Dog Owner Chat V. 5

[Taiger Lilly]

Olive started her first heat today, just a few days short of 10 months old.
Still can't believe how fast she's growing up.

[maninkari]

Olive started her first heat today, just a few days short of 10 months old.
Still can't believe how fast she's growing up.

Oh wow, she really is growing up fast. Have fun dealing with her first heat, lol.

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Guys, I'm so mad. There's two human/dog aggressive bullies that have started roaming. They were trying to get through my gate earlier and whenever I turned my back they'd tried to climb over it. They're much bigger than JJ, and one I'm pretty sure is still a puppy. Looks like a smaller version of the other one, so I'm guessing they bred the original one and the pup came out with even worse HA. I already posted about the older one snarling at me, he's never actually lunged before today though. Couldn't even walk JJ because they have complete free roam of the street. Ugh.

[taurus ;]

So I need help finding something, if anybody here could help it, Inwould appreciate it!!

Anyways I am looking for an explanation of prong collar use, NOT THE LEERBURG method. The prong theory that is based upon prong corrections mimicking the mother dog scruffing the puppy. I have literally found one video on it, but no articles.


Here’s the one video I found, but it’s doesn’t really explain how to give corrections with this method of prong use:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3m1PbhL5uNw


Don’t recommend the Leerburg method, I am not doing that to my dog, sorry.

Trained and maintained actually keeps the collar low and loose which is dangerous for the dog's neck.
They also use a martingale like attachment in the front, so as they correct the dog, it chokes on the front
and they say corrects the dog like its mother on the back of the neck with the prongs.

By keeping the prong loose, it causes uneven pressure so a correction could put all the pressure on one
side of the dog, causing extreme pain.

Please keep the prong snug at the top of the dogs neck, this evens out the pressure and actually STOPS
pain. It just gives an even pressure to the dog if it pulls, instead of an uneven sudden pain to the side of
the neck if the prong is loose.

edit : for example, take a rubber band and put it on ur wrist, keep it loose and suddenly yank it, it
will quickly cause pain and your entire arm to jolt quickly. Now, wrap the rubber band around your
wrist so its snug and yank it, there will be an even amount of pressure and your arm will be gently pulled
int the direction you're tugging in.

Susan has been training dogs for a very very long time, she knows what she is talking about.

[warmblood]

So I need help finding something, if anybody here could help it, Inwould appreciate it!!

Anyways I am looking for an explanation of prong collar use, NOT THE LEERBURG method. The prong theory that is based upon prong corrections mimicking the mother dog scruffing the puppy. I have literally found one video on it, but no articles.


Here’s the one video I found, but it’s doesn’t really explain how to give corrections with this method of prong use:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3m1PbhL5uNw


Don’t recommend the Leerburg method, I am not doing that to my dog, sorry.

Trained and maintained actually keeps the collar low and loose which is dangerous for the dog's neck.
They also use a martingale like attachment in the front, so as they correct the dog, it chokes on the front
and they say corrects the dog like its mother on the back of the neck with the prongs.

By keeping the prong loose, it causes uneven pressure so a correction could put all the pressure on one
side of the dog, causing extreme pain.

Please keep the prong snug at the top of the dogs neck, this evens out the pressure and actually STOPS
pain. It just gives an even pressure to the dog if it pulls, instead of an uneven sudden pain to the side of
the neck if the prong is loose.

edit : for example, take a rubber band and put it on ur wrist, keep it loose and suddenly yank it, it
will quickly cause pain and your entire arm to jolt quickly. Now, wrap the rubber band around your
wrist so its snug and yank it, there will be an even amount of pressure and your arm will be gently pulled
int the direction you're tugging in.

Susan has been training dogs for a very very long time, she knows what she is talking about.

don't mean to cause a fight, but, (not regarding any trainer in particular) just because someone has trained dogs for a long time, doesn't mean that the methods are in the dog's best interest/ the best for the dog.

[BlingBling]

don't mean to cause a fight, but, (not regarding any trainer in particular) just because someone has trained dogs for a long time, doesn't mean that the methods are in the dog's best interest/ the best for the dog.

^^ Cesar Milan has been training dogs for a long time but does that mean he's right?

What are the dry kibble y'all would recommend now? I was looking into Origen/Acana but heard something about a lawsuit?

[Temper]

Fromm and ZiwiPeak!

[taurus ;]

So I need help finding something, if anybody here could help it, Inwould appreciate it!!

Anyways I am looking for an explanation of prong collar use, NOT THE LEERBURG method. The prong theory that is based upon prong corrections mimicking the mother dog scruffing the puppy. I have literally found one video on it, but no articles.


Here’s the one video I found, but it’s doesn’t really explain how to give corrections with this method of prong use:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3m1PbhL5uNw


Don’t recommend the Leerburg method, I am not doing that to my dog, sorry.

Trained and maintained actually keeps the collar low and loose which is dangerous for the dog's neck.
They also use a martingale like attachment in the front, so as they correct the dog, it chokes on the front
and they say corrects the dog like its mother on the back of the neck with the prongs.

By keeping the prong loose, it causes uneven pressure so a correction could put all the pressure on one
side of the dog, causing extreme pain.

Please keep the prong snug at the top of the dogs neck, this evens out the pressure and actually STOPS
pain. It just gives an even pressure to the dog if it pulls, instead of an uneven sudden pain to the side of
the neck if the prong is loose.

edit : for example, take a rubber band and put it on ur wrist, keep it loose and suddenly yank it, it
will quickly cause pain and your entire arm to jolt quickly. Now, wrap the rubber band around your
wrist so its snug and yank it, there will be an even amount of pressure and your arm will be gently pulled
int the direction you're tugging in.

I would like proof that keeping it low and loose with NO prongs on the dogs throat while using it is dangerous. What’s the use of a correctional tool if it’s contantly correcting the dog, even when it’s doing the right thing. If it’s tight enough to stay up right behind the ears, yes it’s constantly correcting the dog.

[Flossie]

don't mean to cause a fight, but, (not regarding any trainer in particular) just because someone has trained dogs for a long time, doesn't mean that the methods are in the dog's best interest/ the best for the dog.

^^ Cesar Milan has been training dogs for a long time but does that mean he's right?

What are the dry kibble y'all would recommend now? I was looking into Origen/Acana but heard something about a lawsuit?

I think the lawsuit was misinterpreted with numbers, something along those lines. If you check out their Facebook, they have a report about it up. Lacey’s on Orijen and couldn’t be happier with it tbh. She was on James Wellbeloved beforehand, but she constantly needed her anal glands emptied, and now they hardly ever need to be expressed which is handy, haha.

Anyways, Lacey went in for her X-Rays and bloods yesterday. We’re visiting a specialist hopefully on Saturday to see his opinion, but the other vets didn’t seem too worried, thankfully. They think it’s something to do with her hips, which I assume is from her jumping through the snow, which was quite heavy, or jumping off the ditch.

[Taiger Lilly]

Mind linking to the post where it is confirmed false?
All I see is a post denying the allegations.

While I agree that the group behind the lawsuit (Clean Label Project) isn't very trustworthy and definitly needs more proof, a facebook post by Champion Pet Foods saying "No they're wrong, just trust us" isn't proving them to be false. Most companies deny these kinds of allegations when faced with lawsuits, for example Blue Buffalo.

That said if I did feed one of their foods or wanted to switch I wouldn't be dettered by the lawsuit until it actually sees a courtroom, anyone can file a lawsuit.

[Flossie]

Mind linking to the post where it is confirmed false?
All I see is a post denying the allegations.

While I agree that the group behind the lawsuit (Clean Label Project) isn't very trustworthy and definitly needs more proof, a facebook post by Champion Pet Foods saying "No they're wrong, just trust us" isn't proving them to be false. Most companies deny these kinds of allegations when faced with lawsuits, for example Blue Buffalo.

That said if I did feed one of their foods or wanted to switch I wouldn't be dettered by the lawsuit until it actually sees a courtroom, anyone can file a lawsuit.

Ah, must’ve read it wrong then. Think they said about a misinterpretation about the numbers? Something along those lines. Edited my original post, apologies. ^