Cherub Cats - Leaving CS PG. 59

[Pumpkin~Spice]

I haven't been active as much as I use to be on cherub cats due to real life but I can say that I will continue to support cherub cats, whatever you decide. I think the things you've brought up will help cherub cats be taken more seriously and grow larger as a whole.

I like option C but having said that I think halos should slowly exit the cherub cat boards and have cherub cats focus more on lore, backgrounds ect. And what better way to do this than encourage writting competitions / art competitions to win a cherub cat? As Miomichio mentioned there are some of us who aren't creative but we can solve that problem by doing a few name/ number raffles here and there.

Id still like to see customs but I think it would be best if those are won on special occasions or brought with USD because each custom so far has had its own custom lineart which takes a tremendous amount of work and effort on your side. (Which I and everyone deeply appreciates but it might drag you down in the long run if every custom has it. ). I think if we move it to the boards you can hire more artists and see more cats because there will be a set lineart ( I think? Correct me if I'm wrong?) Then we can have more newbies come in and have a chance at a cherub cat.

These are all some things I'd like to see in the future of cherub cats, please note these are just ideas and opinions and I didn't mean any offense... Im so glad your not shutting cherub cats down because for a second there I was worried ^^

Also I currently have seven cherubs cats and when the forums are up and running, I'd be happy to do a raffle and competition with your permission for people who have less than 2 cats. I'd rather do this and know they are going to someone who will cherish them than just give them away...I hope this is okay with you because I'm already super excited for it.

[kiwipen]

@Miomichio
--- While I'm understanding of lack of confidence, I do want Cherub Cats to be a platform for people to explore and grow their writing and drawing skills. Right now, it's not nearly as competitive as some of the other current Oekaki adoptables, which is good! It'll hopefully give some people some fair shots without feeling like their chances of winning are a million to one.

--- Cherub Cats ARPG will eventually still commence, but I need more time to work on it, to think of how I want to go about it, and what to do. That being said, the competitions / events I would really love to host. In fact, this past December I hosted a lore-based roleplaying thread for people to have a little taste test of what's to come. There are a few major groups at play in the Cherub Cats lore, some of them being ;;;
The Seven Heavenly Virtues
The Seven Deadly Sins
and
Seraphim

--- Your system of promoting doing artwork of other's Cherub Cats and not one's own is honestly pretty lovely, and one I'll have to implement. I think what you are suggesting is a Cherub Cats Art Forum, a place for Cherub Cat fans to not only share but exchange art of their Cherub Cats. I think that's a great idea, and I will have to implement it once Cherub Cats makes it's Oekaki debut. Additionally, the reward for drawing / writing the Cherub Cat of the month will be Halos, I think. Also, it will count towards a person's activity -- as said earlier, I plan on rewarding those that are active with additional ownership slots, HM's which can be used towards getting customs, and being a little more lenient towards them when purchasing Halos, to name a few things.

--- Your last paragraph sincerely made me grin, I really, really appreciate hearing that. I have impressed myself with how far I've taken Cherub Cats, as I originally expected myself to get bored and abandon it. Now, here I am, going full speed ahead and doing my absolute best to keep it going. So thank you, for your support and kindness ^u^

------ A staff member has messaged me and for the sake of people needing purchasing power, I will still allow exchange of art and writing for Halos. I'm not sure how it will work yet, but I'll figure something out. One thing I do know, however, is that it will hopefully be a bit more rewarding than it was in the past.


Now, @Cardinal Sins

--- I do want to take the focus primarily off of Halos. However, the Halo system is still in place because I, like any artist, would still like to be paid here and there for my hard work. I am an adult, and though I gain no real money from collecting CS pets, I have no qualms against buying C$ to get said pets. Largely, accepting CS pets is one way of me saving real money and allowing me to focus my attentions elsewhere when I do have USD C:

--- I actually don't mind doing customs on custom lineart, and though I said this may very well be the last time I do customs on custom lineart, I don't know if I'll end up holding myself to that. And if I do, then, there will be the day that I apologize for being misleading. When Cherub Cats moves to the Oekaki Board, I do plan on an artist search Late January / Early February. However, I am going to be pretty ruthless. Cherub Cats is / was and will always be something of high quality and I am going to be extremely selective in hiring new artists. I have been the sole artist for quite some time, and I plan on staying that way should I not find any artists that are worthy. (And yes, that does sound harsh -- but I care more about the quality of the species than letting every single artist that applies work). And yes, there is a set lineart When I have a few spare moments, I plan on finishing up the Cherub Cats Oekaki base and releasing it to the public.

--- You need not worry about offending me. If anything, I'm more than relieved to see some feedback from the community. I do think I made the best decision by being completely transparent with everyone with how I was feeling, and I want you guys to be transparent with me as well Cherub Cats is still running, and if anything, it's just being held back from going on full speed ahead. Now that we've had this conversation, however, I think I can finally take off those restraints so to speak.

--- Giving them away / raffling them off is completely fine, as long as there is no bias towards / against individuals in your raffles / competitions / however you decide to go about it. I will probably supervise as well, but who you choose to win and how you want to run it is entirely up to you, and is incredibly honorable of you to do.

[kiwipen]

Our Cherub Cat workers have returned with news of a new type of Cherub Cat! On the borders of Cherubim,
deep in the ocean is an unexplored city of Atlantis! Socializing with these strange new Cherub Cats revealed
that some Cherub Cats are capable of swimming underwater. What does this mean? Nobody knows, but one
thing is for certain - the new build will certainly be making a /splash/ as it makes it's big debut!

--- About the Aquatic Build ---

They are forbidden to have any sort of wings, but are not considered Wingless Built.
They can have "corrupt" traits such as fangs, claws, and slit eyes, while not being considered "Corrupt". Strange....
They are larger than Corrupt Cherub Cats.
They do not appear unfriendly, but are quite powerful.
All of them have some sort of aquatic-themed tail.

Traits they can have:
Finned Ears -- Common
Shark Tail -- Common
Dolphin Tail -- Common
Fish Tail -- Common
Fins (On Paws, Shoulders, Back, Cheeks, Dorsal Fin, Fin, Etc) --- Common

Angler Mutation - Uncommon


They are forbidden from having the following traits:
--- Cherub Dog Build
--- Fake Wings
--- Literally Any Wings

More forbidden traits may be added!

Currently, the only way to obtain one is via auction.

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Thank you so much for the support I got yesterday. You guys have made me feel so much happier and much more hopeful for the future!

[allium]

Oh snap, I need one!
I love the concept behind these guys, they really add dimension to the cherub cat world in my opinion <3

[persay]

We Need To Talk

We need to have a talk --- from the Cherub Cat creator and artist to you guys, the fans, the purchasers.

I am not enjoying my job anymore. While I enjoy making beautiful designs for you guys to love and appreciate, I honestly feel less and less of that "love and appreciate" each day.

I made a mistake, putting this on the User-made adoptables board. While at the time of creation that's all I wanted to do - create some nice little characters for people to enjoy, breed, and collect. But, it quickly spiraled into something I was hugely invested in.

The Cherub Cats world has a real lore, one I've been wanting to show you guys for ages -- but I haven't been able to. The only opportunity I've given you guys only three people ended up participating in. And yes, I am quite grateful for you handful that did participate. But for the rest of you --

It's super discouraging to put literally hours of work into each design, and then no one even bothers to fill out the adventure form. Or write with them. Or draw. There are a few individuals, yes -- but they represent about 15% of the current Cherub Cats in circulation.

There were even plans for a Cherub Cats ARPG - something that would reward you guys with bonuses and reward you for character advancement, including breeding slot increase and yet another way to get Halos. But I have put that on hold -- Cherub Cats, as it stands, is not ready for a ARPG or deviantART implementation.

And I have to face a decision as a creator on what to do. I refuse to simply abandon my project, nor surrender it to something that I don't like. But seeing this sudden burst of interest from newcomers has given me some hope that there is, perhaps, interest yet from you guys.

The changes I'm proposing are as follows:

Cherub Cats moves entirely to the Oekaki, a place on the forums where I feel there are more serious adopters. Look at Kalons or Viscets. The amount of fanart, writing, and roleplaying that is involved with them is immense.

My first instinct was to remove Halos completely. However, you guys have invested far too much in this for me to consciously discontinue Halos -- I do believe I'm going to remove the announcement of Halos no longer being able to be bought. Clearly, Halos are still important to you. Therefore, the Halo system will be staying.

This is the last time rare or very rare trait customs can be bought except for special occasions and auctions. The new system in works is similar to the HM system you may or may not be familiar with. Work hard, get rewarded with a custom. Right now there are far too many rare-traited Cherub Cats running around for my comfort.

Which also means that after this, +1 Very Uncommon / Uncommon / Rare / Very Rare Trait Tokens will be discontinued. Folk who have them will be allowed to trade them in for Halos after this. After that, they're gone.

A rehaul of the Halo system. When Cherub Cats was first made, I wanted purchasing power to be abundant. However, the system instated is far too lenient. While I appreciate my wealthy buyers - I don't think anyone should have the power to buy thousands of Halos in one go. The buying system is now more understandable, so unless you hand me a List, Dream, or Store pet, this is a guide to follow:

Commons are Worth 1
Uncommon are Worth 2
Rares are worth 3-4
Very Rares are 5-10+ Depending
oMGSR hasn't been considered yet loll

2016/2017 - plus 0
2015 - plus 1
2014 - plus 2
Etc. Until 2009
2009 - Plus 10
2008 - Plus 15

Hoard Pets - Plus 1
Wishlist - Plus 1

Additionally, as very little people used it -- art and writing are no longer redeemable for Halos.

There is now a limit on how many Cherub Cats one can own. That limit is 5. I don't want Cherub Cat collecting to become a thing, and I will make sure of it. This limit may seem pretty harsh, but it can be raised one of three ways.
---1) Purchasing extra ownership slots for 160 Halos apiece. (That's $5 USD or 80 C$ for those who are counting)
---2) Having a Featured Cherub Cat of the Month (+1 Ownership Slot)
---3) I will be handing out extra ownership slots to those who have shown themselves to be quite invested / active in the community and are appreciative of the ones they currently own.


For something on the brighter side, Featured Cherub Cat of the Month will be happening! I have to get this month's ready to go, but we will be featuring one Cherub Cat whose owner has done (or gotten) art of their Cherub Cat and has shown significant interest and activity levels in Cherub Cats.

My questions to you folk are simple - what systems do you prefer? Would you prefer to be able to just buy the ones you really want? Or do you like filling out forms? I'll give you a few options to choose from, as I'm throwing out a lot of questions to you - but please provide feedback as much as you want.

Would you prefer to....
A) Just buy the Cherub Cats you want.
B) Fill out forms, do tryout art, etc. Similar to most Oekaki adopts.
C) Have a mix. Do some form adopts, some adopts are buyable.

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There are going to be a lot of posts / updates from me in the next few days as I sort out the Oekaki section of Cherub Cats, work up the new system, work on customs, and release the new build as promised. Cherub Cats isn't shutting down, and I'm not mad at any single person. I am very passionate about Cherub Cats, and I am refusing to let it die.

I support this! I would have tryrd to join this but I found it a bit hard to get a starting point and find out how to work this but I'ld love to see them become more popular!

eedit: I needz mez onez of those aqua Kitties!

[Kydashing]

Yes i agree, totally a fan! Need me a mermaid fish kitty in my life! And it makes alot of sense in the world of Cherub cats because of lore and magic! Anything is possible~

[kiwipen]

Hey there Wolfy! I will let you know Cherub Cats is soon moving to the Oekaki, and you should be able to get one pretty easily there

@Kydashing
@Asher
@Wolfy

The Aquatic Build auction will be held the 15th C:

[allium]

Yes i agree, totally a fan! Need me a mermaid fish kitty in my life! And it makes alot of sense in the world of Cherub cats because of lore and magic! Anything is possible~

Ahhh I couldn't have said it better myself! Who wouldn't want a mermaid fish kitty? <3
I'm really looking forward to that auction!

[persay]

Hey there Wolfy! I will let you know Cherub Cats is soon moving to the Oekaki, and you should be able to get one pretty easily there

@Kydashing
@Asher
@Wolfy

The Aquatic Build auction will be held the 15th C:

Yo Ry(Can I call you that?) this is gonna be the start of a bootful adoption and friendship! I can tell and yay SOON!

[kiwipen]

You may call me that, yes! C: