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Re: Pet Counts for Rarity Ratios - Analysing Data

Postby nickjr » Tue Dec 12, 2017 5:19 am

But then there's also this sentence

Tess wrote:And for some extra rare pets we want more to be released so they're not impossible to collect.


So... tweaking the super rare outcomes down so that we're not flooded with sunjewels, or tweaking them up so that we still have sunjewels in circulation? or both lol

but for list (particularly advents) vs non-list... huh.

What's the raw number of pets that can be rereleased? (basically counting every non-store rare pet released from 2008 to whenever lol) and how many pets are on the current lists (basically URs + 2008 non-extended release)? looking for ballparks for an idea
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Re: Pet Counts for Rarity Ratios - Analysing Data

Postby kijauni » Wed Dec 13, 2017 12:58 pm

nickjr wrote:But then there's also this sentence

Tess wrote:And for some extra rare pets we want more to be released so they're not impossible to collect.


So... tweaking the super rare outcomes down so that we're not flooded with sunjewels, or tweaking them up so that we still have sunjewels in circulation? or both lol

but for list (particularly advents) vs non-list... huh.

What's the raw number of pets that can be rereleased? (basically counting every non-store rare pet released from 2008 to whenever lol) and how many pets are on the current lists (basically URs + 2008 non-extended release)? looking for ballparks for an idea


Cant answer your first question but can answer your second one: As you can see here there are 72 Mainlists (current ones + last years UR), 50 Sept. Lists and 106 Advent List come to a total of 228 List Pets :)
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Re: Pet Counts for Rarity Ratios - Analysing Data

Postby Davy + Aero » Tue Dec 19, 2017 1:44 pm

Volunteering to do something if there's anything left! :)

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Re: Pet Counts for Rarity Ratios - Analysing Data

Postby Fizzlebee » Thu Dec 21, 2017 4:35 am

Hi Aero, thanks for joining us! Right now we're at a roadblock until we find someone with statistical/data analytic knowledge. The problem is that we have all this data and can't draw conclusions about it without that person (or people).

Personally, I've gained a little bit of experience with a basic graphic design program. Unfortunately we don't have the information to map out yet. :c

Maybe we could regularly check in at the Rare's List Guide to see if anyone has stats knowledge and wants to help? @Solloby, we could update our title to "Want Help Analyzing Data" or something similar. I feel kinda bad that people are excited for this new list we can't complete.
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Re: Pet Counts for Rarity Ratios - Analysing Data

Postby Shadowflight13 » Thu Dec 21, 2017 5:07 am

Is it possible to see all the data in one place? Like has it all been compiled in a spreadsheet or something? I don't have a ton of stats knowledge, but I do have some basics. Maybe I could help? c:
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Re: Pet Counts for Rarity Ratios - Analysing Data

Postby Fizzlebee » Thu Dec 21, 2017 3:03 pm

We'd love your help!

Solloby's master spreadsheet is here: https://sta.sh/0h20rk8m231
A picture guide with some basic statistics: https://meowinc.github.io/cs-ref/#/2008/July
Tess's post about Re-releases: viewtopic.php?f=20&t=3441353&p=114305705#p114305705

I couldn't get the master spreadsheet to open on my computer, so we may have to wait for a re-upload if it doesn't work for you. The guide is nice, but we'll need the information on sample sizes from the master sheet. :l

We're looking to have someone determine things like "what differences in the outcome probabilities are statistically significant?". For example, our data came up with a greater number of blue balloon dogs than pink balloons. This would be a new discovery if it were true, so we would want to see if our data is good enough to make that conclusion.

Would anything like that be something you'd be interested in working on? Really anything you could tell us about our data would be helpful!
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Re: Pet Counts for Rarity Ratios - Analysing Data

Postby Solloby » Thu Dec 21, 2017 3:10 pm

I will try to hop on my pc tonight to change topic title, good idea :)

When I am on holidays after Xmas I will try to help analyse data again. Would like help though because if I make incorrect assumptions it could mean an inaccurate list.

Unsure how to consider effect of rereleases. Wondering if we should ignore them for now and just use them to suggest gaps gradually decrease?
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Re: Pet Counts for Rarity Ratios - Analysing Data

Postby Shadowflight13 » Thu Dec 21, 2017 3:32 pm

The master spreadsheet won't open for me either, it shows walls of code when I opened some of the files but that was it?

But yes, that actually does sound like something I might be able to help with! I'll have to brush up on my stats knowledge, but I seem to remember doing something with comparing groups of data, and determining statistical significance. Hopefully I can use that to at least help!
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Re: Pet Counts for Rarity Ratios - Analysing Data

Postby Solloby » Thu Dec 21, 2017 5:24 pm

Can't Dl it on my phone but from memory you have to download the file and open in excel. Don't open from browser, save it on your pc first. If its a zip file, extract it first. I don't think it zip though; will check at home.
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Re: Pet Counts for Rarity Ratios - Want Help Analysing Data

Postby ScarDolphin » Thu Dec 28, 2017 8:23 am

Hello!

I would love to help out if I can do anything! I couldn't get the master sheet to download, however, I got the template down and have had a look at that^^
Let me know if you need my help!

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