023 12:55 am

piepinkpony wrote:
But it seems to be so ingrained in many players (beyond rarity math for different years or how many uncommon are worth a rare) that store pets are just worth more than other pets from the same year, even the same month and of the same rarity. This completely confuses me?
For example this is taken from the most recent comment in the "is this a fair trade?" post:
a 2019 store pet is worth an 09 rare while a 2020 store pet is worth a 10 rare




This confuses me so badly. I feel like if it’s the same rarity in the same year, it should be worth the same? Hopefully the new rarities will help a little.
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Re: We need your feedback on an update to the rarity system!

Postby babypunkrat » Fri Aug 18, 2023 1:41 am

Metax wrote:There's a chrome extension that can automatically select all pets of any chosen rarity in a group. I'm on mobile so I can't link it right now but if anyone has it handy... It might help you out!


i had no idea this existed, thank you for letting me know!! i've spent hours sorting pets in the past so this will definitely be helpful. hopefully someone else will be able to link it for me, but if not i'll start searching for it myself!
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Re: We need your feedback on an update to the rarity system!

Postby Dragon Attack » Fri Aug 18, 2023 1:41 am

Metax wrote:
babypunkrat wrote:
Arlecchino ♡ wrote:
I'd like to expand on my reasoning here since people decided to instantly shoot it down.

I struggle with numbers and seeing the mass amount of groups makes things all blur together. I already have to shove everything common and under into one group so I don't get lost in my own sorting system.

People already trade as if the lower two rarities aren't different than a common, the addition of more tags just feels like it is appealing to people too into the stats of it all, when they could just like. IDK, show the stats?

It feels like people debate demand more than anything, why wouldn't you just add a tag saying "this typically goes for more/less than the listed value?"


fellow neurodivergent here, i also hate the idea of sorting four new rarities! it would be so overwhelming for me and i'd probably start trading less too. seems like this was a bad time for me to return to the site </3 i'm really hoping they'll listen to all of us, not just the people who are in favor of the new rarities. i'd be fine with one or two new ones, but four is definitely pushing it.

There's a chrome extension that can automatically select all pets of any chosen rarity in a group. I'm on mobile so I can't link it right now but if anyone has it handy... It might help you out!


oh?? what's the name? i'll link it for you
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Re: We need your feedback on an update to the rarity system!

Postby Zeroness » Fri Aug 18, 2023 1:44 am

I have 3 suggestions for the colors (made with the thought for them to be easily distinguishable):

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I also love Pyromaniacal's version where the OMGSR's color is rainbow! It makes it truly stand out and feel very special.
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Re: We need your feedback on an update to the rarity system!

Postby Froggieee » Fri Aug 18, 2023 1:52 am

Zeroness wrote:I have 3 suggestions for the colors (made with the thought for them to be easily distinguishable):

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I also love Pyromaniacal's version where the OMGSR's color is rainbow! It makes it truly stand out and feel very special.


I like these! But I have to disagree on the rainbow omgsr, I feel like it’s too much and too different from the other pets
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Re: We need your feedback on an update to the rarity system!

Postby Peppermint Mist » Fri Aug 18, 2023 1:56 am

Metax wrote:There's a chrome extension that can automatically select all pets of any chosen rarity in a group. I'm on mobile so I can't link it right now but if anyone has it handy... It might help you out!

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It’s called ‘Chicken Smoothie Helper’ here’s the link to the thread the creator made if anyone needs it!
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