Cat Chat 2

[Thalassic]

Alright guys, I could use some help.
My kitten, Spike (I don't know if I ever told you guys what I decided to name him) is about 11 weeks old now.
He is playful, energetic, cuddly and affectionate. The only problem that I have is his biting. It seems to just be getting worse.
I have never played with him with my hands, so that isn't the issue. Whenever he bites, I either ignore him completely, make a noise and ignore him, or put him down and walk away. None of this seems to be working at all!

What can I do to make this biting issue die down a bit? It's starting to frustrate nearly all of the house members.

(Also, I have an appointment to get him neutered on the 17th.)

Biting is normal behavior for kittens since they would play-fight with their littermates. If they start to bite too hard, you can just make a noise to tell them to stop, and if they don't stop, you can pair up the noise with a spray of water to spook them. Eventually they should learn that noise="stop that thing you're doing" so the biting would be more manageable, but generally kittens will be like that until they "grow up" and calm down with time.

[fluffycat6]

Alright guys, I could use some help.
My kitten, Spike (I don't know if I ever told you guys what I decided to name him) is about 11 weeks old now.
He is playful, energetic, cuddly and affectionate. The only problem that I have is his biting. It seems to just be getting worse.
I have never played with him with my hands, so that isn't the issue. Whenever he bites, I either ignore him completely, make a noise and ignore him, or put him down and walk away. None of this seems to be working at all!

What can I do to make this biting issue die down a bit? It's starting to frustrate nearly all of the house members.

(Also, I have an appointment to get him neutered on the 17th.)

Biting is pretty normal for kittens, usually when they get a little older they calm down. I find playing with them a lot makes them less bitey.

[autobot.]

hellooo
i love cats sooo much! is anyone else here who is a cat owner, allergic to their cats? I don't have a cat yet, but my parents say that I can get one if we move house c: i have some questions too:
they are about my future.

i want to become a Siberian forest cat breeder, and also own a cat rescue center. Which one would be easier to handle?

I am in LOVE with the siberians and I hope to get one ♡♡♡
I am allergic to their dander so that's why I love siberians so much since they are hypo-allergenic.

[Thalassic]

hellooo
i love cats sooo much! is anyone else here who is a cat owner, allergic to their cats? I don't have a cat yet, but my parents say that I can get one if we move house c: i have some questions too:
they are about my future.

i want to become a Siberian forest cat breeder, and also own a cat rescue center. Which one would be easier to handle?

I am in LOVE with the siberians and I hope to get one ♡♡♡
I am allergic to their dander so that's why I love siberians so much since they are hypo-allergenic.

Maybe you already knew this but I just wanted to point out

Hypo means less. Hypoallergenic means less allergenic, not non-allergenic

It is a very common misunderstanding for people with cat allergies to think they can definitely have a siberian cat. This is simply not true. The majority of allergic people is very likely able to tolerate a siberian, but there still are people that get an allergic reaction to a siberian cat.

There is NO such thing as a non allergic cat

Every cat has allergen levels. There is no such thing as a non-allergic cat. A common misconception is that allergen levels is caused by cat hair, which is why a lot of people do not believe a long hair breed, such as the siberian cat, can be hypo allergenic. Cats produce a protein in their saliva called Fel-D1. This protein contains the allergen levels. Because the cat grooms itself, the saliva, and with that the Fel-D1 protein ends up on the coat, and causes dander.
Siberians produce much less of this Fel-D1 allergen protein then any other breed. Because of this, the siberian cat is often a good choice of allergy sufferers.

As for your question, I think breeding could be the less expensive of the two options, and would require far less space. Though for "easy", there would be a lot of factors to look at so it's not quite as easy to say for sure.

[autobot.]

hellooo
i love cats sooo much! is anyone else here who is a cat owner, allergic to their cats? I don't have a cat yet, but my parents say that I can get one if we move house c: i have some questions too:
they are about my future.

i want to become a Siberian forest cat breeder, and also own a cat rescue center. Which one would be easier to handle?

I am in LOVE with the siberians and I hope to get one ♡♡♡
I am allergic to their dander so that's why I love siberians so much since they are hypo-allergenic.

Maybe you already knew this but I just wanted to point out

Hypo means less. Hypoallergenic means less allergenic, not non-allergenic

It is a very common misunderstanding for people with cat allergies to think they can definitely have a siberian cat. This is simply not true. The majority of allergic people is very likely able to tolerate a siberian, but there still are people that get an allergic reaction to a siberian cat.

There is NO such thing as a non allergic cat

Every cat has allergen levels. There is no such thing as a non-allergic cat. A common misconception is that allergen levels is caused by cat hair, which is why a lot of people do not believe a long hair breed, such as the siberian cat, can be hypo allergenic. Cats produce a protein in their saliva called Fel-D1. This protein contains the allergen levels. Because the cat grooms itself, the saliva, and with that the Fel-D1 protein ends up on the coat, and causes dander.
Siberians produce much less of this Fel-D1 allergen protein then any other breed. Because of this, the siberian cat is often a good choice of allergy sufferers.

As for your question, I think breeding could be the less expensive of the two options, and would require far less space. Though for "easy", there would be a lot of factors to look at so it's not quite as easy to say for sure.

mmkay, I might ask for second oppi ions.

I also know that hypo means less.

Kitties are adorable ♡

[Lunarsnow]

i want to become a Siberian forest cat breeder, and also own a cat rescue center. Which one would be easier to handle?

They both have their share of hurdles and challenges. In both cases you would need enough space for all the cats you plan to house and money for their vet bills, food, and any other supplies. Both would require a lot of your time and effort to maintain and you may not make a lot of money if that's your plan.

The breeder option could be the least expensive in those terms if you only have one pair of cats to deal with. But you'd also have to be aware that your tom could spray up the house if he gets anxious or that your mating pair may not even get along and may fight. Cats in heat are loud and moody so every cycle you aren't breeding her, you'll need to keep her away from the tom and deal with her yowling. You'd also have to be prepared for the possibility of stillborn kittens and other pregnancy complications. If you're planning on breeding purebreds you'll need all the documentation of your pair, their bloodlines, any genetic illnesses in their family or in the breed itself. You'll have to be knowledgeable about the breed in general. Plus there's the obstacle of finding someone to sell you an unfixed purebred so you can continue the line. You'd want to be able to check to make sure the people you'd sell to have the appropriate homes and abilities to care for the cat(s) they're buying. Looking for interested buyers before they even breed would be a good idea as well.

Rescue center would be just as demanding, if not more so since it'd be kinda similar just on a larger scale but you won't be breeding any of your cats. If you take in sick cats you need to give them medical care. If you take in aggressive or 'problem' cats you'd need to work with them on their issues so they can be re-homed. Space would probably be the biggest concern here since well that's the biggest concern with existing shelters and the like. More cats also means more cleaning, more vet visits, and more keeping track of who has what kind of issues. If a cat gets ringworm or comes in with fleas you'll have to have a well isolated area to keep them in until the illness is taken care of or else every cat in the building could end up infected which means more money to spend. You'll have to decide where and how to house them but also make sure they're stimulated and can exercise. Anxious and stressed cats get destructive and attitude issues. You'll probably definitely need to have employees once the place gets big enough and always be in close contact with a local veterinarian for all the different cats you'll be caring for. And of course you'll have to be prepared to turn cats away if you don't have the room or the funds.

Either way I'd say do lots of research before deciding. Both are a lot more work than just simply having a pet. Try to get in contact with breeders own rescue center owners and ask them about it. For the center maybe ask to volunteer there to get an idea of how it works or ask the breeder if you can come visit their cats and see their setups.

[_BlackWidow_]

hellooo
i love cats sooo much! is anyone else here who is a cat owner, allergic to their cats? I don't have a cat yet, but my parents say that I can get one if we move house c: i have some questions too:
they are about my future.

i want to become a Siberian forest cat breeder, and also own a cat rescue center. Which one would be easier to handle?

I am in LOVE with the siberians and I hope to get one ♡♡♡
I am allergic to their dander so that's why I love siberians so much since they are hypo-allergenic.

You don't necessarily need to run a cat rescue to be hands on, you can always foster cats, as my family has for the past 8 years, and it's a great experience. Most rescue groups pay for medicine, food, and such, although the downside is you get attached. We currently have 5 cats, 3 of which are foster failures, which is surprisingly not more after over 50 fostered cats. You get to raise them, socialize them, and even sometimes get pictures of past foster babies.

I'm not sure on breeding cats, it really depends on how big of a breeder you want to be.

[Thalassic]

Has anyone here fostered/rescued baby kittens? It's kind of a dream of mine, and I was super excited to find an online store that ships to my country, that actually sells the milk replacement. Of course currently I'm not in a position where I can start working on any of this, but it's a long term goal of mine, to rescue kittens that are too young to be on their own, and raise them until they are old enough to be adopted. One thing I'm worried about, is how to rehome them. This isnt something I'd want to make money off of, but advertising certainly does cost something. And same with vet visits. And since I'm basically an artist (working on a designer degree) I won't really be rich any time soon haha. And baby kittens require pretty much 24 hour care.

[CaligulasPeri]

Has anyone here fostered/rescued baby kittens? It's kind of a dream of mine, and I was super excited to find an online store that ships to my country, that actually sells the milk replacement. Of course currently I'm not in a position where I can start working on any of this, but it's a long term goal of mine, to rescue kittens that are too young to be on their own, and raise them until they are old enough to be adopted. One thing I'm worried about, is how to rehome them. This isnt something I'd want to make money off of, but advertising certainly does cost something. And same with vet visits. And since I'm basically an artist (working on a designer degree) I won't really be rich any time soon haha. And baby kittens require pretty much 24 hour care.

Oh I rescued my cat from the streets! (well, farm)
The owner of the mother put up an advert saying their mousing cat had kittens and they were free if you could catch them, lol
They were all a few weeks old, and we eventually found the kittens behind a bunch of empty water troughs, which is where I assumed the mother left them
We took one, but I dont know what happened to the others after we left :0
Hopefully they got good homes!

[autobot.]

Has anyone here fostered/rescued baby kittens? It's kind of a dream of mine, and I was super excited to find an online store that ships to my country, that actually sells the milk replacement. Of course currently I'm not in a position where I can start working on any of this, but it's a long term goal of mine, to rescue kittens that are too young to be on their own, and raise them until they are old enough to be adopted. One thing I'm worried about, is how to rehome them. This isnt something I'd want to make money off of, but advertising certainly does cost something. And same with vet visits. And since I'm basically an artist (working on a designer degree) I won't really be rich any time soon haha. And baby kittens require pretty much 24 hour care.

Oh I rescued my cat from the streets! (well, farm)
The owner of the mother put up an advert saying their mousing cat had kittens and they were free if you could catch them, lol
They were all a few weeks old, and we eventually found the kittens behind a bunch of empty water troughs, which is where I assumed the mother left them
We took one, but I dont know what happened to the others after we left :0
Hopefully they got good homes!

I would love to foster/adopt baby kittens. My friend got in contact with a stray who gave birth to four kittens, one of them being still born. There were two males, and one female. I honestly hope every night that in the morning a pregnant female will stumble upon our house and choose to live in our shed.

(I don't think it will happen lol my dog doesn't really like cats, but she cares for kittens as if she had her own babies)