Remove "Special Release" from counting towards collection

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Re: Remove "Special Release" from counting towards collectio

Postby bark » Thu Feb 09, 2023 6:17 pm

Hollypaws wrote:but special releases are just what they're called- special releases. with pets like the july lioness or the august pps, that's one thing. those pets were put into normal litters, so it only makes sense that in order to have a full collection of 2012 pets, you need those two outcomes from their respective litters even if they're ridiculously harder to get now than they were back then . with urs, most, if not all become OMGSR by the time they have a rarity, and even if they drop to VR the demand will still be incredibly high for most of them. even if a casual player is lucky enough to get one out of the 2-3 URs for say, 2024, they might not be able to get the rest of them unless they really, and i mean REALLY started stockpiling pets from 09-08 for the remaining pets. the ur pumpkin pie from 2021 alone can go for around 2 nons from a cursory search... and that's over 150+ 2009 rares or 12+ mid advents! it's nowhere near reasonable of a goal for children, let alone casual players who don't have the time, money, or understand the quite frankly over-complicated trading economy on the site in order to get a few bonus pets.


    This! ^

    Adding on to support this, text wall incoming! Feel free to correct me if any of this is wrong;

    When Tess started doing special releases, it was obvious she was doing it for a fun addition/possibly SEMI customs/bonus features and not towards collecting. These were released in a SMALL amounts purposely as FUN BONUS PETS; unlike to the OMGSR/VR pets in regular adopts (like Hollypaws said) and not needed towards an actual complete collection.

    Here is some possible evidence that might support this:
    (Again, POSSIBLE! This is up to anyone's interpretation.)



    90% of my UR collection was obtained by C$ or off-site flight rising gems. (This was done before the irl inflation, and I had a stable job. There was nothing I could do irl due to covid lockdowns, so at the time chickensmoothie was a hyper fixation.) I lost track how much I spent, and it's a problem. Like Hollypaws said, spending a HUGE CHUNK of money to complete a game isn't kid friendly. Yes, there IS apps and games that have micro transactions, but they're OPTIONAL and have ways to complete the game without spending.

    It's near impossible to complete a pet collection on here without spending funds. Unlike FR and animal jam, CS main focus is COLLECTING. That's the only main focus of this game.

    Now it's 2023; C$ Prices have gone up on pets, values are going up (A toxic is no longer .25 nons, it jumped to .5 nons), so more money will be spent. What about the kids who want to complete a collection? There's no way they can pay unless they get their parents permission. Even then, parents are more worried about food and bills so it's a 90% chance of a solid no.

    Pay-to-win is not a kid friendly mechanic. A Kid-friendly site/gameplay is WHAT CS is trying to aim for; since the site began. There's no way to obtain URs WITHOUT pitching in funds now days, and it goes against the term: "Free pet collection" CS is a casual game, and all we want is just a checkmark in the free-pet archive without spending $.

      Ok, maybe it's possible to obtain them for free. If any of these apply:

      - SUPER lucky on the 18th, but the catch is you still have 1-2 OTHER new URS that's been also released you have to try and get.

      - Began playing in 2008-2011; but even THEN you need to save UP so much fodder by playing constantly/being a hardcore collector.

      - Get gifted these pets or win a giveaway, but have a 300+ : 1 odds of winning.

      - Have SO much trade fodder, but even then it's difficult to find others who are willing to do trade-downs or trade pets in bulk.

      - Win art contests, BUT you have to develop your art skill (which takes years of practice) and be able to draw digitally. Artists with lower skill levels/only do traditional art have almost a 0% chance of winning.


    The only realistic way to obtain them is money. People with newer accounts come to play with the aim of collecting, but getting too frustrated and quitting within a few months.

    I get people who have a complete collection to make it hard to obtain, but it SHOULDN'T be near impossible? Collecting pets without UR's is just as difficult as collecting URs. A complete free pet collection should be without UR's due to CS's current economy state.

    CS has changed since it started, so I feel that it's time to update their game/complete collection rules due to less and less people coming on adopting. I really want CS to stay up long as it can, but CS needs to readjust things if they wish to keep their userbase.

    That's just my view, I fully support this suggestion! Sorry if any of this comes off rude, it's not my intention! I'm just sharing what I've observed throughout my time here. <3
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Re: Remove "Special Release" from counting towards collectio

Postby beemo » Fri Feb 10, 2023 8:41 am

i think a toggle would be great. as someone with a decent amount of ur pets, i still agree with this. i don’t think making them not part of the collection makes them any less valuable.
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Re: Remove "Special Release" from counting towards collectio

Postby huskyhiccups » Sat Feb 11, 2023 5:28 am

    I love all of the posts you linked, Bark! I think they bring a great point to this thread. Thank you for that ^.^
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Re: Remove "Special Release" from counting towards collectio

Postby bark » Sat Feb 11, 2023 3:10 pm

huskyhiccups wrote:
    I love all of the posts you linked, Bark! I think they bring a great point to this thread. Thank you for that ^.^


You're welcome! Tbh I was anxious when posting it. I kept double checking my textwall of a post constantly, hoping I'm making sense. I was heavily sleep deprived while making it and digging for evidence 😂
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Re: Remove "Special Release" from counting towards collectio

Postby LostInTheEcho » Sat Feb 25, 2023 5:26 pm

There is only one reason I’d want the URs removed from counting for a full collection, and that is to be able to see if I have all (actually obtainable) pets of a year.

I have all pets between 2015-2021, but to see that I have to click each year separately to see that, ”yes, it’s only the URs missing”. It’s inconvenient, nothing else. If not removing them all together just make a different coloured marking that means ’have all pets in a year except URs’ and then I’d be happy.



As for those asking what the difference is between URs and regular omgsr pets: the difference is that they are comparably worth about the same as other pets of that year. Current URs are vastly more valuable than all other pets of the same year.
Even if I tried to trade a full 2022 collection for one 2022 UR I’d not be able to, I wouldn’t even be close.

Also, why should it be as hard to finish a 2022 collection as a collection from over 10 years ago? If you play consistently, participate in events, and do trades and swaps for one year you should be able to achieve a full collection for that year and not to be thrown an artificial and impossible (with your year of play) to surmount obstacle in the form of two or more URs
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Re: Remove "Special Release" from counting towards collectio

Postby liiontai » Sun Feb 26, 2023 1:21 pm

if this was ever implemented i agree a toggle would be the best option. as someone who's going for a full collection and wants to include the special releases in that goal, it would be super inconvenient for them not to show up when checking what years ive completed. i think the toggle should extend to the store pets as well, as they already dont show up and thats inconvenient for checking as is.
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Re: Remove "Special Release" from counting towards collectio

Postby bark » Sat Mar 11, 2023 12:12 am

Bumping this up to the first page <3 (If that's allowed!)
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Re: Remove "Special Release" from counting towards collectio

Postby huskyhiccups » Wed Apr 19, 2023 11:52 pm

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Re: Remove "Special Release" from counting towards collectio

Postby Audrey_Bee » Sat Apr 29, 2023 9:11 am

Yes! I completed my 2018 collection, first one ever! Locked away the group, super proud but looked at the archive and saw...no completion message! Ofc I don't own all the special releases!! Lol I think if the store pets don't get included neither should the special releases!
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Re: Remove "Special Release" from counting towards collectio

Postby huskyhiccups » Wed May 17, 2023 4:19 pm

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