[urgent] this site really is actually dying

[DisneyLuv]

I've never been able to successfully trade people, other than monthly swaps. I've tried, and either get ghosted or canceled. Or no interest from the other end. I've tried auctioning off a couple rares before just to see how it goes...no luck, literally not a single trade trying. I'm done trying. I would love to complete my collection. But I really hesitate in trying to do anything other than monthly swaps and see how it goes I guess.i also have never been able to successfully get trade from others especially without getting rude people or my trades rotting, ive given up on bumping my trade/c$store and i never send trades bc most people demand so much for things

monthly swaps are easy somewhat [right now im not finding success at all in getting a swap done for the pps pup, its just ignored]
Then for any other trade, usually its the luck of the wishlisted pets thats how i find i get stuff even then though i dont have a lot of available WL pets for anyone since most were from my own wishlist and in NFT folders.

You make an excellent point that I had forgotten about. Trades rotting. I’m sorry, I know other users are busy, but if they are online, what is the point of letting a trade sit for days? I just don’t understand that. If they are bumping their trading thread once every half an hour, then they should be able to respond to a trade. I find it very rude. I ALWAYS respond to trades promptly, because I hate keeping others waiting no matter the outcome.

[halcyoncreature]

I think how quick people are replying says more about how frustrated with the site they are though

This. We, as an audience, love this site and would love to see some BIG improvements

sometimes discussing about improvements is healthy as even some ideas can come to fruition and make it THAT much better for all involved

Yeah! A lot of times during discussion (not about cs, just other groups ive been in through life) everyone in the group will end up doing nothing but stewing in negative emotions and venting eachother. That's usually healthy and fine, but i'm more excited to see how much people are already coming up with doing.

I mean, this thread hasn't been up very long and we've already come up with plenty of plausible ideas. from encouraging users to be more supportive of eachother to more minigames and even daily logins (i really liked the idea of a specific currency for daily logins, and items that can be bought with it), having to do 'quests' to adopt pets in the pound and all other incredible ideas.

I also think it'd be fun to have more discussion on what individual players/smaller groups could do to help. Clubs dedicated to teaching new players how to play, brainstorming on forum games we could make that are more interactive, ect. It takes a lot more upkeep but things like the gachapon adoption centre that pops up once in a while, or making a choice based mini-game via the forums.

[barbwirebrat]

i see this conversation/discussion pop up often with CS. honestly there’s nothing we can do to revive the site and i don’t think staff will do much to change it. CS is a product of its time and the fact that hardly any major elements of the site changed in 14 years, just proves it’s not going to evolve. it feels like the site is a time capsule. which can be a good or bad thing depending on the way you look at it. but this has definitely stumped its growth

this is exactly what i was saying :( it’s nice to see the community (albeit a small fraction of it) come together and brainstorm ways to potentially rekindle what the site used to be, but the reality is that most of this will either fall on deaf ears or simply won’t be considered because this website is just so old and it’s likely the staff/tess just doesn’t see any point in making any changes.

edit: i also don’t even know how active tess is on this site anymore? i don’t even think it’s her that does the monthly updates, so the odds of anything major being changed or implemented is slim to none.

[Riley]

So here's my take as someone who's been around for an absurdly long time, gone for forever and a day, and recently come back.

1:: Yes. The forum is quieter. However, I don't necessarily think that in and of itself is the point that makes the argument of 'dead site'. Forums as a whole are much less popular than they were back in the day and as others have discussed, I do believe in the notion that things have moved to Discord and other platforms.

2:: What does mark this starting to go down hill is sheer user count. Back when I was originally playing, the online list was massive. I wouldn't go to the trading forums to trade. I'd head down to the online user list, select someone at random, and boom, new trading partner. Rinse and repeat. Hardly got the same person twice in one night during normal peak hours. Now? Not so much.

3:: Nothing has changed. And I mean that pretty literally. Mechanically, not a darn thing has changed around here and that is both a blessing and a curse. I was able to walk in after 8 years of being away, and nothing aside from learning new worths and a few new user made acronyms was different. After 14 years... that's bound to breed stagnation.

This all goes with one thing in mind.

Adoptable sites are not nearly as popular as they once were, and that's something to keep in mind. Other places like MagiStream, GPX, Lioden, etc etc are also facing downward turns in userbase. What makes things different is those that evolve with time and take these issues seriously.

[Bunnybee]

i never really thought i was being targeted or was the only one people were being rude to but i never thought it was on this big of a scale, this community needs to be rebuilt or strengthened.

[Osskiar]

I've never been able to successfully trade people, other than monthly swaps. I've tried, and either get ghosted or canceled. Or no interest from the other end. I've tried auctioning off a couple rares before just to see how it goes...no luck, literally not a single trade trying. I'm done trying. I would love to complete my collection. But I really hesitate in trying to do anything other than monthly swaps and see how it goes I guess.i also have never been able to successfully get trade from others especially without getting rude people or my trades rotting, ive given up on bumping my trade/c$store and i never send trades bc most people demand so much for things

monthly swaps are easy somewhat [right now im not finding success at all in getting a swap done for the pps pup, its just ignored]
Then for any other trade, usually its the luck of the wishlisted pets thats how i find i get stuff even then though i dont have a lot of available WL pets for anyone since most were from my own wishlist and in NFT folders.

You make an excellent point that I had forgotten about. Trades rotting. I’m sorry, I know other users are busy, but if they are online, what is the point of letting a trade sit for days? I just don’t understand that. If they are bumping their trading thread once every half an hour, then they should be able to respond to a trade. I find it very rude. I ALWAYS respond to trades promptly, because I hate keeping others waiting no matter the outcome.

I'll be honest, I do this sometimes ^^; I'll look at a trade and maybe want to think about it or have to do something else and then forget about it. A seperate trades pending notification next to the trades link or something would be a big help, especially when people aren't comfortable reminding me (which I get)

[darkrune37]

I mean, I just started replaying after 2-3 years of inactivity, and honestly the general scene on here now feels so much more distant and generally unfriendly. I think trading is one of the biggest problems, since with every year older pets become more and more valuable and almost impossibly out of reach of newer players. And because of that huge gap nobody is willing at all anymore to trade down rares or even uncommons because they need to have them if they want at all to be able to grasp older more valuable pets. it feels so much more hostile now, nobody is willing to share because sharing now is so counter to being able to obtain anything of value.
And even I've started falling into the same mindset, it's so difficult to even know what to do with my older pets because some part of me is unwilling to give them up for newer 'less valuable' pets because it feels like im loosing out on other opportunities.

[DisneyLuv]

(i am not quitting I am just a little sad with the encounters i have had the past year) I am one of the people to think about quitting due to being too scared to trade people on here people are so rude and entitled to what they know about rares and the game and how dumb and "unfair" the trade is when I send a message along the lines of "hi I am looking to trade if you're not happy with this feel free to edit ^^ " and I get people not leave a message and just canceling when its say some like "don't be afraid to send a trade if you want anying <3 I am so nice. something about always leaving a nice message" to low key calling me dumb because I don't really understand list and item worth. and also, people scamming me of lists and all that
so idk I love this game but people man... why are they so much meaner now (sorry about the bad grammar and spelling ;-; i am dyslexic)

I wish I knew why people feel the need to treat others that way. And over a game, with pixelated pets. I don’t mind a simple ‘no thank you’ or ‘I prefer my pet.’ I do understand those remarks. But canceling with no message, or cancelling with a rude remark should be considered bullying, which would be against site rules. I’m not sure why it’s still happening so often, especially to new players.

I’d like to make it known to all that you can trade me any time and I will always respond politely and with kindness, whether I accept the trade or not. Kindness goes a long way, and there are people on here that are unable to handle that sort of behavior. I don’t know, would it kill to be a little more empathetic?

[Addy_sloth]

This makes me really sad. I just joined this site, and just thought it was a relatively small site to begin with. I think the staff could reward ppl with a referral system (like a few c$ for both ppl) or something that might help a little. Otherwise, this also means rarities are going up. Is this a good or bad thing?

[DisneyLuv]

i never really thought i was being targeted or was the only one people were being rude to but i never thought it was on this big of a scale, this community needs to be rebuilt or strengthened.

Agreed, the bullying needs to be addressed. I also didn’t realize how many people it’s affecting, and it could be a lot of the reason why people are leaving the site or giving up on their collections.