@DaDwarf
I disagree on a technicality. All VR pet's use the same VR pet scale regardless of release (or have been situatedly re-arranged to use said scale), and re-releases are released over and over again and have had years of this treatment, especially those from '08 which have faced... 9 years of re-releases (Re-releasing started in 08, continued every year so 09, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16). My point is 9 years of re-release for some pets vs a VR pet released once in CS's lifetime. That one pet won't be re-released for a while (Several years) so by this stage theoretically it could be guesstimated while thousands of VR's of the same pet are re-released, this
one rat who is a champion in my eyes, would have for sure just done the impossible and could be worth a lot more if no date identity was taken into consideration. Pets which are (
FAKE NUMBERS INCOMING) 1:550 users who are going up and down throughout the year but are re-released will always hover around this area. This one rat's will increase and continue to increase for several years before it becomes part of the "re-release clan". Right now it could be 1:200, by the time it hits re-release, that pet could be 1:600 because users who were on during that event are no longer around, and the pet hasn't been re-released and is most likely forgotten about. (
Fake Numbers ended)
By all accounts, a Pet which is released at VR in '16 (EG: Space advent rat) could arguably and theorietically be debated and convinced to be rarer than a '08 October dog because while that dog has been re-released over and over and over to obtain a VR rating it has (going down to rare on occasion) whereas the rat advent was a pet which started as VR on the spot.
For a pet to gain a VR rating with the current CS population is
MASSIVE. I mean holy crap.
This is also a reason why I am a little iffy with the use of dates to determine a pet's fairness, especially when things are re-released. This can be argued for every VR pet that has been released as well, for instance the August PPS. August PPS to me is the beginning of the Greed train.
So with that logic, by technicality there can be discussion of VR's from later years can be added.
I really want this whole new rarity tag thing, because that will prove this point I've highlighted right. That through rarity, pet's released in 2016 or later can be an actual addition onto the list. If there was this new tag on the rarity system and suddenly the space rat became that rarity, it could mean it takes over pets we see on the list already.
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Going to do some math related. Note:
REAL NUMBERS BUT THIS DOESN"T REALLY CHANGE ANYTHING, IT JUST PROVES A POINT.Pet that is VR is 1:80-1:999 hypothetically going by '09 numbersCS Population active daily in '08 when a '08 pet is released: (Unique views) *Note: number going off 1/18 users created staying around and being online as
This user is the last user to have ever been created in '08. proof here:
LinkCS Population active during an event in '08: (Again going off a 1/18, though lots of people applied around December
First user to make an account in December before the re-release Proof:
Link)
CS Population active daily in '16 when a '16 pet is released: [First user:
First user in Dec 16] vs [Last user:
http://www.chickensmoothie.com/Forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=844139] meaning that CS population growth between these months is at 2-1 ratio of people joining this month.
9401 new users in '16 (take one user ID and subtract it from another)
4184 new users '08 (take one user ID and subtract it from another)
Means growth around Re-release has increased 1:2 rounded to nearest full digit. It's incredible. Though I digress.
There is the whole difference. Last person in '08 was under 20,000 in ID. The last person in '16 is under 850,000. That's a 4250% increase in population. (Math: (850,000/20,000)*(100/1) to find out percentage rule)
CS Population is very out of wack here since discovering the math in numbers. It's like 1:42.5 ratio.
INSERT PET WHERE WHOSE RARITY has stayed constant through growth, for a pet rarity to decrease after the update, means more than what was originally released in '08 was re-released. So if there is 1000 unique visitors a day, means that 1/12 approx users had a Pet which whose rarity has stayed constant through growth at miminum (Going by the 1:80 minimum rule for a VR, this also means that number is less if that pet is like 1:500). By today's scale this pet is 43x rarer because of the number math, regardless of how VR it is. (1:42.5 ratio) But, that pet would have at maximum 43x more of them around the site since '08.
Edit: I lost interest in finishing this off. Very hard to math on mobile have to admit ^^
But... I kind of proved in a way that a pet is 40x or so more common now number wise to keep up ratio with population. That number will increase with re-releases. If a pet which is in this environment of 40x plus is released, then you know... It won't be re-released in two years. The rarity of how it gets rarer is faster now than it is back then. Users are joining, but maybe 1/18 in '08 and more like 1/36 or more accounts are used today. So... Higher chance of inactive accounts too. Means that ratio of pets released now will be higher than originally thought. Like a '08 dog will grow from 1:300 -> 1:400 before re-releasing each year if it stays VR the whole time. But a '16 rare could be 1:100 start off and end up 1:400 by the time it is re-released two years later.
TL;DR: Maybe comparing '08 numbers to now isn't a good idea.