Middle Earth! {Lord of the Rings & The Hobbit} V4

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Re: Middle Earth! {Lord of the Rings & The Hobbit} V4

Postby Nemraeg Taog » Wed Jun 04, 2014 12:35 pm

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And as for my opinion on the 3rd Hobbit movie's title change, from "There and Back Again" to "The Battle of the Five Armies":
I was a bit disappointed at first, to say the least, but it does seem the more suiting title. Don't clench your fists and drag your heels in the dust just yet! Allow me to explain. Though the title "There and Back Again" sounds more appropriate to the closing film of a series, once you step back and view all three titles "There and Back Again" does sound a bit misplaced. Taken in context, this title could really encompass the whole 3 movies from start to finish. Come to think of it, Tolkien originally intended "There and Back Again" as the title of Bilbo's entire adventure, not just the ending of it.
Some would argue that the title "The Battle of the Five Armies" sounds too narrowed-down in relation to the various happenings that will take place in the movie. I can see where you're coming from there. I thought this at first too. However, I cannot think of a more suiting title for this film. The film series is about to climax. Although some might say that Smaug's death is a key event, and it very well is, we've already dubbed the second film as "The Desolation of Smaug". Other key events? There's Lake-Town and her people... the Lonely Mountain's treasure... the Arkenstone... indeed. But, in my opinion, those things aren't principle enough to be the main focus of the movie's title. The battle of the five armies is where the clouds burst, where tragedy strikes, and where tension is eventually resolved. Just take into thought all of what happens during and after the battle of the five armies. It's more than just a silly little battle and it has a great effect on each of the Middle-Earth races involved. Especially for the dwarves.
It's also easily recognizable for those who have read the books, just as the past two movie titles have been. You really don't want to go with some elaborate movie title that is vague or misleading. (Not that "There and Back Again" was all that bad, but if somebody was to suggest an entirely different title I would argue this point.)
With all that taken into account, I think "The Battle of the Five Armies" is a fitting title.
Any additional thoughts?


I do agree with most of your points on why the name was changed to what it is. However, my issue isn't that the title "There and Back Again" was changed, but that it was changed to "The Battle of the Five Armies"; Although,I cannot think of anything better off the top of my head (I will edit this if I think of something befitting later on). The main reason I have an issue with it (as with most of The Hobbit movies thus far) is that it is far too focused on the action of a scene rather than the development of it. To me it seems that the title is putting complete focus on the battle, whereas it really wasn't all too important within the book (don't get me wrong, though, I understand what importance it has). By doing such a thing they have made it so that most of the audience will be expecting a grand and epic battle scene that will last a good portion of the movie, at least where most things will happen within it. My biggest problem with this is that it will more than likely detract from the points about the battle that made it important. However, this is just my speculation of what PJ will do with the movie (and I sure hope I am wrong on that). Nothing can be definitive on this, though, until the movie is released and seen (hopefully I find someone who will be willing to pay for me since I certainly won't be paying for myself to go see it...). Anyhow! That is just my thoughts and concerns with the title change. I do hope I illustrated what I meant properly through what I said.


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Re: Middle Earth! {Lord of the Rings & The Hobbit} V4

Postby Wild Mothman » Wed Jun 04, 2014 3:06 pm

Battle of five armies,
yeah.
not sure about that
because the movie basically has to be bookended by two rather big events
the destruction of Laketown and smaug's death
and the battle of five armies
as well as trying to tie everything off.
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Re: Middle Earth! {Lord of the Rings & The Hobbit} V4

Postby Trphlthdl » Thu Jun 12, 2014 1:16 am

I really don't care what the title is as long as the movie was well done. They could name the last one "The Hobbit: pink unicorns fight flying rainbow monkeys" and i wouldn't care as long as it was still the end of the hobbit story (not that i want it to end).
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Re: Middle Earth! {Lord of the Rings & The Hobbit} V4

Postby Nemraeg Taog » Thu Jun 19, 2014 12:50 pm

So, I thought I would share this for those like me who don't enjoy PJ's adaptation of The Hobbit. hehe

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Re: Middle Earth! {Lord of the Rings & The Hobbit} V4

Postby Greenleaf » Wed Jul 09, 2014 1:40 am

Does anybody have any idea when the Battle of Five Armies trailer is coming out? Last year's trailer came during mid-June, so I've no idea when PJ's going to release the new one.
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Re: Middle Earth! {Lord of the Rings & The Hobbit} V4

Postby JourneyMaster » Thu Jul 10, 2014 4:59 am

Hi guys!! It's been a LONG time. What's been happening here on CS?

I've been working on my elvish writing but I'm still not very good :/ and don't even get me started on how much harder speaking it is!

Oh, and my brother and I had a medieval themed birthday party! It was EPIC! There was tons of people in costume, shield making, jousting, capture the flag, and lots more. I'll tell you more later :)
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Re: Middle Earth! {Lord of the Rings & The Hobbit} V4

Postby Nemraeg Taog » Sat Jul 12, 2014 8:23 am

Elwing wrote:Hi guys!! It's been a LONG time. What's been happening here on CS?

I've been working on my elvish writing but I'm still not very good :/ and don't even get me started on how much harder speaking it is!

Oh, and my brother and I had a medieval themed birthday party! It was EPIC! There was tons of people in costume, shield making, jousting, capture the flag, and lots more. I'll tell you more later :)


Hey there! Absolutely nothing has been happening in this thread. Haha.

Goodness! I remember tryin to learn to speak Sindarin and write in Tengwar. Funnily enough, I just found the Tengwar alphabet on a piece of paper I copied it onto years ago. :P

That birthday sounds like it was tons of fun!! I wish I did anything half as exciting as that. xD Happy belated birthday to you and your brother! (:
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Re: Middle Earth! {Lord of the Rings & The Hobbit} V4

Postby Greenleaf » Sun Jul 13, 2014 3:03 am

Suilad, Elwing! :D welcome back to the thread! *tackle hugs*

Don't worry about the Elvish, because at least you're making progress!; I've been getting extraordinarily rusty with it the past year, especially after my most recent obsession with Pirates of the Caribbean. :P I should be getting back on track, I suppose...

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Re: Middle Earth! {Lord of the Rings & The Hobbit} V4

Postby нana ѕong » Sun Jul 13, 2014 3:44 am

Haha i havnt posted here in FOREVER it feels like...Not much i can say though xD But i seriously canNOT wait for the last movie. I havnt read the book *just couldnt get past the writing style >_>* but i like the movies for the most part
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Re: Middle Earth! {Lord of the Rings & The Hobbit} V4

Postby Greenleaf » Mon Aug 04, 2014 11:38 am

So the new teaser trailer came out for the Battle of Five Armies. I have mixed feelings on it, and will add my input later after I've thought about it.
But what do you guys think?
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