A Tale of Two Packs (Discussion)

[Spiritstar3]

I mean, he did say she wasn’t loyal to anyone...so she said she is loyal to someone.

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Clue gathering sounds good

[belloblossom]

So we've come to a bit of a crossroads here: I'm not allowed to hurt anyone character without their permission and I doubt Spirit is going to allow Snow/Star to have their tongues bitten out or their vocal chords crushed or what have you - rendering them unable to speak.

So, Thunder will only accept soldiers in his pack. He's not going to let anyone run off or return to their former packs because they don't agree with him - he would sooner see them killed. It's not his fault that Starfire joined because she couldn't handle being single and that Snowfire signed up because he was bored. -shrug-

So... @Spirit - How do you propose we go from here? (I'm entertaining other ideas from other users if anyone has a suggestion!)

[belloblossom]

I mean, he did say she wasn’t loyal to anyone...so she said she is loyal to someone.

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Clue gathering sounds good

Lol he also said that she was swayed by love, so it's like obvious that he knows what's up. xD

[Spiritstar3]

Snowfire actually didn’t join because they were bored, they heard Sira and Star talking. Then they asked about Night pack and were interested in joining. Did Sira actually tell the others to kill pups? Because I thought only she and Thunder had discussed that.

Also gotta ask why he wants everyone to kill pups, and can’t let even one of them help some other way. Snowfire can also be convinced to hurt/kill pups if you keep trying...

[belloblossom]

Honestly he probably wouldn't have *everyone* killing pups, but at this point it's not about what he would have them do, it's finding out to what level that they're loyal to him. If they won't follow absolutely every order of his, then they aren't of any use to him, because there's a small chance they could be disloyal (and he's an insecure baby when it comes to loyalty, haha.)

Sounds like Snowfire didn't have much of a reason to join and just joined on a "well I'm interested" whim. Correct me if I'm wrong, but that sounds a lot like "you left your pack because it was boring, so you went to a different one instead" lol xD

And yeah, Sun did mention that Sira would have vetted everyone with the "Hey you're gonna need to kill some babies btw". At least, that's what I understood. So there's no plausible reason why Snow/Star wouldn't have gotten that question and been okay with it. Like, you can double check it with Sun, but that's what I took away when I asked her about it. -shrug-

So, how're we going to figure out the conflict between Thunder (who is not gonna let up) and Snow/Star?

[sunhorsestar]

@Spirit: The way my characters work is they don’t fall in love right off the bat. Ever. It takes a long time to build up a connection. Blizzard will be interacting with a number of wolves, yes, including Spiral and Prim alike.

[Spiritstar3]

I don’t know about Star (I’m pretty sure Sira actually just said “Smoke is with us and we want to break the truce and will you join?” but I can’t remember because it was awhile ago) but you can just keep pushing (asking telling whatever Snow) and they’ll say yes

I also have to ask how Thunder knows a human word like military and how it works. I doubt there were military men in the woods, or that he’s ever been around them. Sun also definitely said not to have them know a lot about humans. Unless there was a plausible reason, like campers in the woods and a wolf overhearing then speaking.

Yeah, I know, but he probably should have told Spiral he was going to go talk to another wolf. That would have been better to post first then whatever else you put in that post. Who are we waiting on; Artemis? Who plays them?

[sunhorsestar]

We're waiting on Artemis, yeah, and she’s played by Poppy

[belloblossom]

Honey, our wolves weave blankets and have trading circles and you're getting upset about Thunder knowing the idea of a working military? In a roleplay where war is a prominent part of the storyline?

Thunder isn't going to keep giving them time to make up their mind. He asked them twice, they wasted their chances. So are they gonna grovel and beg for their right to keep their tongues, or do you have a better idea?

[Spiritstar3]

We're waiting on Artemis, yeah, and she’s played by Poppy

Kay. Blizzard is supposed to be hard to get with or angsts because of Mick vanishing, right? I just swear I remember you saying something like that.

Bello: Read my last post, and also Smoke’s, because she’s still involved.