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Which path should we take to improve the pet rarity system?

Poll ended at Mon Aug 21, 2023 11:06 pm

Keep the current categories, but spread pets out more across the categories we have
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Add a new "very uncommon" rarity category
804
16%
Add four new rarity categories
3144
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Total votes : 5068

Re: We need your feedback on an update to the rarity system!

Postby boogster » Wed Aug 16, 2023 5:47 pm

web_cat wrote:looks like 4 new rarities is winning. gosh that will be hard to adapt to. it's good that there is more flexibility since the UC --> RR --> VR --> OMGSR gap is pretty exponential. but 4 new rarities might make it a little convoluted haha. wish it could be 2-3. either way, i am excited for a new CS era :)


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I was looking at some of the newer posts and agree that I think we only need to add more categories in the uncommon region of the rarity spectrum. Personally, I don't need any more differentiation in the common area since all those pets just fall under the common/easy to acquire category in my mind. Ultimately, I think it would just add unnecessary difficulty for trading with common pets (which should be a pretty easy process). It makes since for the common and very common categories to include a large percentage of CS pets so I would just stick with these groups.
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Re: We need your feedback on an update to the rarity system!

Postby kivr & fireflii » Wed Aug 16, 2023 5:49 pm

kivr & fireflii wrote:As far as naturally flowing words/phrases go for increments, "super" and "super duper" come to mind.

OMG so common
Super duper common
Super common
Common
Uncommon
Super Uncommon
Super duper uncommon
Rare
Super rare
Super duper rare
OMG so rare

To me, that's more clear than trying to think of essentially other synonyms for rare. Like elusive? Prevalent? Legendary? Mega? Ulta? Without context, put together, it's impossible to know what the natural order is. So while cute and unique, I think it would make things more confusing. But I think it's easier to see if something is "super" X, then the "super duper" is like extra emphasis.
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I think this got lost. Hope y'all don't mind I quote myself. Interested in some thoughts? Also, in regards to super and rare, I think if you looked at the two without context, it's not intrinsically obvious which one is "more" than the other, so I think that might cause some confusion.
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Re: We need your feedback on an update to the rarity system!

Postby spideypool » Wed Aug 16, 2023 6:10 pm

4 new rarities had my vote. It’s going to be tricky to get used to but I think it will ultimately be the best option long term. It can be quite difficult to collect rare+ pets, and a lot of folks won’t trade down. I reckon adding more categories will make it easier for new and casual players to trade up because there’s less of a jump from Very Uncommon to Rare than Uncommon to Rare etc.
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Re: We need your feedback on an update to the rarity system!

Postby Luei » Wed Aug 16, 2023 6:59 pm

I vote for first option - just spread out pets across the categories we have.
I think it might be the best option.
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Re: We need your feedback on an update to the rarity system!

Postby Metax » Wed Aug 16, 2023 7:14 pm

kivr & fireflii wrote:
kivr & fireflii wrote:As far as naturally flowing words/phrases go for increments, "super" and "super duper" come to mind.

OMG so common
Super duper common
Super common
Common
Uncommon
Super Uncommon
Super duper uncommon
Rare
Super rare
Super duper rare
OMG so rare

To me, that's more clear than trying to think of essentially other synonyms for rare. Like elusive? Prevalent? Legendary? Mega? Ulta? Without context, put together, it's impossible to know what the natural order is. So while cute and unique, I think it would make things more confusing. But I think it's easier to see if something is "super" X, then the "super duper" is like extra emphasis.
-fireflii


I think this got lost. Hope y'all don't mind I quote myself. Interested in some thoughts? Also, in regards to super and rare, I think if you looked at the two without context, it's not intrinsically obvious which one is "more" than the other, so I think that might cause some confusion.
-fireflii

I like this naming idea! Seems super duper user friendly and easy to memorize. Hehe
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Re: We need your feedback on an update to the rarity system!

Postby Kahvar » Wed Aug 16, 2023 7:26 pm

kivr & fireflii wrote:
kivr & fireflii wrote:As far as naturally flowing words/phrases go for increments, "super" and "super duper" come to mind.

OMG so common
Super duper common
Super common
Common
Uncommon
Super Uncommon
Super duper uncommon
Rare
Super rare
Super duper rare
OMG so rare

To me, that's more clear than trying to think of essentially other synonyms for rare. Like elusive? Prevalent? Legendary? Mega? Ulta? Without context, put together, it's impossible to know what the natural order is. So while cute and unique, I think it would make things more confusing. But I think it's easier to see if something is "super" X, then the "super duper" is like extra emphasis.
-fireflii


I think this got lost. Hope y'all don't mind I quote myself. Interested in some thoughts? Also, in regards to super and rare, I think if you looked at the two without context, it's not intrinsically obvious which one is "more" than the other, so I think that might cause some confusion.
-fireflii

I really like the suggestion to use "Super" instead of "Extremely". I'm not a fan of "Super duper" though. I'd much rather see "Very" continue to be used since it keeps things shorter.
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Re: We need your feedback on an update to the rarity system!

Postby Demonking Urizen » Wed Aug 16, 2023 7:31 pm

Personally I say yes to the four new categories. The system right now is flawed as it is, and the redistribution wouldn't change much I'm afraid. There are so many pets that are a certain rarity, but definitely feel far less/more rare than that. It would also help to make understanding the rarities far easier.

However, I do see the problem that even more people might stop looking at the dates and just try trading by rarity, which clearly would bring an even bigger mess to the system as it already is right now. while trading for the new 2023 rare token pets this is a bad trend I observed: I've been offering uncommons from 2014/2015 for them and people have been turning them down saying it's unfair to them due the fact uncommon =/= rare, which clearly isn't by the fact of the solid 8/9 year gap between the pets.

If we are redistributing and revising, people should be reminded that dates should be necessarily taken into account while trading.
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Re: We need your feedback on an update to the rarity system!

Postby Fellefan » Wed Aug 16, 2023 7:56 pm

ok it took a bit of thinking and playing around with the colours, but I'm back with my thoughts.

here I've done my best to try and make them distinct: blue-green for commons, yellow-orange for uncommon, red-purple for rare, with deep blue/purple for the OMGs.
(I've used super instead of extremely and U for uncommon instead of UC, as I explained in my previous post.)
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the biggest change is orange moving from rare to the uncommon group and very rare becoming magenta, but other than that I've tried my best to keep it as close to current as possible.
however to me it seems there aren't really enough unique colours to make each rarity stand out. yes, you can fill them all, but a lot of the in-betweens are very similar to their neighbours. so while seeing them as a whole works fine, it falls apart when seen individually as many times it can be hard to tell which colour is what.
take this example; is that orange a very uncommon or a super uncommon? what about the green, is that common or very common?
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so in all honestly, the colours would work a lot better and be less blended if we removed the OMG tiers.
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I like these colours a LOT better, it's more clear and each colour is very hard to mistake for another. sure it does change a lot in the rare group, but if we want to keep a rainbow theme this is kind of the way it has to be. either way this spectrum right here has my vote!

but we can't just ignore the OMG tiers, I feel we need them to make trading better so removing them doesn't seem like the best action just for the sake of colours. maybe we can do something else with them, keep the same colour as their neighbour but make them extra special, like making them shiny?
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or making the rare prismatic and the common greyscale. just an example but I honestly feel something like this, with the OMGs being special, would be the best approach.
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Re: We need your feedback on an update to the rarity system!

Postby piepinkpony » Wed Aug 16, 2023 8:01 pm

Lunarsnow wrote:As far as naming goes, if the +4 rarity tiers gets implemented would "super" be less clunky than "extremely"? Not sure if it would instinctively read as higher than "very" though.
  • OMG so common
  • Super common
  • Very common
  • Common
  • Uncommon
  • Very uncommon
  • Super uncommon
  • Rare
  • Very rare
  • Super rare
  • OMG so rare

"Incredibly" is another option but it's a bit long too


I like super this sounds better!
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Re: We need your feedback on an update to the rarity system!

Postby Metax » Wed Aug 16, 2023 8:03 pm

Fellefan wrote:ok it took a bit of thinking and playing around with the colours, but I'm back with my thoughts.

here I've done my best to try and make them distinct: blue-green for commons, yellow-orange for uncommon, red-purple for rare, with deep blue/purple for the OMGs.
(I've used super instead of extremely and U for uncommon instead of UC, as I explained in my previous post.)
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the biggest change is orange moving from rare to the uncommon group and very rare becoming magenta, but other than that I've tried my best to keep it as close to current as possible.
however to me it seems there aren't really enough unique colours to make each rarity stand out. yes, you can fill them all, but a lot of the in-betweens are very similar to their neighbours. so while seeing them as a whole works fine, it falls apart when seen individually as many times it can be hard to tell which colour is what.
take this example; is that orange a very uncommon or a super uncommon? what about the green, is that common or very common?
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so in all honestly, the colours would work a lot better and be less blended if we removed the OMG tiers.
Image
I like these colours a LOT better, it's more clear and each colour is very hard to mistake for another. sure it does change a lot in the rare group, but if we want to keep a rainbow theme this is kind of the way it has to be. either way this spectrum right here has my vote!

but we can't just ignore the OMG tiers, I feel we need them to make trading better so removing them doesn't seem like the best action just for the sake of colours. maybe we can do something else with them, keep the same colour as their neighbour but make them extra special, like making them shiny?
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or making the rare prismatic and the common greyscale. just an example but I honestly feel something like this, with the OMGs being special, would be the best approach.

This is sick! Colors are super distinguishable, love the sheen on OMGSRs. Not sure if OMGSCs should receive the same treatment. Perhaps shiny OMGSR, grayscale OMGSC like you said. Agreed on the naming conventions as well, with super instead of extremely, and UC shortened to U. Will take some time to adjust but it makes much more sense.
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