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Re: The "Is this a fair trade?" Thread

Postby bark » Sat Jun 17, 2023 1:50 pm

Without taking demand/truedates in account (all pets are wishlist and for my collection) does this trade equal up to 1 non? Thanks in advance!
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Re: The "Is this a fair trade?" Thread

Postby ONEUS » Sat Jun 17, 2023 2:01 pm

ONEUS wrote:
Hi! Could I possibly get some opinions on a quantity trade for a 2010 rare?
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Total of 88 pets on their side
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Re: The "Is this a fair trade?" Thread

Postby keayi » Sat Jun 17, 2023 2:18 pm

httpsmads wrote:https://www.chickensmoothie.com/trades/viewtrade.php?id=105299930&userid=718721&signature=Q7e9GuZJ1R17Q6bn40Nk2w

I feel like they're over-trading a bit, but I'm not sure. What pets should I ask them to remove if any? (All of the pets they offered are on my WL and the one pet they want is on their WL btw)

If you want to follow rarity math, pets are worth half a pet of the same rarity the previous year. And 2 C = 1 UC, 2 UC = 1 R, so on... For example:
'23 R = .5 '22 R = 1 '22 UC

Then yes, they are overtrading. The otter is probably worth a couple uncommons at most.

mymelody♡ wrote:Is this fair? If it is does one have better demand?
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Santa Hat Dog = 1 MA
Purple Star Bobtail = 1 MA

For:
2 Store Fairy Rats = 1 MA/ea

I can't really tell you if either side has better demand since it's so subjective. I would choose whichever pets you like best. (Again, my only advice is store pets are well liked and have consistent demand)

bark wrote:Without taking demand/truedates in account (all pets are wishlist and for my collection) does this trade equal up to 1 non? Thanks in advance!
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Spotted Tribal = 0.5 Non
Purple Tess Horse = 0.25 Non
TODODAG Bun = 0.5-.75 MA
Teal Malk Bun = 1 MA
Bongo Bwolf = 0.5-.75 MA
April Foosl Cat = 0.5-.75 MA
Dappled Bat = 0.5 MA
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Total MA = 3-3.75 = ~0.25 N
Total Non = ~1

For:
July PPS = 1

ONEUS wrote:
ONEUS wrote:
Hi! Could I possibly get some opinions on a quantity trade for a 2010 rare?
trades/viewtrade.php?id=105247443&userid=368472&signature=nhYxxAwTzjXYkXStrrMWsw

Total of 88 pets on their side

2:1 Method:
2010 R = 2 '11 R = 4 '12 R = 8 '13 R = 16 '14 R = 32 '15 R = 64 '16 R = 128 '17 R = 256 '18 R = 512 '19 R = 1024 '20 R = 2048 '21 R = 4096 '22 R = 8192 '23 R

+2 Method:
2010 R = 2 '11 R = 4 '12 R = 6 '13 R = 8 '14 R = 10 '15 R = 12 '16 R = 14 '17 R = 16 '18 R = 18 '19 R = 20 '20 R (80 '20 C) = 22 '21 R (88 '21 C) = 24 '22 R (96 '22 C) = 26 '23 R (104 '23 C)

10 '17 VC = 10 '18 C = 20 '19 C = 20 '20 C
5 '19 C (vc incl) = 10 '20 C
5 '20 VC = 2.5 '20 C
19 '20 C
2 '21 VC = 2 '20 C
1 '21 R = 4 '21 C = 2 '20 C
1 '21 UC = 1 '20 C
13 '22 UC = 6.5 '21 UC = 6.5 '20 C
25 '22 C = 12.5 '21 C = 6.25 '20 C
4 '22 UC = 4 '21 C = 2 '20 C
Total = 71.25 '20 C

I think it's slightly under if you just want to use the +2 Method, since it is fairer than demanding thousands of pets.
I did however use the 2:1 ratio to calculate the worth of their side 🤷
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Re: The "Is this a fair trade?" Thread

Postby demus » Sat Jun 17, 2023 2:33 pm

https://www.chickensmoothie.com/trades/viewtrade.php?id=105291631&userid=818443&signature=z41o4TIIi96HVLWoOijABw

so i'm not sure about store pet rarities or what things like ma means, can somebody help me please?
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Re: The "Is this a fair trade?" Thread

Postby nihil » Sat Jun 17, 2023 2:38 pm

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Re: The "Is this a fair trade?" Thread

Postby ~Heizou~ » Sat Jun 17, 2023 2:44 pm

✿˚͟͟͞͞➳Emma˚͟͟͞͞➳✿ wrote:
✿˚͟͟͞͞➳Emma˚͟͟͞͞➳✿ wrote:https://www.chickensmoothie.com/trades/viewtrade.php?id=105293576&userid=957390&signature=Ee-mFetZ3mdiu0jW5eDIjg

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Is this fair?


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Re: The "Is this a fair trade?" Thread

Postby keayi » Sat Jun 17, 2023 2:44 pm

demus wrote:https://www.chickensmoothie.com/trades/viewtrade.php?id=105291631&userid=818443&signature=z41o4TIIi96HVLWoOijABw

so i'm not sure about store pet rarities or what things like ma means, can somebody help me please?

MA's are terms used to calculate high-value pets on CS (usually some of the oldest pets on the site, from 2008-2010). Store pets are worth things like MAs because they're wanted by a lot of users on CS and are heavily in-demand. Here's the rundown, simply put;

1 Non = 10-12 MA
1 MA = 6-9 2009 Rares

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Target dog =2-3 MA

For:
'13 Store Kitsunes = 2 MA

It's fair but it's upto you which pets you like more, and if demand is something you want to consider, the store pets will always have better demand and this only grows as time passes. Usually more-so than pets that are on the "MA" list


'19 Store = '09 R (Unsure if this lion has demand)
'12 PPS Egg

For:
Black Skull Cat = reg. 09 VR = at least 2 '09 R
'12 R Bun

The two '12 rares are a fair swap but I believe you'd be overpaying by at least 1 '09 R with the black skull cat. Idk if the lion has demand, but I haven't seen anything about it so I doubt it's trading for more than 1 '09 R.
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Re: The "Is this a fair trade?" Thread

Postby keayi » Sat Jun 17, 2023 2:56 pm

✿˚͟͟͞͞➳Emma˚͟͟͞͞➳✿ wrote:https://www.chickensmoothie.com/trades/viewtrade.php?id=105293576&userid=957390&signature=Ee-mFetZ3mdiu0jW5eDIjg

trades/viewtrade.php?id=105297771&userid=957390&signature=rtGjhWq8W_btHOsFVg-PZg

trades/viewtrade.php?id=105291050&userid=957390&signature=9RmCJViTFJEQd0YR_tjBfw
Is this fair?

1)
I know the July PPS and the UR Foal are both worth a solid 1 Non so everything else on their side would have been overpay. Only difference is the UR Foal you have is a TD, which might have been why they chose to add.

2)
BEG = 1.5 N

For:
Target Dog = 2-3 MA
'09 R
Pink Sept Cat = reg. '09 VR = 2 '09 R
2 '10 R = 1 '09 R
Dark-Faced PPS = reg. '08 VR = 2-4 '09 R
UR Foal = 1 Non
2 '19 R (fairy foxes = great demand?)
Orange Light Stripe = .5-.75 MA
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Total '09 R = 6-8 '09 R = ~ 1 MA
Total MA = 3.5-4.75 = ~0.25 Non
Total Non = ~1.25 Non

If I added everything right it's slightly under for the BEG. I also skipped the fairy foxes, I know they have good demand to some people but I'm unsure what that would be.

3)
RR Zebras = .75-1 N

RR UR Pickle = .75-1 N

Fair 'nuff.

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Re: The "Is this a fair trade?" Thread

Postby nihil » Sat Jun 17, 2023 4:45 pm

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Re: The "Is this a fair trade?" Thread

Postby keayi » Sat Jun 17, 2023 5:07 pm


Recent store pets can be worth '11 R/ea due to a set amount (being sold for 20 C$/ea and '11 R usually go for 20-25 C$). So it is fair (maybe slightly unfair to them, even, if you do the math) but I'd get a second opinion. The dogs from the Slumber Party event are still pretty popular!
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