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Re: Lights On Lights Off Fanclub

Postby The Lady Amalthea » Thu Nov 01, 2018 11:54 pm

Rainbow Dash wrote:I got plenty of visitors with creative costumes but the return rate personally was pretty disappointing for me. Out of all the PMs I sent maybe a third would get answered with anything. And this is the first year I have gotten treats accepted without a thank you.

I get that people get busy so you're not gonna hit 100% but even then my rate of replies was super low. Unfortunately I really don't see myself participating next year barring any efforts to encourage people to reply or keep lights on.

It's so rude I gave someone a gift and it was wish list but was items and try replied thanks....i guess. How rude! It was so annoying i would rather they didn't say thank you than get a thanks I guess like it sounds ungrateful
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Re: Lights On Lights Off Fanclub

Postby L U C I F E R » Fri Nov 02, 2018 12:03 am

The Lady Amalthea wrote:
Rainbow Dash wrote:I got plenty of visitors with creative costumes but the return rate personally was pretty disappointing for me. Out of all the PMs I sent maybe a third would get answered with anything. And this is the first year I have gotten treats accepted without a thank you.

I get that people get busy so you're not gonna hit 100% but even then my rate of replies was super low. Unfortunately I really don't see myself participating next year barring any efforts to encourage people to reply or keep lights on.

It's so rude I gave someone a gift and it was wish list but was items and try replied thanks....i guess. How rude! It was so annoying i would rather they didn't say thank you than get a thanks I guess like it sounds ungrateful


I'm still replying to the ones I have left but I also had so many people reply with just 'Thanks' or even nothing when I gifted them wishlist pets, sometimes even rares!
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Re: Lights On Lights Off Fanclub

Postby Fizzy-Pop » Fri Nov 02, 2018 12:36 am

I agree that those ungrateful replies are rude. I think it kills the fun of the game because it is nice see poeple loving your gifts and then seeing they put no effort to show that they are grateful for your treat, it kinda heart breaking seeing that your treat wasn't good enough to please them even though you gift a rare or a old pet. I only came across one person like that and the thought that came into mind was "guess who is going to be on my trick list next year.." I think it would be nice if there is a rule to sort out that rudeness.

But igoring that I did have fun especially when you don't get trick or treaters at your door in real life and I am grateful for the poeple helping my pet and items WL smaller! I got a lot of items off my item WL and two hoards completed and my unlimited hoards bigger thanks to the treats and to the poeple who gave them!
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Re: Lights On Lights Off Fanclub

Postby L U C I F E R » Fri Nov 02, 2018 12:44 am

Other than my more recent trades (I've run out of time due to school), all of my trade messages were a personalised story and I often gave large bulls or one really good pet and it just felt a bit dismissive and upsetting how people sometimes responded.
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Re: Lights On Lights Off Fanclub

Postby Monomares » Fri Nov 02, 2018 1:10 am

    While it can be disappointing receiving such a response, instantly assuming they are ungrateful is not the best way to go about things. They may just be busy, or simply don't know how to respond. Try to focus on the positive! Not everyone has time to have flushed out trade responses (myself included!)

    Let's turn to more positive talk, if we can. Did you see any costumes you really liked? Or maybe a story you couldn't help but read again?
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Re: Lights On Lights Off Fanclub

Postby Dragonswan » Fri Nov 02, 2018 2:36 am

The Lonely God wrote:
    Did you see any costumes you really liked? Or maybe a story you couldn't help but read again?


I think my favorite would have to be the player with the headless horseman dress up. That was so well done! I saw so many imaginative costumes and stories though!
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Re: Lights On Lights Off Fanclub

Postby popping star » Fri Nov 02, 2018 2:54 am

    One of my favorite 'stories' I've received is actually a trick message!
    It was a very humorous response, so I couldn't help but save it~
    I enjoy trick messages just as much as the trick-or-treater stories, honestly.
    It's just really neat seeing how creative the community is. c:
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Re: Lights On Lights Off Fanclub

Postby Celozon » Fri Nov 02, 2018 3:00 am

Rainbow Dash wrote:I got plenty of visitors with creative costumes but the return rate personally was pretty disappointing for me. Out of all the PMs I sent maybe a third would get answered with anything. And this is the first year I have gotten treats accepted without a thank you.

I get that people get busy so you're not gonna hit 100% but even then my rate of replies was super low. Unfortunately I really don't see myself participating next year barring any efforts to encourage people to reply or keep lights on.


I'd like to reply to this since its something I hear often. Apologies for how this is this going to get, I like to try and explain things as fully as possible.

If you have an idea of how to do this without restricting gameplay, please tell me because I would absolutely love to hear it. Its a complaint I hear every year but so far I've found no way I am supposed to enforce this type of thing without cutting out people from playing, or imposing rules that are going to make people unwilling to play.

Specifically, the problem of how to approach the problem of users who are playing who do not give out any gifts. Either by never turning their lights on or by turning their lights on but never responding or only giving tricks. I have been asked many times to stop these users from playing. My problem with this is that I cannot prove that they never turned their lights on, or did not respond to anyone when they did have their lights on. It is impossible for me to moderate this and no system I can think of would be foolproof in that manner. I even played with the idea of having players give me their lists of who they visited or who responded to them, etc. But those wouldn't prove they never got any visitors.

Which brings me to the next point. Some people are just busy and can't play very much. Unfortunately this year I've been extremely busy this month and with lolo piled on top I only turned on my lights a few times, and I still have pms I need to reply to. I only got a few trick or treaters. To many players it looks like I never turned on my lights. Some of these users that never turned on their lights could easily just be busy and didn't have the time. Maybe they only got a handful of trick or treaters, or they planning on playing but ended up not having the time. What about new players who just joined, and don't have any spare pets? Should I be banning them from playing because they never turned on their lights? How much am I supposed to restrict who can play and who can't? Even if I could prove who has had their lights on, or who gave out gifts, we don't know the reason behind why that happened. How many legitimate players will I be driving away to get rid of those taking advantage of the game?

But what my real dilemma boils down to is this: Am I supposed to force players to give out gifts. Because that is the basis of what is being asked. That I ensure that users who are playing do not just take and never give. Speaking personally, I don't really consider something to be a gift if they are being forced to give it. And a lot of what I've done with LOLO has been done to ensure that users don't feel they are being forced to give gifts. Yes, giving gifts is the point of the game, and yes I do find it horrible that some players use this game just for free pets, but I still have objections to forcing people to give out gifts, in any manner. Just beyond the fact that I do not have any means of knowing if players are giving out gifts or not, its still a question of if I should enforce rules that will be forcing players to give out gifts. And honestly, if they were forced to give out gifts we all know they would just do the bare minimum and then continue to do what they already have been, and it won't get rid of them.

It absolutely does frustrate me that users take advantage of this game, and they just see it as a way to get free stuff and never give anything. But unfortunately, I think thats just the nature of CS, of the playerbase here. To put this into perspective, I first encountered LOLO on Wajas. They had no rules, no regulations, you didn't even have to write a story. It didn't need any rules, players there did it on their own without being forced to. I tried that the first year I brought LOLO to CS and was very much proven that the CS playerbase is nothing like the Waja's playerbase c': Before I made it a rule to write a story, almost no one did. Before I put in a lot of the rules, we had a lot more players (ie. In the thousands. Now we average 500-600). I imagine a lot of those users quit because it was no longer easy to just get free pets. I get told all the time that there are too many rules. My point is, at some point it may need to be accepted that part of this is just the nature of the CS playerbase.

Whether you want to continue playing because of this is your choice. I fully understand not wanted to play because of this. I prefer to look at it more in that way that LOLO creates positive interaction between players, who get to share their creativity with each other and give out free pets on the side. I really enjoy getting to bring together a small community each year who for a short time can share and interact with people who under normal circumstances would never talk to one another. I like to think that LOLO brings a lot more positive than a few people taking advantage of the game can take away. As long as it has that I will still have a reason to run LOLO.
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Re: Lights On Lights Off Fanclub

Postby BlueEyedKite » Fri Nov 02, 2018 3:50 am

This is my first year actually giving LOLO a shot. I think what helped me have a good time was setting my expectations low. I had a lot of trade fodder so my only goal was to give away as much of my doubles as I could so I would feel like a positive member of CS rather than a typical hoarder account. Beyond that anything else was icing on the cake.

I didn't expect much, but I got many users who showed so much excitement for a couple of uncommons on their wishlist. It really put into perspective for me how even small gestures can touch people. I've come away from this LOLO feeling great and maybe part of that is I didn't actively look to see if someone's lights were on or not. As a pure giver I had the luxury of everyone coming to me, so I didn't have to see the problems some of you mention with users not having their lights on.

If you're thinking about quitting LOLO, why not try out next year as just a giver? Embrace the role as someone who gives out treats and maybe a few tricks. I've found way more happiness in this role. If you don't have a lot of trade fodder I racked up pets from the free pets forum. You can start now and have a hoard for the masses by next year c:

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Re: Lights On Lights Off Fanclub

Postby mrgbmommy » Fri Nov 02, 2018 6:34 am

I personally didn't see a lot of players w/out lights on/off signs, some were hard to find (possibly impossible on mobile). And while it seemed some never turned their lights on, I figured it was simply different time zones and I missed them. I visited about half the list and had more than half visit me. LOLO is one of my favorite things on CS. I love seeing everyone's creative dress ups and reading some great stories! The treats are really just a nice bonus to the PMs I got to see and read.
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Whether you want to continue playing because of this is your choice. I fully understand not wanted to play because of this. I prefer to look at it more in that way that LOLO creates positive interaction between players, who get to share their creativity with each other and give out free pets on the side. I really enjoy getting to bring together a small community each year who for a short time can share and interact with people who under normal circumstances would never talk to one another. I like to think that LOLO brings a lot more positive than a few people taking advantage of the game can take away. As long as it has that I will still have a reason to run LOLO.

Thank you Cel for explaining things. c:
I will admit the players that collect their treats from me without responding to my PM is a bit upsetting (it really bothered me last year), but it's not enough to make me not want to play. This year I noticed some of the same people not answering my PM that didn't answer last year. I'd love to believe that I'll keep track and make sure to not send my PM to them, and send a trick if they come trick or treating to me next year...but I know I wont. It's too much work and too negative of an attitude for me to have during an activity i participate in for fun and happiness.



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