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Re: A New Hope ☀ Discussion Thread ☀ Not Accepting

Postby stormythecloud » Tue Dec 21, 2021 7:10 pm

    I can't sleep so I'm working on updated cats and I believe I'm just not using Mudshadow, I just am not attached to him but who knows I may switch my mind so I do have updated info character sheet sort of done for him. I may dump Redflame possibly too or really all my Eagleclan cats actually and just make relatives of them.

    The one I have trouble with is Mistflower but I also really love her as a character but she'd just be sad and potentially alone and Mistflower would be miserable without Deertail around and would just hate Eveningfall. And though she would have her friends Quiverheart and Littleflower still there she'd always feel the third wheel with their own families and felt that way even when Deertail was around. I may send her back to Oakclan but I'm not sure since I know Blizzardstar would only allow it because it is his kin returning home which he wanted moons ago but at the same time she wouldn't be happy there either. All she is searching for in her age (88; 7 yrs 4 m) is the possibility of love still and a family. There's not much in the cards with her at this age.

    I don't know I guess I just need some input.
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Re: A New Hope ☀ Discussion Thread ☀ Not Accepting

Postby Animals65 » Wed Dec 22, 2021 5:33 am

Okay now I have finally caught up with all the posts that I didn't read yesterday!

@Cradily I'm glad you agree with me about Sunflare and Creamflower having 4 kits in their second litter! Though I'm not sure if they would have a third litter sometime later unless you want them to have had a third litter?
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Re: A New Hope ☀ Discussion Thread ☀ Not Accepting

Postby Cradily » Wed Dec 22, 2021 6:45 am

@CJ, that sounds good to me! So their kits would be about 20 moons by now I believe. Also, imagining Elm and River as this cute little elderly couple is just the cutest thing to me. I love them.

@Animals, Yep, karma will always come back to get you! I think that second litter of theirs will probably be enough, just because there's already going to be a lot of new characters that are the kits of the old ones.

@Tainted, Glad to see that Goldenrose doesn't have any hard feelings towards Darkclaw! If she didn't take his rejection too harshly I imagine they could still be good friends then and enjoy each other's company, although I think he'll still always keep a safe distance just because that's part of who he is. As for Nightwish, it may have taken her a while to trust Daydream again but I think if he made it clear that she was truly the one he wanted, she would eventually open up again. Heck, she may still be struggling to considering Foxcloud only passed around 11 moons ago, and maybe at this point she'll think Daydream only wants her because Fox is gone. We'll have to see, but I'm sure they can work it out.

@Stormy, Riverstripe would love if Weaselstripe mentored one of his kits c: And I'm sure Weasel would make a great uncle sort of figure. We'll have to see how many people (if anyone) wants to play one of these offspring characters, as I don't really want them to be just random NPCs, but I know everyone already has a lot of characters as it is >.< I may have to part with some of mine.

Dust and Falcon becoming mates around 32 moons sounds good to me. I can see them as the type to settle down a little later in life. Maybe they had kits around 35 moons?

Loool I bet Foxcloud was very surprised and never completely approved of Evening's relationship with Deer, but hey, at least she tries to be a supportive mother. I think their relationship would have been sort of controversial/looked down upon by cats in general, but hopefully after a while others learned to accept them.

Poor Mistflower probably feels like every cat she likes gets "stolen" from her so-to-speak. I wonder how that would've affected her relationship with Deertail? Since they were good friends and she cared about him a lot, but is unhappy when he finally becomes happy. Or maybe she's happy for him during the time he's alive, but still always hates Eveningfall, and that hatred just comes out more after Deer's death. It would be a difficult situation for anyone. Littleflower would be really sad if Mistflower left, and would've tried her best to convince her to stay. As much tension as there would be between Mist and Tiger if they were in the same clan again, and as much as they dislike each other, I have to say I think they're kind of in similar boats here. Both of them would feel like they didn't belong in either clan, albeit for different reasons. The only way Tiger would join EagleClan would be if Streamspot agreed to make him deputy, but if not he'd feel like everything he did was for nothing, since that was his last shot at attaining a position of power where he'd be respected (he'd never kill someone for it) and probably feels like there's no place for him anywhere anymore. It would be interesting if he and Mist ended up in the same clan, or if they both switched back to their respective birth clans...Idk. I'm not entirely sure what to do with Tigerblaze tbh, I love him but like with you and Mistflower, I'm not sure he would really be happy anywhere or belong anywhere.

Stagleap's first litter of kits would, unfortunately, also be revealed to be Southstar's biological kits by Thunder at the gathering. I don't think she would've been as looked down upon though because like you said she had Messfur to help her and they pretty much lived as a normal family despite everything. With other cats like Foxcloud, there was a lot more...suspicion surrounding her pregnancy to begin with so she would probably be the one cats looked to the most.
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Re: A New Hope ☀ Discussion Thread ☀ Not Accepting

Postby Queen of flames » Wed Dec 22, 2021 6:59 am

So I guess Oatleaf's kits could start to figure about their biological father as well when the Southstar's little secret is being revealed? I mean Oatleaf never told anything about their possible father...

seriously you could do one large list for all Southstar's kits as it almost the whole clan soon xDD
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Re: A New Hope ☀ Discussion Thread ☀ Not Accepting

Postby Tainted~Wings » Wed Dec 22, 2021 7:14 am

@Cradily
Goldenrose is just one who feels like the black sheep of the clan mostly because of her brother but not as much since the whole southstar thing. About how old would you say their kits would be at this point. As for daydream I totally see that as he was close to fox and I think stormy and I had talked about fox knowing and keeping their secret so daydream would definitely had been close and I believe he’d eventually tell nightwish that fox was always a close friend and knew about his feelings for nightwish

Oof now I gotta think about goldenroses kits
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Re: A New Hope ☀ Discussion Thread ☀ Not Accepting

Postby Animals65 » Wed Dec 22, 2021 7:55 am

@Cradily I guess 2 litters is perfect then! I guess that's fair considering the large number of new characters incoming! LOL!
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Re: A New Hope ☀ Discussion Thread ☀ Not Accepting

Postby Cradily » Wed Dec 22, 2021 8:17 am

@Queen, Yep, when it's revealed at a gathering, their names would be revealed too. Southstar would have confessed to Tigerblaze every single cat in both clans who was his after Tiger manipulated him, and Tiger would've then told Thunder to reveal them all. Poor kid probably would've had to rehearse it just to memorize all of his half-siblings lol.

@Tainted, I'm thinking South would've had Golden's kits around the same time he had Oat's, maybe a moon later, so we could say 44 moons old if that sounds good to you?

@Animals, you bet, there sure are a lot of kits holy cow lol

Speaking of kits, I doubt every kit will be taken since we all have so many characters already, but if anyone is interested here are some couples who need their (now grown-up) kits taken:

Southstar and Oatleaf: 2 left (2 claimed by Queen of flames), 45 moons

Southstar and Goldenrose: unspecified number, 44 moons

Sunflare and Creamflower: 4 left I believe, unless you wanted to play one @Animals? 47 moons

Riverstripe and Elmshade: unspecified number, around 20 moons if that's cool with you @CJ

Falconwing and Dustpetal: unspecified number, thinking their kits would be about 16 moons old now if that's okay with you @Stormy

I still need to discuss with Cas if, when, and how many kits our couples had (EveningXDeer, LittleXSwift, DarkXQuiver, SplashXJackdaw) but they'll most likely have had some as well. Also need to discuss with Pawprints if she wanted Streamspot and Southstar to have ever had kits.

So if any of you guys want to make entirely new characters and didn't plan for them to be anyone in particular's descendants, it would be much appreciated if you could make them kits of any of the above! :> There's a looot of kits that need to be taken, and those are only the couples that involve my characters.
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Re: A New Hope ☀ Discussion Thread ☀ Not Accepting

Postby CJClaire » Wed Dec 22, 2021 8:23 am

@stormy, yes! I think Elmshade would be thrilled to have Weaselstripe be close to her kits. She certainly understands how close the relationship between former mentor and apprentices can be. :)

@cradily, right?! They're adorable. :3 20 moons sounds great, I'd be up for playing one of their kits for sure! and yeah, whoever what is interested because I agree, I wouldn't want just random NPCs.

And if it comes out that Stagleap's first litter was from Southstar I feel like that certainly adds to Smokethorn's general angry/hostility.

we might need to make a family tree for these clans though at this point lol

I'll take a look at what kits there will be (especially for eagleclan) and make some characters up after I finish work tonight.
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Re: A New Hope ☀ Discussion Thread ☀ Not Accepting

Postby Tainted~Wings » Wed Dec 22, 2021 9:18 am

I’ll play at least one if not 2 of goldens kits I’m thinking 2 or 3 for goldens litter

I may have a loner to add into the mix so it opens up the gene pool a little she’d probably join eagle clan later on
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Re: A New Hope ☀ Discussion Thread ☀ Not Accepting

Postby stormythecloud » Wed Dec 22, 2021 9:23 am

    @cradily; awe yeah I'm sure he'd be a cute uncle figure to them! Loving them when they were kits instantly and playing with them as much as he could as they grew older. Still being that way sort of with them as they moved to be apprentices but having to be sometimes serious too, especially to the one kit if he had mentored one of them.

    Yeah I was thinking DustXFalcon's kits would be maybe 14-16 so that works so Stormwhisker would of met them barely before he died. He completely leaned on Dust during that time, spending a lot of time with her and the kits in the nursery. Maybe now even are about to have another litter now or ones that are 6 moons just apprenticed? If they do I may take one of those and be a she-cat since I don't have any in Oakclan still

    Oh gosh yeah Fox would be completely surprised and just unsure even after giving Evening her somewhat blessing. The "I am not happy about this but I know I want you happy" blessing lol.

    And no kidding, everyone just gets stolen from Mistflower; Deertail twice then Swift. I think her and Deertail would be friends still but she may have distanced herself from Evening because of her feelings still always kinda being there. I'm sure Littleflower would talk her into staying honestly because she's her other best friend and she'd love to at least enjoy her friend's litter since she never got the chance to have her own. And far as her and Tiger go, yeah I feel that for sure. Just unhappy but she's trying to be happy for her friends around her still. Part of me wants them to be miserable together even though they dislike each other and they have kits together so they both feel a little belonged but I don't believe Tiger never wanted a family?

    And ah poor Stagleap and her first litter, they probably weren't happy at all!

    @CJ; yeah I'm sure she does, I can only imagine Elm's grief when Stormwhisker passed before her.

    Yeah I don't blame Smokethorn to be more angry/hostil from learning they were lied to for all their life prior to it coming out. Probably made things confusing when then Messfur and Stagleap had another litter.


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    Falconwing x Dustpetal; 2 kits; around 16 moons, Possible second litter that's 6 moons

    Need to discuss with @Cas if/when our couple Weaselstripe x Dappleleaf had any, I think it's probably a no for Blizzardclaw x Beestar but do you think they would want one together anyway despite them both having a litter each prior to them being together? I'm sure it would of crossed Blizzard's mind but also would be fine without it. But Weaselstripe wants to have kits and part of me thinks if she decided she didn't want any he would be heartbroken and be questioning things as all his friends have kits
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