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Re: ★ Create A Clan Fanclub V.3 ★

Postby Dinolil1 » Sat Apr 29, 2017 7:55 am

I NEED HELP!


I'm making a story but I want my characters to be as genetically correct as possible!
The main character is a solid brown & white tuxedo cat like this and I wanna know what the parents would look like!
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Re: ★ Create A Clan Fanclub V.3 ★

Postby Simonpet » Sat Apr 29, 2017 8:19 am

@Dino: Here are (in my opinion) the possible genetics of the parents without using too many recessives.
Mother (1) -- aa / bb / CC / DD / dmdm / fdfd / HrHr / ii / LL / McMc / oo / RR / ReRe / RoRo / Ss / sese / spsp / tata / ww / wbwb / whwh
Mother (2) -- aa / b1b1 / CC / DD / dmdm / fdfd / HrHr / ii / LL / McMc / oo / RR / ReRe / RoRo / Ss / sese / spsp / tata / ww / wbwb / whwh
Mother (3) -- aa / bb / CC / DD / dmdm / fdfd / HrHr / ii / ll / McMc / oo / RR / ReRe / RoRo / Ss / sese / spsp / tata / ww / wbwb / whwh
Mother (4) -- aa / b1b1 / CC / DD / dmdm / fdfd / HrHr / ii / ll / McMc / oo / RR / ReRe / RoRo / Ss / sese / spsp / tata / ww / wbwb / whwh

Father (1) -- aa / bb / CC / DD / dmdm / fdfd / HrHr / ii / LL / McMc / oY / RR / ReRe / RoRo / Ss / sese / spsp / tata / ww / wbwb / whwh
Father (2) -- aa / b1b1 / CC / DD / dmdm / fdfd / HrHr / ii / LL / McMc / oY / RR / ReRe / RoRo / Ss / sese / spsp / tata / ww / wbwb / whwh
Father (3) -- aa / bb / CC / DD / dmdm / fdfd / HrHr / ii / ll / McMc / oY / RR / ReRe / RoRo / Ss / sese / spsp / tata / ww / wbwb / whwh
Father (4) -- aa / b1b1 / CC / DD / dmdm / fdfd / HrHr / ii / ll / McMc / oY / RR / ReRe / RoRo / Ss / sese / spsp / tata / ww / wbwb / whwh
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Re: ★ Create A Clan Fanclub V.3 ★

Postby Dinolil1 » Sat Apr 29, 2017 8:21 am

@Simon

I don't really understand that, I apologize!
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Re: ★ Create A Clan Fanclub V.3 ★

Postby Simonpet » Sat Apr 29, 2017 8:23 am

@Dino: Genetics
A/a: agouti/non-agouti
B/b/b1: black/chocolate/cinnamon
C/cb/cs/ca/c: full color/Burmese points/Siamese points/blue-eyed albino/albino
Cu/cu: curled ears/straight ears
D/d: non-dilute/dilute
Dm/dm: dilute modifier/no dilute modifier
Fd/fd: folded ears/straight ears
Hr/hr: normal coat/hairless coat
II/Ii/ii: silver/smoke/non-silver
L/l: shorthair/longhair
M/m: tailless/not tailless
Mc/mc: mackerel tabby/classic tabby
OO/OY/Oo/oo/oY: red molly/red tom/tortoiseshell molly/not-red molly/not-red tom
R/r: straight hair/Cornish Rex hair
Re/re: straight hair/Devon Rex hair
Ro/ro: straight hair/Oregon Rex hair
SS/Ss/ss: 50-100% white spotting/0-50% white spotting/no white spotting
Se/se: Selkirk rexing/non-Selkirk rexing
Ta/ta: ticked tabby//non-ticked tabby
W/w: dominant white/not dominant white
WbWb/Wbwb/wb: golden/golden smoke/non-golden
Wh/wh: wire hair/straight hair
Status wrote:The fly intestines have panned out simply
amazingly! I have co-authored a paper on
them, which is very exciting. In other
news, I'm a lil' nervous about the future
again but I'm hopeful things will work out.
Dragon Cave wrote:none yet
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Re: ★ Create A Clan Fanclub V.3 ★

Postby Heda » Sat Apr 29, 2017 10:47 am

Chamrosh wrote:Other similar things that annoy me;
Cancer is a symptom not a disease, cancer research companies are dumping millions of pounds a year into deliberately misinforming the public and wasting their own research money on a symptom of incorrect internal genetic regulation. It seems reasonable to think as well, if they actually bothered with accuracy that they could also help with other disorders related to genetic regulation, such as muscular dystrophy.
Cancer is ridiculously rare before you're about 60. I know of two people who had cancer before then- my geography teacher and one of my more distantly related relatives. Given how many people you probably know of that's already pretty low but it's something like 1% of cancers happen before that age. About 1/3 of people get cancer because it's so ridiculously common in old age. It doesn't actually kill all that often though. Cancer is slow, as is the actual disorder behind it. Most elderly people don't get treatment for it because, basically, they'll have died of something else first. That's not doctor's being cruel, it's just realism. If your 90 year old patient has cancer and diabetes, and life expectancy is 70, you can be reasonably sure the diabetes will have killed them first. They can live longer by not going through the trauma of chemotherapy and by getting help for the diabetes.
High blood pressure doesn't at all actually impact anything to the extent of being significant. It's just a thing used as a very good indicator of how likely you are to have a heart attack (as blood pressure remains high in the low bit (the bit doctors care about) if there's no rest for your cardiac muscle, then it gets exhausted, then you're more likely to have an attack). Blood pressure's basically like the cancer again, but it's an indicator, not even a symptom.

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      Unfortunately i am going to have to disagree with you on the cancer thing, as my aunt had cancer at 37 years old. she was going through chemo with 26 other people, 12 of them were all under the age of 60 and 9 were going through the same cancer as my aunt (which wasn't breast or lung cancer), they were around the same age as herself and even younger . Once my aunt fought cancer and was feeling stronger, we did a lot of runs to support other families who couldn't afford chemotherapy, and you'd be surprise how many young people there are who have cancer and fought it and still have it and are at these runs. So everyones encourage to get out, and yes there are a lot of old people who get out there too for there families and themselves but many of them were also young.They had a whole bunch of the cancer survivors come up on stage and you wouldn't believe the amount that were so so so young to have had cancer. And if you go read a few articles that percent and age changes with the type of cancer.

      I know more then two people who have had cancer before the age of 60 and two actually passed away because of it.

      Like I said I think it all depends on the cancer as each cancer is different.
      I hope this doesn't create anything unwanted, i just wanted to explain from my experience and many other people I know experiences.

      anyway on a different note when does the trials end?
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Re: ★ Create A Clan Fanclub V.3 ★

Postby ashton. » Sat Apr 29, 2017 1:00 pm

      @heda
      i thought i heard that it would end at the next med cat gathering (which i believe is tomorrow??) but i'm not 100% certain.
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Re: ★ Create A Clan Fanclub V.3 ★

Postby Katrione » Sat Apr 29, 2017 1:23 pm

It ends on the second, so on Tuesday
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Re: ★ Create A Clan Fanclub V.3 ★

Postby Dinolil1 » Sat Apr 29, 2017 8:32 pm

@Simon

Still confused. I mean...what'd the parents look like?
White fur, Brown fur? Tabby?
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Postby deimido » Sat Apr 29, 2017 9:38 pm

      @Dinolil1 - hopefully i translated them well enough! i think these should be simple enough??

      cerdit to Simonpet for thinking of all the possibilities here! :^0 (and thanks for getting me to refresh my memory on all those letters haha)

      Mother 1: is a shorthaired, solid chocolate with medium grade white spotting. (x)
      (LL, aa, bb, Ss)
      Mother 2: is a shorthaired, solid cinnamon with medium grade white spotting. (x)
      (LL, aa, b1b1, Ss)
      Mother 3: is a longhaired, solid chocolate with medium grade white spotting. (x)
      (ll, aa, bb, Ss)
      Mother 4: is a longhaired, solid cinnamon with medium grade white spotting. (x)
      (ll, aa, b1b1, Ss)

      All the fathers to my understanding share the same genetics as the mothers (in order, so father 1 and so on) sooo there ya have it! hopefully it helps and i managed to get things right haha
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Re: ★ Create A Clan Fanclub V.3 ★

Postby Simonpet » Sun Apr 30, 2017 3:26 am

@Dino: Sorry! I forget that not everyone knows what it means at a glance. But art is correct. Of corse, the parents could also have other genetics and just carry recessives (ex: black carrying chocolate) but I decided that would be too complex. If you wanted though, the parents could also be: black carrying chocolate agouti (tabby markings) carrying non-agouti, and/or shorthair carrying longhair. In any of these scenarios, both parents would have to carry at least one recessive gene. As to the white sporting, it's entirely possible that only one parent has white spotting (Ss) and passed it down to their kit.
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