Selena. Thank you for coming.
Thank you for having me.
You may begin whenever you like.
The sole love of my many lives is a woman who happens to be my cousin, or my cousin who happens to be a woman, dependent on which evil you view as greater. I know what you're thinking: this is repulsive and unnatural and what the hell is wrong with me, and you're not even a social conservative. Well, trust me, I didn't choose this for myself – after all, who would ever choose to love someone they knew they could never have? – and, if I could have chosen to love Carl, I would have, a thousand times over. But I wasn't able to – who you love, in terms of both gender and identity, is something you have no say in, apparently – and so here we are.
The vast majority of my early memories include Kasena and, despite the fact that I always knew her as my cousin, that I always recognized the fact that we share a pair of grandparents, the revulsion for romance that is natural between blood never occurred between her and I. In a sense, I suppose you could say I never truly learned that it wasn't okay to love her romantically, or perhaps I realized that and my heart simply didn't care; the reason for my love of Kasena doesn't really matter now.
I think I was around twelve the first time I realized I was looking at Kasena the way she was looking at Sean, and everything from there on out for me went downhill, to use a common cliché. At first, I had hope that perhaps Kasena felt the same way, that we could ignore the fundamental problems with a relationship between us and live out a 'happily-ever-after' of sorts by ourselves, away from the judgmental public eye. The fact that Kasena would date boys but quickly became disinterested in them, like she was restless and looking for something, fueled my fantasies, because I believed that maybe she was like me, that maybe deep down she liked women too and she simply didn't want to admit it to herself. Her asking me to become her blood-sister when she was sixteen and I was fifteen nearly sent me over the edge and made me confess everything, because I viewed that as an admission of her love for me, but I – wisely in retrospect – kept my mouth shut and simply accepted her offer, the whole time loving and hoping from the sideline.
When she was eighteen and lost her virginity with Sean, I was totally devastated. What I had been fearing those last five years had finally happened: I had indisputable proof that Kasena was straight, that she would never be mine. I suppose I probably knew that fact all along, ever since I became old enough to truly notice interactions and saw that Kasena treated men like I wanted to treat her, but the reality finally setting in was excruciating. I spent many nights after that awake with worry over what I would do if Kasena found serious male company and – God forbid – actually got married; essentially, I wasted so many hours fearing what would happen if I lost Kasena completely in terms of potential romance. Kasena, being my blood-sister, of course sensed all of this inner turmoil I was experiencing but simply thought it was stress about going off to college. You know, she has one of the best pairs of warrior's eyes I have ever seen, but when it comes to seeing and understanding people she can be very nearly blind, and it is because of that that my attraction to her wasn't discovered earlier. The fact that she didn't really understand love or know what love felt like also let me hide for a little while longer.
There was a string of one-night stands after Sean for Kasena, all of them done in the hope of discovering a cure to her terrible insomnia – well, really it's more of a compulsion with being awake, but either way anything that drives her to not rest for ten days is dangerous, and Kasena recognized that just as well as the rest of us. Despite the fact that I knew she was simply trying to help herself, each night I could feel Kasena with a man cracked my heart a little deeper, and by age twenty I had officially given up on any hope of Kasena ever being mine from a romantic sense. That capitulation, of course, didn't do anything to solve my problem of loving her, but nothing in nearly three thousand years has done anything to affect that.
I began searching for someone to ease the pain of the hole Kasena had drilled in my heart, someone to hold me on the nights Kasena was with someone else and no amount of alcohol could drown out the sensations in my mind, and that was how I met Carl.
I hate to interrupt, but you seem to speak of Carl very fondly, despite the fact that I remember Kasena mentioning that he cheated on and eventually left you.
It is true that Carl did cheat on and leave me, but don't take that as a reflection of his character. He was a wonderful man who loved me in vain for nearly thirty years as well as an excellent father to two beautiful children.
Anyways, I remember the night we met vividly: I was at The Bolt, a bar downtown where I could always get free drinks because the owner Mark absolutely worshipped my mother, and I was sitting in the stool in the corner that was always reserved for 'Lizzie's daughter.' I was drinking a Scotch – one of many questionable habits I learned from Kasena – when I heard someone next to me and looked up to find a young man about my own age sitting in the seat next to me and smiling over at me.
“Do you maybe know of any good drinks in this place?” he asked me, and I remember being struck by the way his hair curled against his temples and the way his eyes twinkled behind his glasses.
“Well, I'm currently drinking Johnny Walker Scotch, but I honestly think it tastes like horse piss and the only reason I'm drinking it is because my best friend loves it,” I answered, and he laughed, and it was then that I fell in love with Carl Magnus Salans' laugh.
“How about I get you another drink then?” he said, and he called Mark over and got us both Heinekens. That was also the night I fell in love with that wonderful green bottle.
When Carl and I finally parted ways that night, we had exchanged phone numbers, and he promptly called me at seven o'clock the next evening and asked me out to dinner three days from then.
We had gone on ten dates when I finally brought him into my bed, and that was the first time I had been with anyone, male or female. I never really planned on being with anyone, much less a man, but Carl was a welcome distraction from Kasena and he was sweet and gentle and incredibly nice to be around. Six months later I found myself married to Carl, and the morning after our honeymoon I was finally consumed by guilt and told him everything: that I was in love with my female cousin, that I had never really meant for things between him and I to go this far, that all of this was essentially an accident, and he was far more accepting and understanding than I would have thought possible.
Instead of becoming wildly angry or demanding a divorce on the spot or being repulsed by me, he simply responded that he had suspected there was something between Kasena and I from the beginning and that the only thing he wished I had done differently was tell him earlier. When I – more shocked by his reaction that he was by my confession – asked him what he wanted to do about it – as in, whether or not he wanted a divorce – he told me, “Selena, I married you because I love you, and I think that you could come to love me too, and I will wait expectantly until that day comes.” Then he kissed me on the mouth and pulled me back into bed.
I think that, from the very beginning, I shared Carl's sentiment: I think that I always believed that, at some point, my heart would realize how wonderful and good for me he was and I would forget about Kasena and love him. Unfortunately, that never happened, and after thirty years of waiting for me, Carl finally realized that I would never come around and so, for both of our sakes, he went about forgetting me, which involved cheating on me and leaving me. He never really stopped loving me though, just like I never really stopped loving Kasena.
Kasena said earlier that you and Carl were actually separated for a month before his death.
That is correct. He and I both took painstaking measures to make sure that no one would discover the fact that our marriage had deteriorated, because doing so would force me to explain the fact that it never had a truly solid base to begin with. You see, even after I had essentially betrayed him for thirty years, Carl still wanted to help me. He was such a wonderful man, the kind of man that you only run into once in an eternity.
I apologize; I am getting needlessly nostalgic. Anyways, yes, that is correct. His death was – dare I say – at a convenient time, because keeping up the charade was starting to become increasingly difficult, and his death gave me an excuse to release all of the sadness I kept bottled up inside of me.
Sadness? Are you inferring that you did in fact love Carl?
That is a common misconception many people have that apparently you do as well: the fact that I did not want Carl from a romantic perspective didn't mean at all that I didn't love him. In reality, I loved him more than I have ever loved another person besides my children and Kasena, but the affection I felt for him was solely platonic.
Because of this, Carl's death greatly affected me. I had just lost one of the most important people in my life for the last thirty years, and I found myself suffering from withdrawals of his presence. I missed his smile and his laugh; I missed the way there was always something on his glasses, no matter how many times a day I wiped them; I missed the way his mouth felt on mine; I missed his quiet, gentle strength; I missed his arms around me every night. For the first few days after his death, I curled up with a few borrowed bottles of Kasena's Johnny Walker horse piss and alternated between sobbing and drinking and apologizing to God and Carl for my mistreatment of him, and on the third day someone finally dared to approach me.
I opened the front door and found Kasena standing there, her hands in her pockets and the wind tossing her long black hair back and forth. Before I could say anything, she stepped forward and hugged me, and I remember noticing how she smelled like hot chocolate and her citrusy leave-in conditioner.
“You've had a rough last few days, eh?” she asked when she pulled back, and I gave her a wordless nod to have her pull me into the bedroom and hold me against her and stroke my hair and tell me, “Go to sleep, Selena. Go to sleep.”
I had shared a bed with Kasena on other occasions – when we would go on raids, that was all we did – but that night was different. That night was so much closer and more personal that it sparked the fantasies I had forgotten for more than thirty years, and I found myself utterly and hopelessly in love when she left the next morning.
I continued to see Kasena throughout the next thirty years of my life – we saw each other every week at least, although our encounters were almost always more frequent – and, as I grew older, I could sense her guilt and pain over the fact that I grew older and weaker while she stayed the same. She blamed herself for my mortality, and nothing I could do or say would convince her that there was nothing she could do and that it certainly wasn't her fault that the immortality gene had skipped me.
Finally there came the day when I knew for certain that I was going to die, and so I called in all of my family and friends so I could see everyone I loved one last time before I died. Kasena, as I requested, was the last one to arrive, so she was the last one to see me alive.
As I lay on my deathbed and stared up at my best friend and my one big mistake, the one love I should have never felt, I wanted so badly to tell her everything, to spill my guts and explain my love and my guilt and my pain, but even as I lay dying, with no more than a half an hour left to live, I couldn't summon up the courage to tell her the truth. Instead, I told her that it wasn't her fault – not that the repetition of that sentiment did any good at all, of course – and that we would meet again in another life because we were blood-sisters for eternity.
And you have met again in another life.
Indeed we have, in a life where I am finally in the body Kasena knows again.
Do you consider that a coincidence?
I spent twenty-nine centuries and forty-one lives tracking Kasena down, and in many of those lives our paths missed crossing by five minutes or five seconds even. No, I do not consider the fact that I have finally found Kasena as Kasena's Selena a coincidence.
If you don't mind me asking, how are you handling Kasena's engagement to Sean?
I am wildly happy for her, because she has finally found someone to love her like she deserves and whose presence lets her actually sleep, but also incredibly jealous and heartbroken because I am watching the person I have wanted for two thousand, nine hundred and eighty-four years marry someone else even after I have revealed my feelings.
So Kasena knows?
Of course she knows. I would not be talking to you today if she did not.
And how is she handling the news?
She is understandably stunned but surprisingly unaffected. She doesn't seem to feel awkward around me – she certainly doesn't act any differently around me – and, most important of all, she loves me just the same.
How has Sean reacted to everything coming out?
He wasn't particularly surprised; he, being incredibly observant of people as well as hopelessly in love with Kasena, undoubtedly suspected from the beginning. In all honesty, he is seemingly unaffected by the news as well. He knows that Kasena and I are blood-sisters and so anything between us is strictly between us, and he simply seems to accept me as a compatriot in the club of Kasena's unknown admirers.
And your mother?
After what happened with Xavier, my mother truly can't be particularly disgusted with my love for Kasena, and God knows she certainly doesn't have an issue with me liking women. She is more concerned with the fact that she finally has her daughter back.
So what will you and Kasena do from here?
What we did for the seventy years we were blood-sisters: I will love Kasena one way and she will love me a different way, except this time we will be able to understand and accept the differences in our forms of affection. But one thing is for certain: we will continue to love each other, as we have done and will do for all eternity.
Kasena. I wasn't sure you would be able to make it.
Well, I'm here, for better or for worse. Hey, you got any Scotch on you? I could really use a drink.
There's some in the cabinet to the left.
[Long pause]
What? Did I drip some on myself?
No, not at all. It has just been a while since I have seen you, Kasena. I had almost forgotten how much you look like your father-
-Except for the eyes, I know. Your guess is as good as mine as to where those came from.
[Long pause]
Selena mentioned your drinking habits almost fondly.
Did she? Huh. She certainly never spoke of them fondly in our first life together.
Selena also mentioned your sleeping habits with far less fondness.
Oh, the fact that I have terrible insomnia? Yeah. Although it's more of a compulsion with being awake, really, and it's so strong that my record is ten days on my feet without sleeping.
You sound terse.
Well, this is kind of a hell of a lot to take in. I mean, I had the woman in my head for seventy years – seventy years! – and I never knew; hell, I never even suspected! It's just... how could I have been so ignorant to the true feelings of the person I thought I knew best in the world?
Well, to be fair, you have kept some rather large secrets from Selena in return.
Oh, you mean the blood polarization thing? Yeah, I guess that is kind of a big thing to keep from her.
Refresh my memory on what exactly your condition is.
Well, it's pretty simple: because a quarter of the blood in my body is Kuro's, or the god of evil's, and a quarter is Tom's, or the god of good's, it's unstable mixed together like it is, because their blood was never meant to be blended. The result of this instability is that there's a ninety-seven point three percent chance that, at any given point in my lifetime – it could be in a minute, a day, a year, a thousand years – the blood in my body will polarize and I will die an excruciatingly painful death. There's also a two point seven percent chance that I could live forever, barring any other ways of dying.
So you could die at any given point during this conversation?
Well, I wouldn't die immediately. First, I'd get hit by convulsions and waves of pain so powerful that I'd go in and out of consciousness, and then I'd be able to feel – with incredible accuracy, by the way – the blood in my body literally separating and moving to the two different halves of my body. Then my body would start to glow, half-white and half-black like I can already make it do, and, when it's all said and done, the official cause of death would be cardiac arrest because no heart in the world can pump hard enough to make unmixable blood mix.
How do you know that that is exactly how will you go? Have other instances of blood polarization occurred?
Yeah. You know the town on Titania, Dengelemek?
I've heard of it, yes, although I've never been there because I've never really been one for the off-world colonies.
Well, dengelemek means balance in Turkish, and the whole town is almost a little tribute to me. The place was technically founded by Abigail's children, so Lizzie's great-grandchildren, all of whom have opposing blood like I do because of Kuro being married to Abigail. Because of this, there have been numerous cases of lethal blood polarization, although mine – if I'm ever so unlucky to have it happen – would apparently be much worse because the ratio of good blood to evil blood in my body is exactly fifty-fifty, whereas everyone in Dengelemek has far more evil blood than good blood so the polarization doesn't tend to be as severe. Hell, there have even been cases where people have survived it – not that I can hope to be that lucky, of course.
And there is no way of discovering whether or not you are ninety-seven point three or the two point seven without you dying?
Nope. The only way to tell will be if I suddenly experience what I described earlier and drop dead. Then we'll know that I'm the ninety-seven point three.
So you essentially have had the threat of sudden, excruciating death hanging over your head your entire life?
Yeah. I worried about it at first, but then I just stopped caring. I mean, if I'm going to die like that, then oh well. There's nothing I can do about it.
[Long pause]
You mentioned the town of Dengelemek was sort of a tribute to you. How so?
Well, if you live in that town and you've got split blood, you're entitled to a yin-yang tattoo right in between your shoulder blades on your sixteenth birthday.
A tradition that I assume was started by you?
Yep.
Would you mind showing me this infamous tattoo?
'Course not.
[Long pause]
Well, it is exactly as you described: a yin-yang sign right between the shoulder blades.
Yeah.
How was the age sixteen first decided appropriate to receive such a tattoo?
Well, my dad figured that if I was old enough to drive a car and therefore seriously injure myself and others, then I should be able to mutilate my skin with whatever the hell I wanted – given that he approved of the tattoo first, of course.
And I'm presuming he required you to get his approval first simply because he wanted to make sure the tattoo was worthwhile?
Yeah. He didn't want his daughter getting a rainbow peace sign on her nipple or something like that. Besides that, my dad's got no problem with ink; hell, he's got tattoos himself.
Yes, I remember distinctly when he received his last one.
Hm.
[Long pause]
So, after all the recent revelations, what is your relationship with Selena currently like?
I don't really know, honestly. I'd like to think it's unchanged, that the twenty-nine centuries and all the uncovered dirt between us and our first life together don't really matter, but I'd be ------------ myself if I really believed that.
Has her demeanor towards you or your demeanor towards her changed significantly?
Not really, thank God. I may know that she's in love with me, but she's still my Selena and I'm still her Kasena and that's never going to change.
You are very devoted to her.
Well, yeah. I carved her initials into my thumb and took her into the back of my head twenty-four/seven. I bonded my soul with hers for eternity. If that's not devotion then I don't know what is.
If you don't mind me asking, why did you never tell Selena about your blood polarization and the possible death awaiting you?
There just never seemed to be a good time. Besides, I didn't want to worry her with it. I mean, I know, as the person who would be the most affected by my death, she had a right to know, but I didn't want to force my suffering upon her. I figured it'd be easier and better if I died suddenly without her knowing why than her knowing my cause of death after constantly worrying about me dying.
You know, Selena confessed to me that she wanted to tell you the truth about her attraction to you on her deathbed but just was never able to work up the courage to do so.
We're cowards in the same vein then. Except she's less of a coward than I am, because it only took her two thousand, nine hundred and seventy-two years to come around and tell me the truth and I'm still keeping secrets.
Do you plan on ever telling her?
Yeah, I do. She certainly deserves to know – she's always deserved to know – and I think she'll be able to handle it better now, now that we know that death is not forever.
You still don't sound completely convinced about the idea of reincarnation.
It's not that I doubt it – hell, Selena wouldn't be here, forty-one lives after we first met, if it wasn't real – but I doubt that it will work for me.
Because you are immortal.
Exactly. Selena's mortal, so she's been given lots of chances and lots of lives. But me? I think this is my one shot, my one life, because that's the price I pay for being exempted from the reincarnation cycle. I guess if you look at it from that perspective, Selena almost got a better deal than I did.
Selena mentioned you blamed yourself for her mortality.
That's true. I always thought it was unfair that a person like me, a person who would never amount to much, should be given forever when a person like Selena, a person to change the world, should be given only a lifetime. Except now it looks like Selena might have longer than I do.
[Long pause]
How do you personally feel about Selena being in love with you?
Well, aside from my initial shock, my first reaction was to feel awful for Lizzie. I mean, her first son gave himself to her when he was fifteen and so is totally, completely, utterly in love with her for the rest of eternity, her daughter is in love with her brother's daughter, and Timmy, the only child who didn't have incestuous urges, died a thousand years ago, and, by all reports, might have been a borderline sociopath simply because he didn't care, because he was indifferent to the world.
How do you view all of the... struggles of the second generation of Gates'?
As a whole hell of a lot of bad luck for Lizzie. I mean, she's an awesome woman, and I'm truly honored to be half-named after her.
Yes, I remember when your father announced your name would be Kasena Elizabeth. That was one of the very few times I have seen Elizabeth Eleanor Marie Gates cry.
Yeah, Lizzie definitely didn't see that one coming. Anyways, I have to imagine she was an awesome mother as well – God knows she loves her children totally, despite all their issues – so not a one of her children turning out normal, even by immortal standards, is just a huge piece of ------ luck in my mind.
How do you think Selena feels about her love for you coming out?
I think she knew that it was inevitable, that there was no way she could hide a secret that big from even someone as blind as me for forever. You know, when I look in her eyes, I see it now. The love, and the self-loathing... I was waiting outside the door, and I couldn't help but overhear you guys. Selena called me her big mistake. Is that really what she considers her love for me to be? A mistake?
I... you will have to ask Selena about that one.
But that's what she really needs to know: that loving someone isn't ever a mistake, no matter how poorly-timed or poorly-situated the affection seems to be, because good comes out of every love. A lot of people feel bad for Lizzie and Xavier, because he'll never have children or a life that doesn't revolve around his mother. But loving her gives him purpose and lets him know that he's still truly alive and prevents him from succumbing to the depression of immortality. I know that a lot of people are going to be pitying Selena and I now too, but we don't need their pity. If it weren't for Selena's love for me, we would have never become blood-sisters and the seventy wonderful years we spent together would have never happened.
So you are saying that you almost are grateful for Selena's love for you, then?
Not almost; I am. I would have never intimately known the most amazing woman in the universe, the woman I am privileged beyond all belief to be blood-sisters with, if it weren't for her attraction to me. Do I wish that her love for me had been purely familial? Of course, but simply because loving me like she does is never going to turn into anything or get her anywhere; all it will do, all it can do, is hurt her. But I would still take a Selena romantically in love with me over a Selena indifferent to me any day of the week.
How do you plan on moving forward in your relationship with Selena, then?
I plan on keeping it as much the same as possible.
Meaning?
She'll love me one way and I'll love her another way and, even though our love might not be the same, it'll keep us together. For eternity.