Silver Fox Acres - Suggestions & Discussions

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Silver Fox Acres - Suggestions & Discussions

Postby Inkiing » Wed Oct 06, 2021 1:08 am

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Coat Color Suggestion Form
looking to see a certain coat color, marking combo, or pattern? request it here!


Breed Standard Color Guide:
-all shades of bay
-all shades of chestnut
-all shades of black
-all shades of brown
-all pinto patterns
-all duns
-all cream and double creams
-silver & flaxen
-solid colors
-grey
-rabicano

Specialty Number Color Guide:
-chimera/mosaic
-bleach
-tetrarch
-flash
-calico
-shaped markings

Prohibited Color Guide:
-appaloosa
-fantasy coat colors
-eyes in any other color than blue or brown
-mushroom
-pearl
-brindle
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Re: Silver Fox Acres - Coat Color Discussions

Postby Inkiing » Wed Oct 06, 2021 3:55 am

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Understanding SFA Breed Standard Colors
a picture guide to the world of equine coat colors



The Bases
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Black: solid black body
Bay: brown body with black points
Chestnut: solid red body
Brown: muddy brown body with some lighter points

Cream
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Smoky Black: black + cream
Buckskin: bay + cream
Palomino: chestnut + cream
Brown Buckskin: brown + cream

Dun
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Grulla: black + dun
Classic Dun: bay + dun
Red Dun: chestnut + dun
Brown Dun: brown + dun

Silver
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Black Silver: black + silver
Bay Silver: bay + silver
Brown Silver: brown + silver
Chestnut not affected

Champagne
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Classic Champagne: black + champagne
Amber Champagne: bay + champagne
Gold Champagne: chestnut + champagne
Sable Champagne: brown + champagne

Flaxen
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Flaxen Chestnut: chestnut + flaxen
Flaxen Liver Chestnut: liver chestnut + flaxen
Flaxen Blonde Chestnut: blonde chestnut + flaxen
only chestnut affected

Grey
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Fleabitten: ex
Dappled: ex
Rose: ex
Bloody Shoulder: ex
Solid: ex

Roan
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Blue Roan: black + roan
Red Roan: bay + roan
Strawberry Roan: chestnut + roan
Purple Roan: brown + roan

The Pinto Patterns
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Tobiano: ex
Overo: ex
Splash: ex
Sabino: ex
Tovero: ex
Manchado: ex
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Re: Silver Fox Acres - Coat Color Discussions

Postby Inkiing » Wed Oct 06, 2021 3:56 am

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Understanding SFA Color Inheritance and Genetics
a guide to the world of offspring color probability



These are the genetic codes according to the world of SFA and are not perfect matches to their irl counterparts in real gene tests for the sake of simplicity and clarity for our artists and members.



The Base Genes
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Extension: E
Agouti:A
Brown: At


The Modifiers
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Cream: C
Dun: D
Silver: Z
Champagne: Ch
Flaxen: f
Grey: G
Roan: Rn


The Paint Genes
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Tobiano: To
Overo: O
Splash: Spl
Sabino: Sa
Tovero: To + O
Manchado: ma



this is a rough guide to using Punnett squares, calculating offspring colors, and understanding combinations of different genes. Like the last post, some of these are simplified to fit lore and to benefit the artist and members.




About Heterozygous and Homozygous
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Heterozygous: In which the two alleles of the gene are not the same, one is dominant and one is not, meaning the horse has a 50% chance to pass the gene to offspring.

Homozygous: In which the two alleles of the gene are the same, both are either dominant or both are recessive, either way the horse has a 100% chance of passing a copy if both are dominant.



Dominant vs Recessive Presenting
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Dominant Presenting: one or more dominant alleles is needed to present this gene. "EE" or "Ee" would present black, but ''ee" would not.

Recessive Presenting: flaxen and manchado are the only two SFA genes that require two recessive alleles to present. A horse with Ff or FF would not present flaxen but ff would. Chestnut can be presented with "ee/aa" in addition to one or mroe copies of agouti but anything bay or bay based requires at least one copy of agouti.



Using Punnett Squares
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Taking the mare and stallion's genos and entering them into Punnett squares is your best bet and identifying possible coat colors for the foal. Running fewer genes at a time and taking probability is recommended. As mentioned however, there are some reasons why you wouldn't need to put genos in a Punnett square to know what your going to get, thinking back to the heterozygous vs homozygous if you have two homozygous carriers OR a heterozygous and a homozygous carrier you will be guaranteed the presentation of that gene except in the case of flaxen or manchado.

It is good to note that the only time a horse CANNOT be homozygous for a gene is in the case of overo (O) as that tends to cause "lethal white" and offspring do not tend to survive this. SFA bans the breeding of two horses carrying overo for this reason.



What Cannot Be Inherited?
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In short, anything that doesn't have a listed genetic code to it. Markings, specialty coats, shades of any specific color (ex. cherry bay vs dark bay), or pinto spot shapes. Just because you have two solid black parents doesn't guarantee you a solid black foal, all markings are rolled for randomly. As tempting as it would be to let chimera or bleach pass, they are specifically reserved for certain numbers thus these special markings and colors cannot be genetically passed down. If you have a specific marking set for a specific coat in mind, its best to purchase a "custom horse ticket" for that.
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Re: Silver Fox Acres - Coat Color Discussions

Postby Inkiing » Wed Oct 06, 2021 6:26 am

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Rehoming
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About Rehoming:
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If for whatever reason toy decide you no longer want a horse you received you may rehome them! If you do not have a player you want them to go to, the horse will go back up for adoption and another player will apply for the horse. Upon surrender, the horse will lose their halter, show name, barn name, and seal of approval - the horse will not keep any of these and the name cannot be reapplied for as the name belongs to the old owner.

Please be sure of your decision to rehome, it is permanent and you likely will not get the horse back. Sales or rehoming outside of SFA is strictly prohibited and will result in repossession of the horse and a ban from the community.
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