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Re: villainy commenced [[1x1 w/ the-nug-king & verily!]]

Postby grey matter » Sat Jul 25, 2020 4:04 pm

"That... is really poetic. In a good, not tragic way! The baby is a being of infinite potential... however, it is always down to the baby to be the catalyst of that potential... well, after a while, anyways. I don't think you should trust a baby's decision making skills unless you're... I dunno, doing some kinda... babymancy. Infantmancy? You're not doing that though, so, help Morgan to their fate and... yeah." He paused, now wondering a bit more about his childhood. His utter lack of it had become solid now that he had told more people... it was like his lack of history was definitely his history now. He supposed that could make him more enigmatic and it was an interesting concept in and of itself... but, wasn't it also a missed opportunity? If it even was one?

[[the vibes. i have vibes. there's A Lot to go through with me and there's no way i'm throwing down my diddly dang Life Story (i think some of my stuff might lean adhd which is why i brought it up first/also because i wasn't aware of the sheer Overlap [boy i should look into Why Do These Have So Much In Common]) but i will (perhaps dramatically if i feel like it. ive been really doing my over-the-top-villain-vibes irl with my pals lately)(but then again probably not dramatically more like,,, party blower kazoo and a small pile of confetti that will need to be vacuumed later) reveal the answer if i do get a diagnosis of some sort.
ive always been a fan of/relating to those like,,, neurodiverse coded characters(i think ive at least heard of these two being coded at least,,,) or at least like. two of them. two of them i know of lol... there's peridot from su (lime dorito legend frickin,,, lov her. i just. i just do. i appreciate her) and then entrapta from spop (science, babey! i also appreciate her and she said some stuff that Resonated With Me)
Facts being capitalized there just Feels Very Good and that's nice. it ends it on such a good note like. man i really like your writing, from the rp to casual ooc notes funtimes
also i would like to announce ive managed to write a whole lotta words for my wip. id prolly have to like. copy paste it into a pm because i dont wanna make a copy of my wip and have to make sure i dont get my real wip and my copied wip mixed up so if ya wanna read it sometime ya can! ive gotten really good feedback on it so far and im starting to realize,,, heck a lot of people like my writing and it isnt just my dad and my teachers i can. i can write well what. oahukkn, i might actually try to finish this wip and try not to lose motivation
fun fact: this is also like. my third project to come at least partially with some ai help. two of the initial characters came from my mind alone and one came from the ai then i added to him from there. a potential second ai based character might come in later toooooooo]]
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Re: villainy commenced [[1x1 w/ the-nug-king & verily!]]

Postby the-nug-king » Sat Jul 25, 2020 4:23 pm

"I'm not expecting them to decide on a developed moral viewpoint any time soon. I simply... do not want them to feel they have to be a hero, or a villain, or anything they don't want to be. I also will not allow anyone to force some kind of fate or destiny onto them."

"You think you can do that?" said Cazenar. "Some people are just made to be good or bad. I'd say we're the bad guys. Well, maybe not Lazarus, who apparently missed out on all that defining childhood stuff and just started out making all his own decisions or whatever, but the rest of us? We're kind of totally the bad guys."

Three hesitated. "I don't know what happened in your childhood, but I know that everything I am is what I was made into. I will not see the same happen to Morgan."

((I was Not Expecting fun baby times to get so deep and philosophical, sorry!!

Yeah I'd def recommend looking into them!! And neurodiverse coded characters are so Good. I haven't seen su or spop but yeah I've definitely heard peridot feels Autistic!! After I got my diagnostic I was just kind of "...I'm gonna headcanon loads of characters as autistic and also make All the OCs autistic now!" Although Three was not Planned to be autistic, I just kind of looked at them one day and went "oh yeah you have So Many autistic traits (and also some of your abuse/trauma feels very ABA based)". Caz was like... I knew he was neurodiverse in some way, but not How, and then eventually just went, "oh whatever, join the autism pile, it's the best, I mean you'd totally snatch up plastic frogs for stimmy purposes, just do that." And Morgan's just been stimming and infodumping since I first imagined them.

Also aaaa thank you writing compliments are Good, and also I like your writing style too, you are good to talk to!! And yes I would be very happy to read the wip!))
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Re: villainy commenced [[1x1 w/ the-nug-king & verily!]]

Postby grey matter » Sat Jul 25, 2020 4:53 pm

"Does my utter lack of childhood not make for a good villainous backstory? If I just framed it better, it could... could be seen as the... ugh. I can't just tie more tropes to this. They never feel right... I mean, I think I could... It could be better, but the lack of- no. It isn't. Yeah. It's just here. I kinda rolled with whatever I... did I even decide to... hm. Uh- feel free to disregard everything I said just now if you want to, it doesn't really have relevance, I'm just trying to see if I can make my lack of history sound better or... seem like anything. I think my backstory just solidified like, a few minutes ago. Can't make up my past now! I guess I have to say not having a backstory is my backstory. It... isn't very motivating. Weird!" Lazarus exclaimed. "Woah, did I just... lose any chance of a weird motive based on my past? Um- maybe one of you should take Morgan again. I probably shouldn't hold babies while trying to comprehend what's going on right now." Ohhh boy. Was the world trying to induce a Confusion Session in him? "Um- back to the thing about Morgan's future... uh... wait, time isn't super real anyways, um- yeah, I'll... get back to you on that with something philosophical and interesting once I remember why I'm even at the Academy."

[[Infodumping is also an autistic thing? Ah, then the signs may actually be pointing to autism moreso than ADHD but then again ever since I got on my anxiety medication it's like my anxiety finally calmed down enough for me to unlock the second phase of my Mental Discoveries: [I Went On A Ramble Here And It Got Kinda Upsetting So I'll Spare You Unless I'm Given Permission], or, Oh, Wait, What? I Show Signs Of Stuff And My Anxiety's Sheer Prevelance and my Lack of Knowledge on Brain Stuff Means I'm Only Just Realizing This Now? Fun...?
and if i am neurodiverse in some manner than uhhh looks like i gotta confirm all my ocs ever are neurodiverse because hhheck i mean im pretty sure im ace and like. i dont even know HOW to write non-ace people. i dont know how to emphasize with what i can only assume to be a primordial instinct becAUSE NOBODY EVER DESCRIBES THIS STUFF IN A WAY I CAN COMPREHEND and uh. yeah i don't see why it'd be any different for brain stuffs because,,, uh well brains are neato and they do a thing and pjdsysvh8nt,u maybe i did manage to write neurotypical people but like. i just project SOME stuff on to at least all of my ocs it's. it's a lot. man humans are so varied it's remarkable.

nsbablph, thanks!!! i will provide it tomorrow when i can! and it is A Okay that baby stuff went this way now i can consider something i never considered about lazarus: why the heck is this man at the academy in the first place. oh man cazenar you've sparked the "i was a protag. maybe im not meant to bad guy. maybe i still AM protag. maybe... maybe im ofhydsx,tyxi" in lazarus. dude i didnt even think of why youre at the academy. i love how any plot holes i leave actually get implemented in with lazarus and inamonth his whole lack of backstory is actually fun to write and KCX,INVJJ I SERIOUSLY DON'T KNOW WHY HE'S AT THE ACADEMY POOR GUY DOESN'T EITHER (WELL NOW IT'S CLEARLY FOR LUCAS + FRIENDSHIPS BUT I MEAN.,, LIKE AT THE START)]]
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Re: villainy commenced [[1x1 w/ the-nug-king & verily!]]

Postby the-nug-king » Sun Jul 26, 2020 2:59 am

Three took Morgan back quickly. "Are you... both all right? I can ask DarkBoard to turn off temporarily, if you wish?"

"We're fine!" said Cazenar. "I mean, I'm fine! Are you okay, minion? You don't need to worry about the whole backstory thing, no one really needs a backstory! You're just a villain because you recognise that villains are cool, and have the most fun, right?"

((Infodumping can be both! Like generally long term special interests is an autism thing, and short term hyperfixations is an adhd thing, but again, there's overlap and I'm here going, "Okay I know I've had years long special interests, but currently I'm cycling through a few different things every few months, are these special interests or hyperfixations or What??" You are welcome to ramble if you'd like! Either here or in PMs if you'd prefer.

Also yes good all the neurodiverse/ace ocs. I think I have Some neurotypical ocs, but like my only straight OCs are villains (and also the parents of one of my fave ocs who accidentally developed a lot) because Can't Relate to straight ppl.

I hope Lazarus is doing okay! Cazenar is getting close to revealing some of his Tragic Backstory, which I wasn't expecting.))
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Re: villainy commenced [[1x1 w/ the-nug-king & verily!]]

Postby grey matter » Sun Jul 26, 2020 3:31 am

"I- I don't even know if I did? I don't even know if I did! This is so weird. The weirdest! I don't normally have... inexplicable memory loss-slash-inexistence, but when I do... it's this or my childhood, apparently! And backstory is what... shapes a person! Usually. Um... I... don't seem shallow to you guys, right? Like, the entirety of my existence isn't shallow, right? Just need some... reassuring. Otherwise I'm gonna attempt to... make myself seem... uh, more established. I'm... otherwise alright, just really disoriented that my ...lackstory, as I'll put it, is exactly that but only just becoming certain now. I can just... feel it rattling around in my bones, kinda? But also in my head. Metaphorically, though. And at least the term 'lackstory' is here to bring me up from... this."

[[oh yeah it's prolly hyperfixations because im incapable of keeping a lot of things/ideas active but like... holy heck, villains? ever since the start of our rp i have been villain/villain-vibes OBSESSED. that's... also why i couldn't seem to keep up a writing project ever. i hyperfixate on it for a couple of... weeks, and get an amount done but then it d i e s. luckily this hasnt happened to Prince Of Nights, which is like. my magnum opus if i can finish it. it needs some revising and stuff despite only being on chapter 3 and all non-pov characters probably need a little bit more developing moments but im about to get to one.
I mean, heck, I haven't even had romantic attraction. I think I'm doing decently at writing alloromantics despite being probably greyaro with how much I like... want that romantic stuff, I just haven't had That Quote-Unquote Soft Fuzzy Crushy Feeling. like the only REAL crush i didn't just like... decide upon or just rolled with (ex. this time in my childhood i just,,, was like "okay guess i have a crush on you" but really it was more like... friendship) was the soda.

ooo. laz is... alright? he's coping with this decently because he's Used To Inamonthian Weirdness (+5 Something to all Inamonth-based Things That Require A Willpower Boost, i guess) but he's also like,,, heck why did i even come here inamonth wth

LACKSTORY IS A VERY TASTY PUNMANTEAU.]]
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Re: villainy commenced [[1x1 w/ the-nug-king & verily!]]

Postby the-nug-king » Sun Jul 26, 2020 4:21 am

"DarkBoard, would you mind turning your attention elsewhere, for a while?" Three asked. "Neither of you seem particularly all right. But I have never found you shallow, Lazarus"

"Yeah, me neither. And you don't want a whole backstory anyway. You weren't around for the Professor Mortwain year, where you? It kind of made clear that tragic backstories are the worst and no proper villains should have them."

"I remember you being a vocal supporter of Professor Mortwain and his brand of villainy, actually."

Cazenar shrugged. "Whatever. I'm a supporter of every hot man I meet. I'm shallow like that."

"It seemed a lot more than that."

"Yeah, well."

((congrat on your Prince Of Nights then!! But yes villains Good!

And Lucas and Lazarus are good presumably alloromantics, I like them!! And deciding on crushes is a Mood. As a kid I was just sometimes, "I am Girl and therefore like Boys. This boy was nice to me so.... I guess I have a crush on him???"

I love Lackstory))
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Re: villainy commenced [[1x1 w/ the-nug-king & verily!]]

Postby grey matter » Sun Jul 26, 2020 4:32 am

"That's relieving to know... I think? I dunno, villainy is weird, I'm confusing, Inamonth is strange, everything is... bizarre. The synonyms weren't coming to me for a second there. But I think that's just my nature. Everything's an anomaly when you're an anomaly! It's an oxymoron, the usual bizarre... heh. I'm glad you guys don't think I'm just... undeveloped. There are much lower tiers of Inamonthian thought-having I could be on... I'm glad I actually have... thoughts. And I don't just repeat the same four sentences to give out a quest or something. I'll be fine. Stuff is weird and I am weird and that's just how things work. I'll... adapt to it. Like usual!"

[[dhufhsjdkj EXACTLY mood
okay good i'm glad my Skillz work out decently. i mean ive Alluded to like. maybe demiromantic laz. but he was pretty quick to warm up to lucas so i dunno. hm.
lackstory is such a tasty pun. it is *chef's kiss* embodied]]
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Re: villainy commenced [[1x1 w/ the-nug-king & TMKnave!]]

Postby the-nug-king » Sun Jul 26, 2020 5:42 am

"Yeah you're one of the most important people in Inamonth, right?" said Cazenar. "Which automatically makes you great. Also, I don't have underdeveloped minions."

"I'm glad your feeling better, Lazarus," said Three. "How... how are you, Cazenar?"

"Ugh. Fine. I'll tell you my tragic backstory if you let my hold your baby."

"Morgan is not, and never will be, a bargaining chip. I simply thought you might find it helpful to talk. My apologies."

Cazenar sighed, collapsing back on Three's bed. "Does it matter?"
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Re: villainy commenced [[1x1 w/ the-nug-king & TMKnave!]]

Postby grey matter » Sun Jul 26, 2020 5:52 am

"Yeah, you could... say that on the importance thing. And it matters, something does at least. Especially if you're rolling with it after one re-questioning. Or... was it two? I wasn't keeping track. But if it matters enough to where you would say it... well, you've dug yourself into a hole that might end up with you telling someone anyways." Lazarus shrugged.
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Re: villainy commenced [[1x1 w/ the-nug-king & TMKnave!]]

Postby the-nug-king » Sun Jul 26, 2020 7:56 am

"Fine. Hey Morgan, have you heard any stories yet, in your day of life? Do you wanna hear one? It's about a bunch of terrible people. It'll be a fun start to your life as a villain."

"I don't think Morgan will mind hearing this."

"Right. Whatever. So I'm from a space opera originally. Loads of different species all over my galaxy, you know? And I lived in a city on a planet where the indigenous people had been kind of, uh, pushed out of the way when the rest of us arrived on our spaceships, and they lost the rights to their land, you know, classic colonisation narrative. And there's a whole bunch of indigenous people in my city and I guess they had some sympathisers? I mean, I was six at the time, I don't know all the politics of the situation, and I don't really remember the details of their rebellion? Just the empire's army turning up after, to put it down. Y'know. All basic stuff."
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