June 2023 Discussion Thread

[Audrey_Bee]

ugh are we really gonna argue over the amount of flags each orientation got? x3 just be happy! we almost ALL got representation! no need to go comparing numbers!
im just surprised intersex got TWO mice!!!

Some people are looking far too deeply into it, looking past just how much representation everyone got, I'm sure the artists are proud of what they've done and they should be!

[Thrashz]

Love the inclusion of both intersex flags for the mice! I usually only see the one designed by the IHRA (intersex Australia) so it was cool to see the one designed by Natalie Phox!

[LilMissFerret]

Somehow I was late to the party. I checked the outcomes last night and didn’t see that there were two puppies that grew. Even though I got 2 of one and 1 of the other lol

I wonder how many outcomes are still to come? Both of those were pretty decent sized litters.

[Linsang]

I love the new grown chicken outcome, too! I think it's very possible that it's based on the aroace flag, since the colours are right.

[Caelus]

these pan puppies are gonna be cuuuute


and just saw that another monochromatic one grew!

[Linsang]

these pan puppies are gonna be cuuuute


and just saw that another monochromatic one grew!

This pan puppy outcome is unbelievably pretty, I love how the colours kind of blend together ;-; I can't wait to see it grown

[rabbitlover12]

To be fully fair, it WAS 2/2 (3/3 if you consider the sapphic and achillean flags too)? 2 lesbian flag mice vs the blue and green mlm flag bird and the rainbow flag mouse, so the 2 gay pride flags :] I feel like everyone overlooks the poor mousey...

I thought the rainbow flag represented the LGBT as a whole? Unless there's something I'm missing (which is very possible)

I feel the Philly and Progress flags (we got the Philly one in the mouse litter) are more general community flags but tbh just the rainbow flag will always be the OG gay pride flag! There is so much love and history put behind it and it's what most gay men I know irl still use.

Those three are all varieties of community flags. Most of the young gay men I know use the "toothpaste flag", because it's the one specific to us, not just a community flag that everyone uses. It might be what the majority of gay men YOU know use, but I know a lot of lesbians who use the rainbow flag and I would never suggest that makes it the lesbian flag so the other lesbian flag doesn't need to be included.

ugh are we really gonna argue over the amount of flags each orientation got? x3 just be happy! we almost ALL got representation! no need to go comparing numbers!
im just surprised intersex got TWO mice!!!

Some people are looking far too deeply into it, looking past just how much representation everyone got, I'm sure the artists are proud of what they've done and they should be!

Or, and here me out, we are pointing out we didn't get representation, because forgetting the gay male flag or lumping it in under the "community" flag is a common theme in a lot of places. The blue-green gay male flag IS different from the Achillean flag (which is inclusive of all queer men/mascs who love men/mascs) - it's the male equivalent of the lesbian flag vs the Sapphic flag. I've never seen the lesbian flag not included, and there are flags here I've never seen before, which is why it hurts to not see my own flag. I love the pride mice, they're really adorable. That's why I'm disappointed there's no gay male flag, especially when they took the time to make two almost-identical lesbian flags that have no difference in meaning - it's not like they didn't have the resources to make a mouse, they just decided that lesbians would get two mice and gay men wouldn't get one.

I'm really disappointed to see people who HAVE their flags represented, and/or are marveling at less common flags being included being mean or dismissive when those of us who didn't get a flag while a some-what equivalent orientation got two, as did many other queer subgroups. I'm not mad at the artists, I'm just a little hurt because it feels cruddy to feel forgotten and not as important as other people, but I'm more hurt to see how many people are pretty much telling me and others to shut up because we're looking "too deeply" at a problem you just haven't noticed because it doesn't affect you. ESPECIALLY when some of the people being mean and dismissive are people who are marveling at how much representation they got - you know how happy it makes you to see how included you are, why is it wrong that I and others want to feel that same happiness and are sad we don't get to?

[Aaron✦]

While users are welcome to discuss their disappointments and offer suggestions for what they'd like to see next year, arguments are not helping anyone. Please try to have some empathy for each other's point of view during this month. The reason that any particular flag was not included has already been given: our artists simply can't do every flag every year. This discussion is no longer productive, so please do not continue posting about it.

[rabbitlover12]

While users are welcome to discuss their disappointments and offer suggestions for what they'd like to see next year, arguments are not helping anyone. Please try to have some empathy for each other's point of view during this month. The reason that any particular flag was not included has already been given: our artists simply can't do every flag every year. This discussion is no longer productive, so please do not continue posting about it.

They can't do every flag every year, I respect that they have limits both related to time and energy and just the sheer amount of pride flags, but why did they do multiple flags for the same identities, including two almost identical flags with no differing meaning, instead of giving representation to more groups? I'd really like to suggest for next year that the staff/artists consider the impact it has on users to see no representation for themselves while seeing other groups get a lot of representation.

I hope this is ok to say, I wasn't 100% sure what was ok to post or not related to this. I really just want to express that I'm hurt by the lack of representation and confused by the choices made this year that feel like they lead to that exclusion - the artists here is pretty great and I know they wouldn't be intentionally hurtful, but I know I would want to know for the future if people felt certain artistic choices excluded them. If it's not ok, you can delete this, I don't want to keep this fight going but I think this is the most succinct I've been able to explain my hurt

[Vlad Dracula III]

Adopt virtual pets at Chicken Smoothie!

I can’t wait to see what this pup grows into I’m hoping for a rainbow skelly dog that would be amazing but either way I’m loving all the amazing pets we got this month and a fun suggestion for any time perhaps a rainbow skeleton dragon that would be amazing 😻 or even pride dragons of any kind