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Re: We've updated our pet rarity measurements!

Postby ellyenchanted » Sat Aug 11, 2012 8:51 am

teddyrosa wrote:
Hekomi wrote:Couple quotes for you guys asking about dates. Keep in mind I am not supreme and almighty like Tess and Nick so my guesses are just as good as anyone else's, but dates do still matter.


This definitely helps, but I still have one question:
Say a rat from 2010 and a rat from 2012 have the same rarity bar and the same demand. Let's also say that there are only around 6000 of each of them on this site (meaning their numbers are the same as well). How much does date value actually go into deciding whether it's fair or not?


Technically thats fair unless you value dates highly, i guess.
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Re: We've updated our pet rarity measurements!

Postby Hekomi » Sat Aug 11, 2012 8:52 am

teddyrosa wrote:
Hekomi wrote:Couple quotes for you guys asking about dates. Keep in mind I am not supreme and almighty like Tess and Nick so my guesses are just as good as anyone else's, but dates do still matter.


This definitely helps, but I still have one question:
Say a rat from 2010 and a rat from 2012 have the same rarity bar and the same demand. Let's also say that there are only around 6000 of each of them on this site (meaning their numbers are the same as well). How much does date value actually go into deciding whether it's fair or not?

Well look at some of the '09/'10 pets that are on the rares list; it's the same sort of thing. If they're both even swaps [and it's obvious enough they are] I would still swap them. Dates are still important, especially with older pets, but I wouldn't worry too much. That's when you head to the FTT and ask someone for a hand.
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Re: We've updated our pet rarity measurements!

Postby NushiSushi » Sat Aug 11, 2012 8:52 am

Thanks so much Nick! I've never had a very common and it always struck me as odd when it seemed like there were more uncommons than commons and very commons. One thing though: I only had one very rare pet and after the rarity changes, it went down to rare! So now I have no very rares :( Great idea, though!
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Re: We've updated our pet rarity measurements!

Postby nickjr » Sat Aug 11, 2012 8:52 am

For those of you wondering how often rarities are going to change:

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So when the pets grow up their rarity's co0me up right away? Or is it just when it gets on the archive..?

as before, it should be that rarity gets updated about once a month, near the end once all the monthly pets have been adopted. This month it looks like we accidentally jumped the gun and put rarities up on the grown pets, but those might change a little by the end of the month when we update again (since more will have been adopted by then)
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Re: We've updated our pet rarity measurements!

Postby Birdy » Sat Aug 11, 2012 8:53 am

Hekomi wrote:
teddyrosa wrote:
Hekomi wrote:Couple quotes for you guys asking about dates. Keep in mind I am not supreme and almighty like Tess and Nick so my guesses are just as good as anyone else's, but dates do still matter.


This definitely helps, but I still have one question:
Say a rat from 2010 and a rat from 2012 have the same rarity bar and the same demand. Let's also say that there are only around 6000 of each of them on this site (meaning their numbers are the same as well). How much does date value actually go into deciding whether it's fair or not?

Well look at some of the '09/'10 pets that are on the rares list; it's the same sort of thing. If they're both even swaps [and it's obvious enough they are] I would still swap them. Dates are still important, especially with older pets, but I wouldn't worry too much. That's when you head to the FTT and ask someone for a hand.

So I guess it's just an opinion thing, then? Personally, in that situation, I would still value the older pet a little more (not too horribly, though) just out of respect for the fact that it is quite a bit older. I just wanted to check what other people thought ^^

Edit: Just thought I'd add that it's a good point you brought up about the 09's/10's on the Rares List....didn't think of that!
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Re: We've updated our pet rarity measurements!

Postby Tess » Sat Aug 11, 2012 8:53 am

teddyrosa wrote:
Hekomi wrote:Couple quotes for you guys asking about dates. Keep in mind I am not supreme and almighty like Tess and Nick so my guesses are just as good as anyone else's, but dates do still matter.


This definitely helps, but I still have one question:
Say a rat from 2010 and a rat from 2012 have the same rarity bar and the same demand. Let's also say that there are only around 6000 of each of them on this site (meaning their numbers are the same as well). How much does date value actually go into deciding whether it's fair or not?

If there are about 6000 of each within the active trading population then they should be reasonably similar in value. The disparity comes due to the fact that if a pet is older, chances are that some of the people holding onto it aren't playing anymore. Or everyone who wants it already has one as part of their permanent collection and isn't willing to trade it anymore, since the new pets move around a lot more than old pets. This also makes it harder to trade for, so the perceived trading value could be higher.
So dates are still important.
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Re: We've updated our pet rarity measurements!

Postby Hoof » Sat Aug 11, 2012 8:54 am

nickjr wrote:For those of you wondering how often rarities are going to change:

Tess wrote:
~Mabel Pines~ wrote:(omg people are talking to tess and she's responding!)
So when the pets grow up their rarity's co0me up right away? Or is it just when it gets on the archive..?

as before, it should be that rarity gets updated about once a month, near the end once all the monthly pets have been adopted. This month it looks like we accidentally jumped the gun and put rarities up on the grown pets, but those might change a little by the end of the month when we update again (since more will have been adopted by then)


Thanks for posting this! I seemed to have missed it!
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Re: We've updated our pet rarity measurements!

Postby Birdy » Sat Aug 11, 2012 8:56 am

Tess wrote:
teddyrosa wrote:
Hekomi wrote:Couple quotes for you guys asking about dates. Keep in mind I am not supreme and almighty like Tess and Nick so my guesses are just as good as anyone else's, but dates do still matter.


This definitely helps, but I still have one question:
Say a rat from 2010 and a rat from 2012 have the same rarity bar and the same demand. Let's also say that there are only around 6000 of each of them on this site (meaning their numbers are the same as well). How much does date value actually go into deciding whether it's fair or not?

If there are about 6000 of each within the active trading population then they should be reasonably similar in value. The disparity comes due to the fact that if a pet is older, chances are that some of the people holding onto it aren't playing anymore. Or everyone who wants it already has one as part of their permanent collection and isn't willing to trade it anymore, since the new pets move around a lot more than old pets. This also makes it harder to trade for, so the perceived trading value could be higher.
So dates are still important.

Makes sense....I was just curious. Thanks for all of the responses, guys! I love the update, and think it's very nicely done...especially the newest rarity! Love it! :)
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Re: We've updated our pet rarity measurements!

Postby Brooketail » Sat Aug 11, 2012 8:57 am

Tess wrote:
teddyrosa wrote:
Hekomi wrote:Couple quotes for you guys asking about dates. Keep in mind I am not supreme and almighty like Tess and Nick so my guesses are just as good as anyone else's, but dates do still matter.


This definitely helps, but I still have one question:
Say a rat from 2010 and a rat from 2012 have the same rarity bar and the same demand. Let's also say that there are only around 6000 of each of them on this site (meaning their numbers are the same as well). How much does date value actually go into deciding whether it's fair or not?

If there are about 6000 of each within the active trading population then they should be reasonably similar in value. The disparity comes due to the fact that if a pet is older, chances are that some of the people holding onto it aren't playing anymore. Or everyone who wants it already has one as part of their permanent collection and isn't willing to trade it anymore, since the new pets move around a lot more than old pets. This also makes it harder to trade for, so the perceived trading value could be higher.
So dates are still important.




Wow....That's a good explanation! It makes a lot of sense too! That clears something up for me too! :D
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Re: We've updated our pet rarity measurements!

Postby elder price » Sat Aug 11, 2012 9:00 am

Lol. I'm a bit disappointed about most of my pets being common now, even though they never really were rares, but it still made me feel good... :lol:
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