ERGENT NEWS ABOUT WOLF BILL!

[MissingPhantom]

I did not say Native Americans didn't kill them. I said they lived together without making them endangered. You heard me wrong.

[pizzas and scream]

For one thing wolves do not eat or attack people or children unless they are rabid. It's wild dogs that do that. People just cliam it was wolves because they want an excuse to kill them. If anything they try their best to stay away from people. Its not right that people think that they can kill off an entire speices just because they feel like it. They were here first and the wolves and Native Americans lived togther without being wiped out. If they weren't meant to be here then God won't have put them here! they have lives and families just like people. In fact they hold more family value than humans do. It's wrong to kill them just because you can!!! Let them live their lives!!!

wolf in Asia eat people all the time.

why is everything black and white issue, it always is "OMG they want to kill Brumbies, greedy greedy sheep farmers."

American Indians didn't extinct everything for numerous reasons.
Buffalo weren't almost wiped out "for teh lulz and bordum"

how do -you- know it was "feral dogs" that did it? the ones ion Romania are "harmless". i cannot imagen elsewhere stray feral wild dogs are more killer instinct.

Wolves rip apart carcasses, tear unborn baby elk from their mother's wombs, and will leave kills uneaten. True beauty <3 Wolves don't create Charlie Sheens, but they don't create conservation efforts either, now do they? Like I said: with the power to do great evil comes the power to do great good. And stupid? How exactly are we stupid? If wolves were as smart as us, they'd be typing up responses on the computer right now. BUT THEY'RE NOT. Notice that?

and we make veal calves

[RavenMystic666]

Does it suck when a wolf is shot? Yes.

Is it a necessary evil? YES.

When there are no humans involved, elk will drop in population if wolves begin to overpopulate, and subsequently, wolf numbers will drop. However, when humans come in, wolves will simply move and adapt to our 'territory' and eat garbage/pets/children, and their numbers will continue to grow. Just look what's happened with coyotes-- they're all over the place.

Unless you'd like to be wolf chow, population control (meaning limited shootings) is necessary.

Go save the Ethiopian or Red Wolves. They REALLY need help.

I'm sorry but wolves don't attack people unless they mess with there cubs or they are starving/rabid and that has been scientifically proven. It has also been scientifically proven that a strong predator species, like wolves and mountain lions are needed to keep elk and deer populations from booming out of control. Why do you think wolves were re introduced in the first place? As for wolves eating children there are no proven cases of wolves eating children or of having attacked them. There are more recorded domestic dog attacks than there have ever been documented wolf attacks. I will also point out that if people left the deer and elk alone and left nature to itself there would be enough natural prey for wolves to hunt and they wouldn't bother with farmer's cattle. Farmer's complaints about wolves attacking their sheep and calves are often proven to have been caused by the farmer's chasing off deer and elk because they compete with their livestock for food, thus setting themselves up for wolf attacks. And before everyone gets mad at me my Uncle and I have a working cattle farm and he and I both live in prime wolf territory. He is also a wildlife rehabilitator and we have had absolutely no problem with wolves at all, or mountain lions or bears either. If you take necessary precautions and leave well enough alone you will have very few problems from wild animals. In every documented animal attack on humans the humans have been found to be at fault. It is my opinion that most people are just mad that there are actually animals out there that prove we are not at the top of the food chain like we like to believe we are. I'm glad there are animals big and tough enough to eat us and keep our own population in check considering we have overpopulated every area we have "civilized".

[pizzas and scream]

I'm glad there are animals big and tough enough to eat us and keep our own population in check considering we have overpopulated every area we have "civilized".

again, cyberbullies and murderers

[ru.]

In Oregon (where I live) wolves are only just returning, with but one confirmed pack. However, they are not wanting to remove wolves off of the endangered species list in Oregon; which doesn't make any sense!

When there are no humans involved, elk will drop in population if wolves begin to overpopulate, and subsequently, wolf numbers will drop. However, when humans come in, wolves will simply move and adapt to our 'territory' and eat garbage/pets/children, and their numbers will continue to grow. Just look what's happened with coyotes-- they're all over the place.

It's the natural course of things. Elk population would drop and wolf population would rise, then the wolves would eventually starve and die off; lowering wolf population levels, and the elk population would again rise. It's the way things are supposed to happen.
However, wolves were often hunted to artificially raise the elk population for hunting.

It's human overpopulation that causes the problem. We are moving into their natural territory (whether it be wolves, deer, foxes, coyotes, raccoons, pumas etc.).
I live in a rural area where rabbits, coyotes, pumas, bobcats, deer, and other high desert animals are abundant. However, we have no problem with them. Why is that? Because we haven't taken over their territory, and we don't hunt their food sources. If suddenly everyone went out and began hunting jack rabbits, we would undoubtedly begin to have an issue with coyotes, pumas, and bobcats, coming onto our property and hunting everyone's barn cats, sheep, pigs, and cattle.
But for now, the predators stay as far away from human inhabitants as they can. I commonly hear coyote howls on clear spring and summer nights, but I've only seen coyotes a few times the entire 16 years that I've lived here.

[Kat]

Im not able to ride them unless they want to be ridden, nor get a halter on them or lunge them they are in charge of that. My dog if she didnt like the way I smelled or didnt like something a did she would growl and I understood to back off I respected the fact I know she could kill me when my parents were around she let them be in charge but to me she was superior.If a person killed a person the other person is not killed most of the time but sent to jail. If a person kills an animal it gets a highfive. If an animal kills a person it gets killed even if the human was going to kill it tell me how thats fair.
I feel were run on false intelligence and personally think animals are the only sane creatures on the planet we are not even worthy of life most of the time. Animals see true beauty and guess what they dont create Charlie sheen joran van der sloot ect. We are actually also quite stupid in my opinion.
An animal is an animal and they have instincts and do what they must to survive we sit and watch tv get fat and kill them for no reason, why do we have a right to live when we are IN NO WAY the fittest. Get rid of the guns, knifes weapons and all things we have made, leave us teeth fingernails and instincts guess who would be killed bear or human? wolf or human? who would freeze? who would starve?
We shouldnt let the animals run things eh? What we doing right now?

Once again, I will ask you, PLEASE capitalize and punctuate correctly. Not only will it make your posts easier on the eyes, but it will give your standing more validity, because right now you sound like a whiny 11 year old.

Than that's not safe. You should not be below an animal in status, as they could turn on you at any moment. If you were truly subordinate, than you would never be able to get a halter or ride those horses. They'd push you down in the mud.

Wolves kill elk. They get food. NOW TELL ME HOW THAT'S FAIR. Why is it okay for animals to maul and kill other animals and not for humans to? Btw, wolves (along with other animals) will often surplus kill. OMGWHAT HUMANS AREN'T THE ONLY ONES THAT KILL FOR SPORT??!?!?!

Not worthy of life?I'm sure there's a river or a cliff somewhere near you. There'd be one less human, right? Please don't go around spouting 'we are all evilll!' without taking a look at yourself. Go out there and do something instead of 'sitting on the computer and getting fat'.

Wolves rip apart carcasses, tear unborn baby elk from their mother's wombs, and will leave kills uneaten. True beauty <3 Wolves don't create Charlie Sheens, but they don't create conservation efforts either, now do they? Like I said: with the power to do great evil comes the power to do great good. And stupid? How exactly are we stupid? If wolves were as smart as us, they'd be typing up responses on the computer right now. BUT THEY'RE NOT. Notice that?

Fittest intellectually. Did you read my post? Is it wrong for otters to use their superior intelligence to bash clams against rocks? Is it wrong for us to use guns to hunt down deer? I honestly see no difference. We're both using technology that we've formulated. Yeah, take away the knives and guns and we'd die. That's why we have our intellect-- it's the reason we survived. We don't have superb senses, or sharp teeth, or extreme speed. No, our 'gift', for lack of a better term, is intelligence. Why is it so wrong for us to use it? No different than otters.

EDIT: Eep sorry did not see that last message until after I posted D: I'll stop.

Wow.
If you want to talk intelligence, okay... wolves don't type on the computer but they sure don't pollute our planet either. To be honest, a more intelligent species would know when to stop releasing harmful chemicals into our earth's atmosphere upon realizing that it is slowly killing us.

Also, I think it's funny that in an argument a person will always jump on the another person's grammar or punctuation when they find out that the individual they are debating with is coming up with much more intelligent answers than themselves. ^.^

[Pangali]

IF THE POPULATION IS TOO BIG THEN RELOCATE THEM OR TAKE THEM TO A ZOO OR SECURE RESERVE!

[Dill]

Omigod really those bastards... I cant believe them they wouldnt do that to domestic dogs and plus wolves can control their own population damnit. ''Lets reintroduce them than lets kill them'' I cant beleive those people

I agree, expect with the cursing. What would we be able to do as a teen in the middle of nowhere?

[gingertail98]

Go save the Ethiopian or Red Wolves. They REALLY need help.

^this
Sorry to bring up an older post, I don't like the killing of the grey wolves, but everyone is like "ZOMG save the grey wul!!1!!1!11!"
When really we need sensible people saving the ACTUALLY IN DANGER species.

[sidereus]

Reposting my thoughts from another similar thread:

Wolves are misunderstood. By wolfaboos, that is. /engage on-topic rant

- Wolves are not on the ESL (Endangered Species List), thus can and should be hunted in-season to ensure the population remains stable. Unfortunately, other species are not faring as well. Shark fins still flood the black market, as well as rhino horns, turtleshell soup, ivory, and worse 'treasures', such as gorilla hands, bear gall bladders, and musk deers' musk glands.

- There have been many cases of wolf attacks, and not all are because of rabies/defense/etc. with some resulting in one or more person(s) dead.

- Wolves are not pets. They are wild animals. Just because you've 'luvd dem 4ever' or 'undrstnd woofs bcuz I am 1' does not mean a. they, by some MIRACLE, won't kill you, b. You can find an actual wolf breeder, not a false Tamaskan Dog or even husky breeder. Not to mention it's illegal without the correct permit.

- If you accuse humans of 'hunting for luxury' or 'overhunting', then google "wolves surplus killing". Trolololo~

As someone else (on abeforementioned thread) said,
"Why do people assume just because someone loves wolves, they think the animal is an angel that does no wrong? (...) Honestly, I'm getting sick of people assuming wolf-lovers are shallow idiots who only care about that species."

This is because of the extremely skyrocketing population of wolfaboos, wolf lovers driven to the point of suggesting 'human holocausts' or actually stating they are wolves trapped in a human body, or "i ripd a huntrz gutz out w/ my glwin prple clwz". It is a face-palming, head-desking, braincell-killing fest of idiocy. They use txt language like it's understood worldwide.

Links down here~
Wolf attacks on humans: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolf_attacks_on_humans or http://www.aws.vcn.com/wolf_attacks_on_humans.html
Fatal wolf attacks: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/35913715/ns/us_news-life/t/fatal-wolf-attack-unnerves-alaska-village/ http://www.hcn.org/issues/315/16084
Wolfaboo definition: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Wolfaboo