Dog Owner Chat V. 5

[General Chaos]

I have a dog named Pie. Shes a 8.5lbs Papillon, and shes a year and a half old. Some of you may remember her from me posting about being attacked by a Pitbull a few months ago.

Well, today she was her happy normal self. I went outside front to smoke while my mother let her out back to go potty. She gets put on a lead and my mom watches her the whole time to make sure she goes potty.
After I came back in my mom asked me if she normally shakes. Its cold here so I thought nothing of it until I saw her.

She was swaying back and forth, and almost looked like a bobble head that drank a little too much. She had difficulties standing, and often would fall over. She also seemed to not recognize me, would flinch every time me or anything go close to her. (Including my moms dog that she grew up with and loves dearly.)

My mom noticed she was sniffing something outside so when I went to look there was red berries from an ornamental crab apple tree on the ground, but we aren't 100% sure she even ate one.

We rushed her to the emergency vet down the road and they ran multiple tests but ultimately didn't find anything. They assume she ate something toxic and gave her fluids and activated charcoal to bind whatever it is and flush it out.

However, while she is getting better and will finally let me pet her and hold her like normal she still does have episodes where she cant walk.

//was asking medical advice, apparently cant do that but I just re-read the rules and it says nothing about it so...?\\

[Zeena]

I need help!

I have a dog named Pie. Shes a 8.5lbs Papillon, and shes a year and a half old. Some of you may remember her from me posting about being attacked by a Pitbull a few months ago.

Well, today she was her happy normal self. I went outside front to smoke while my mother let her out back to go potty. She gets put on a lead and my mom watches her the whole time to make sure she goes potty.
After I came back in my mom asked me if she normally shakes. Its cold here so I thought nothing of it until I saw her.

She was swaying back and forth, and almost looked like a bobble head that drank a little too much. She had difficulties standing, and often would fall over. She also seemed to not recognize me, would flinch every time me or anything go close to her. (Including my moms dog that she grew up with and loves dearly.)

My mom noticed she was sniffing something outside so when I went to look there was red berries from an ornamental crab apple tree on the ground, but we aren't 100% sure she even ate one.

We rushed her to the emergency vet down the road and they ran multiple tests but ultimately didn't find anything. They assume she ate something toxic and gave her fluids and activated charcoal to bind whatever it is and flush it out.

However, while she is getting better and will finally let me pet her and hold her like normal she still does have episodes where she cant walk.

I'm sorry you have to go through this.. my puppy ate a couple pieces of sugar free gum a couple months ago and I was so scared because its deadly to dogs... What my vet told me is if they eat something they aren't supposed to, let them vomit it all out, don't give any medication to keep her from puking. I really hope your pup is ok, sorry I couldn't help though :c

[Taiger Lilly]

Happy update on Olive,
Embark just added testing for the mutation that is associated with type 1 IVDD (slipped disks due to calcification of the spine) and the results are available for all dogs tested through embark.
Surprisingly, Olive is clear! This means she does not have the more harmful type of dwarfism!
I'm simplifying here but basically there are two different mutations of the same gene and both cause short legs, but only one is associated with an increased risk of IVDD.

[eleutheromania]

it is a relatively new test so hopefully more information and statistics will come out to further it’s accuracy. we have breeders in the dachshund groups looking into it and dogs being at risk with zero back issues. currently it’s a 35% clear and 65% at risk for dachshunds.

[Taiger Lilly]

Do you mean 35% have CDPA only and 65% have CDDY?
There are several diseases with incomplete penetration, meaning the dog can have the mutation and not the symptoms of the disease. Degenerative myelopathy comes to mind as one.

Embark claims 99% accuracy on testing for the prescence of the mutation but makes no claims as to whether or not the dogs will develop IVDD.
Here's one of the papers they cited which claims that the CDDY mutation increases the risk of IVDD 5.5–15.1-fold, not that every dog is affected

[eleutheromania]

i just glanced at the post. it’s 35% clear as in N/N. the rest were either n/l or l/l. i’m just relaying their thoughts in that dog breed community. just as the accuracy of the Pra-1 and 4 isn’t seen as accurate between some labs as they cross test with different labs and have had different results. the picture showed FGF4 Gene on Chromsome 12,( CDDY) Theyre also discussing the chromosome 18. these breeders are also helping with research in the sable and shaded long hairs on finding the exact allele for intensity on the agouti gene. they’re just saying it’s not conclusive enough to use for selective breedings.

[Taiger Lilly]

Interesting!
It's not my world so I can't say I'm throughly educated on all aspects of dachshund breeding decisions, but if the data so far is shown to be accurate and future results are consistent with the current studies I do hope they are willing to breed away from it eventually.

I do appreciate you sharing their thoughts so far though, as it's not something I would have come across on my own.

[eleutheromania]

eventually yes, that’s the plan. they’d just need more studies over longer period of times to further eval it in order to start using it for selective breeding as properly bred and tested dachshunds are few and far between already. the current group discussing it also cross euro-american lines for better structure etc so even the imports are being shown as at risk etc so hopefully that gives a better reason as to why they’re on the fence.

[ggukboy]

Hello! I’m here to say I just recently rescued a puppy mix, 3 months old. She’s about 13 pounds and very very playful, she loves dogs and humans of all shapes and sizes and always wants to play! I recently am trying to teach her heel, drop it and no excessive barking which she will end up doing when she sees the cats because she just wants to play. She’s pretty smart and learned sit and stay quickly!

Welcome to your forever home Ellie May!

[Faybell]

Today Wick turned 2!

Here is a few pictures of him enjoying his dog safe cupcake, yogurt ice cream, and new snuffle mat I made him.







Time really flies. It feels like it was only yesterday he was a tiny pupcorn that barely weighed 3 pounds.