September Rain wrote:Taf900 wrote:Yeah I definitley understand your frustrations and you make very great points. I joined in 2012 and I honestly don't remember but I don't think we did the 2:1 rule back then. I think the other part of it is so many people have joined in like the last five years so they all had to individually trade for any pet they own before 2015 or so where they have just as equal chance at getting these pets for free or little work after they've joined. Like you could get dozens of rares in a year never trading if you were active for events and whatnot. But you would only get three from years before you joined (December 18). So in addition to more being locked up in people's collections, it also takes a lot more work to get get them, especially depending on your age.
And yes of course if we collectively decided they were worth the same, it would be easier to get them, but then they would get locked up in collections even more. So maybe the 2:1 is a little far fetched and unfair but I think it is actually quite a bit harder to find older pets even with the same or lesser rarities.
I rejoined after a three year break around mid 2020 and I have since built back up a complete collection for those years (accept store pets and special releases) and I found all of those pets within a couple months even though they were up to three years old or so. However, I am pretty sure there are many 2008-2010 pets that I need that I haven't seen anyone have up for trade at all or only a handful. Availability is just a lot lower because people care more for their older pet collections because they had to work harder to get them
Yeah, I never really factored in availability before, but this thread has opened my eyes to that issue. How do you personally value older or otherwise harder to find rares?
I generally follow close to 2:1 for older rares or I'll do like a 2013 and a 2014 for a 2011 or 2012. It kind of depends on the other person as well. I also do roughly 2:1 for uncommons into rares of the same year but a lot of people would never trade a rare for any amount of uncommons.
I think the other issue with trying to judge a pets inherit worth against another's is that even if there were half as many of pet A as pet B, does that mean you should offer two of pet B for pet A or is it more complicated than that? I think probably 2:1 has stuck because it is easy to do two of one pet for the next year. Like what happens if you want a 2019 rare and you only have 2020s and the other person doesn't want to trade down with uncommons. By saying 2 of one year equals one of the next, the math for similar year pets becomes easy, and if everyone does it that way then it doesn't really matter if that's how hard they are to find or whatever, it's just the expected cost.
I think a lot of people feel like if we make it less than that, like a 2015 could equal a 2012, then trading will be a lot easier and you can find stuff better, and maybe there would be a more active economy for a minute but I don't really know it's that's how it would go down?
