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Postby COOLCH13 » Thu May 30, 2024 4:59 am

Hi.
I'm COOLCH13,
This is just my Think Tank. Nothing special.


Please do not post on this thread.
I still need to move this thread to where ever it might fit best.


Hope we get along. Thanks for stopping by.
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Re: I'm New Here. Let's Chat?

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Re: I'm New Here. Let's Chat?

Postby comfypxl » Fri May 31, 2024 3:26 pm

    welcome to the site!

    how to get the most out of the game is a bit subjective i think. it mostly depends on what you're interested in!

    if you love the pets and want a challenge, getting into the trading scene is fun c: i found that the best way to start is to set a goal for yourself (ex. collect every bat, collect pets that look like my irl animals, etc) and start from there. once you have a goal in mind and something to work towards, trading becomes a lot more interesting. if that starts to get boring, you can always look into the "big leagues" with list pets and urs!

    lots of folks love art and characters, so you should can also checkout the closed species. there are oekaki-based species (found here) or off-oekaki based species (found here). they usually have a community centered around them that you can interact with too c:

    speaking of interacting, i find that the best places to chat are either discord servers (found here) or checking out the "general" forums (forum -> general). there are lots of threads you can find for specific topics, whether it's talking about college or your favorite tv series.

    from my personal experience, joining a cs-centered discord server has been a massive help. i feel a lot more connected not only to the site, but to the community. people have been very welcoming and friendly so it felt easy to chat without stress of being judged. getting help with trades isn't so bad either lol
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Re: I'm New Here. Let's Chat?

Postby COOLCH13 » Fri May 31, 2024 11:49 pm

ursachuu wrote:
    welcome to the site!

    how to get the most out of the game is a bit subjective i think. it mostly depends on what you're interested in!

    if you love the pets and want a challenge, getting into the trading scene is fun c: i found that the best way to start is to set a goal for yourself (ex. collect every bat, collect pets that look like my irl animals, etc) and start from there. once you have a goal in mind and something to work towards, trading becomes a lot more interesting. if that starts to get boring, you can always look into the "big leagues" with list pets and urs!

    lots of folks love art and characters, so you should can also checkout the closed species. there are oekaki-based species (found here) or off-oekaki based species (found here). they usually have a community centered around them that you can interact with too c:

    speaking of interacting, i find that the best places to chat are either discord servers (found here) or checking out the "general" forums (forum -> general). there are lots of threads you can find for specific topics, whether it's talking about college or your favorite tv series.

    from my personal experience, joining a cs-centered discord server has been a massive help. i feel a lot more connected not only to the site, but to the community. people have been very welcoming and friendly so it felt easy to chat without stress of being judged. getting help with trades isn't so bad either lol


That's super helpful! I love art so I will for sure look into those forums and see what I can fit into thank you! I look forward to drawing for people. I just need to figure out how to price my art for CS items and pets. Still trying to understand the rarity system haha
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Re: I'm New Here. Let's Chat?

Postby Shiny_MaineCoon » Fri May 31, 2024 11:52 pm

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Re: I'm New Here. Let's Chat?

Postby COOLCH13 » Fri May 31, 2024 11:53 pm

Shiny_MaineCoon wrote:Welcome!


Thank you so much! I've seen you around haha! Hope your trades and bidding go well ๐Ÿ‘
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Re: I'm New Here. Let's Chat?

Postby COOLCH13 » Sat Jun 01, 2024 3:26 am

Note to self: 2:1 Rule
(Also PPSS and realistic colours can create better demand)

ursachuu wrote:
    demand is something you'll learn as you trade and see what people are usually looking for. it does fluctuate for somethings so keeping up with it can be difficult, but worth it. for example, the 2024 rainbow bwolf had crazy high demand when it was released. people were selling it for up to 60c$. two days after the rarity was released however, it became just another rare with regular demand (5c$ basically).

    when it comes to the 2:1, it's mostly up to you. i've traded 2015 pets for a 2018 just because i really wanted it. if you want to stick to the rule though, you would keep doubling. for example:
    1 2019 uncommon = 10 2024 uncommons
    1 2019 uncommon = 8 2023 uncommons
    1 2019 uncommon = 6 2022 uncommons
    1 2019 uncommon = 4 2021 uncommons
    1 2019 uncommon = 2 2020 uncommons

    if you want a quick math cheat, you would do 2024-2019 which is 5 and then do 5x2 which is 10.


Note to Self: Malk Pets
(They were super nice)

Soul_MyHeroAcademia wrote:
Usually with older rares I use the 2 for one (if you have a 2010 rare, I try to trade 2 2011 rares. If you had a 2011 rare I'd trade 2 2012 rares). Usually doesn't work with certain Pets, such as this dog, since Malk is normally in good demand due to designs! So I'm offering a 2009 rare for that 2010 Malk dog, plus a few extras since I personally will always overpay for Malk pets.

2010 Rares are roughly 20-30 C$ at the moment. Uptodate Store pets are worth 20C$ per, (2024 and 2023 stores are roughly 20-25 C$. and 2022 Stores are roughly 30-40C$.)
So you can easily get 2024 or 2023 stores on a base rating (given that other people don't price them higher because the enjoy the look of the pet and such. People do tend to make their own prices!).

Can I get a Store Pet from a Malk?
The only stores I'm trading right now fron my collections are the 4 right here. I could give you one of these and 10 C$ or I can give you around 35 pure C$ which you can browse around with. Just let me know if any of these intrigues you, but I hope I helped in the slightest!
Don't worry if you don't want either of my offers and you want to look around with other players more!

Getting a VR from a Rare?
You definitely could! Probably no Absolutely "amazing" very rares, Since this particular Malk isn't one of the highly sought-after dogs (such as valentines pps, green malk dog, and such other malk dogs).
Most people probably won't trade up a tag unless, as I said before, it's not a particularly "rare" pet (not by rarity tag, but you get what I mean). It's not Very rare sitting cat, or dragon, or malk fox, etc. but it have a very rare tag. Usually If you want a VR tagged pet for a 2010 rare, you'd be getting like a 2011/2012 VR, since a 2010 VR is over that 2010R worth

Is the best trade I should accept for the Malk Pet a Store Pet?
I believe so, yes. Just because Store pets raise in worth faster than other pets. (Granted, it will take years for any pet to rise in worth). Like for example, I have a 2012 Store pet worth 1MA (Or roughly 10 old 2011-2009 rares., equaled out to about 250-350C$ worth!)
Best bet is to gather a bunch of old rares and trade up for a store pet you really like, If you are looking for an older store pet.

Purple 2008 Dog?
Most 2008 pets are either just rare pets or "list pets". I believe that isn't a list and just a rare, so it goes for roughly 30-45C$.
List pets are the highest worth pets, and theyre thrown onto the "high-tier list", or as we call them, "List pets".

1MA?
As for the 1non/1MA/.5MA/.5non thing - I'm still getting used to it as well. I can send a couple of things that I use to help! I'll send a quick PM!


Guide to Rarity

Soul_MyHeroAcademia wrote:2008/2009 Rares are around 30-45C$, depending on species or design
2010/2011 Rares are around 20-30C$, depending on species or design
2012 Rares are around 18-22C$, depending on species or design
2013/2014 Rares are around 15-18C$, depending on species or design
2015/2016 Rares are around 10-15C$, depending on species or design
2017/2018 Rares are around 7-9C$, depending on species or design
2019-2021 Rares are around 6-7C$, depending on species or design
2022 or Newer Rares are around 5C$


Regular 2008/2009 Very Rares are around 50-100C$, depending on species or design
Regular 2010/2011 Very Rares are around 40-60C$, depending on species or design
Regular 2012 Very Rares are around 40-45C$, depending on species or design
Regular 2013/2014 Very Rares are around 30-40C$, depending on species or design
Regular 2015/2016 Very Rares are around 20-30C$, depending on species or design
Regular 2017/2018 Very Rares are around 15-20C$, depending on species or design
Regular 2019-2021 Very Rares are around 12-15C$, depending on species or design
Regular 2022 or Newer Very Rares are around **10-15C$



STORE PET VALUES:
last updated 12/20/2023

2023-2024: 1 old rare (20-25 C$)
2020-2022: 1 old rare (30-40 C$)
2018-2019: 2 old rares

2017
Feather Dragons, Carnival Lions, Adult Fairy Foxes, Fluffy PPS, Adult Gryphon Lions: 3-4 Old Rares
Fairy Fox PPS, Gryphon PPS, Cloudy Tree Dogs: 0.5 MA

2016
Tigers, Flying Dogs, Mustelids/Ferrets, Adult Cheetahs, Adult Unicorns: 0.5 MA
Dinosaurs, Cheetah PPS, Tiger PPS, Unicorn PPS: 1 MA

2015
Halo BWolves, Adult Manticores, Scaly PPS, Unicorns: 0.5 MA
Manticore PPS, Stripetail Critters, Store Deer (except exclusive): 1 MA
Store Deer: 1 MA (Rainbow Bow/Set Exclusive Deer): 1.5 MA

2014
Koi Dogs, Calgreyhounds, Robo Cats, Grown Dragon Cats, Goldfish Dogs: 0.5 MA
Origami Star, Realistic Dog Breeds, Sakura Tree Dog: 1 MA
Dragon Cat PPS: Up to 1 non

2013
Fairy Rats, Alpacas, Phoenix Dogs, Mythological Dogs: 1 MA
Corgis: 1.5 MA
Kitsunes: 2-2.5 MA

2012
Alien Dogs, Fluffy Dogs, Kirins, Fairy Goat Dogs, Jackalopes, Wonderland BWolves: 1 MA
Cheshire Cat: 5 MA

2011
Gryphon Dogs, Seahorses, Forest Guardians, Carousel Horses: 2 MA
Basilisks: 2.5 MA
Arabians: Range from 2.5 to 5 MA
Clydesdale: 5 MA

2010
Seal PPS: 7.5 MA
Red Cerberus, Raven: 6 nons
Brown/Store Sleipnir: 3 nons
Wingless Androids, Pink/Blue/Orange Punks: 5 MA
Green Android: 1 non
Lolita, Clockwork: 1.5 nons
Patchwork: 2 nons
Marionette: 2 nons

2009
Liontails: 3 nons
Eat Me: 5 nons
Drink Me: 6 nons
Orange Cerberus, Skelebun: 8-10 nons, varies heavily due to not being traded often



List Value Master Conversion
1 NON = 10 MA = 100 Old R = 1800-2000C$
7.5 MA = 75 Old Rares
5 MA = 50 Old Rares
2.5 MA = 25 Old Rares
2 MA = 20 Old Rares
1.5 MA = 15 Old Rares
1 MA = 10 Old Rares = 250-350C$

Old = 2010/2011


BlackDiamonds wrote:BlackDiamonds has offered to trade with you! You can view the trade now in your trading center.

BlackDiamonds included this message with the offer:
Sorry i just realized that you had one rare too many so here.
09 rares = 2 old rares.
2010 VR's = 2 old rares
and then the rest are just normal ones. Again sorry. I didn't realize that you put the vr and both 09s in that's why lol. Here! Thanks for the trade!

This trade was meant to = 12 Old Rares '10/'11 so they returned an '11 Old Rares since it was 13 Here in THIS TRADE
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Re: I'm New Here. This is my Think Tank

Postby COOLCH13 » Fri Jun 07, 2024 12:47 pm

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Re: Organizer

Postby COOLCH13 » Fri Jun 07, 2024 12:47 pm

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Bellarocks123a wrote:Hello again!

I made this document to split it into the separate segments I'm seeing.

Reg VR is just the term Horror uses for not tiered VRs as shown here. The 3 R to VR + small add is only for that T8 Line 4 so it's only applicable to those pets, typically 2009 or 2010 pets, so the '22 example doesn't apply.

I'm happy to post this trade in the fair trade thread to get some other opinions as well, but I totally understand if this is just becoming a bit too much of a headache and you'd rather forget about it.

If you agree with the first "segment" I'm seeing of your dog for my 2 VRs, I'd be happy to trade just that, knock out the more complex/confusing bit of your cat for my side





I thought you had been offering only 4x Pets this whole time, my bad for misunderstanding. In our chats you said..

CONTEXT

Bellarocks123a (From the trade we have) wrote:From Horror's guide, it looks like your side is worth 2 '08-'11 VRs for the dog and 1 regular OR VR plus a small add for the cat. On my side the ragdoll and dog should cover the 2 '08-'11 VRs, and I'd be happy to do one of the store pets as the 1 regular OR VR plus the re-release rare as the small add. If my value math is wrong please let me know!

Bellarocks123a (From earlier DMs wrote:The ragdoll on my side is just a regular '10 VR, no tier, so that's one of the 2 from the dog worth
The dog on my side is also a regular '10 VR no tier, so that's the second to be worth the Dog

Store pets:
Forum/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=4899188#p142982071
2022-2023 is 1 OR, and since all these stores are VRs it's a VR OR
So one store plus the rare cat would be worth the cat on your side

Bellarocks123a (From earlier in our DMs) wrote:From horrors page, the dog would be T7 "Line 5: 4-5 Old Rares === 2 08-'11 Very Rares == ~0.5 MA or slightly under", which I'm using the " 2 08-'11 Very Rares" in my calculation since the ragdoll and re-release dog are both '10 VRs, making it exactly that 2 VR worth.

The cat would be T8 "Line 4: == 3 Old Rares === Regular VR + small add", which I was counting a single store pet as the "regular VR" since its a VR outcome, and the small add as the rare cat on my side.

It sounds like part of the disconnect is the store value, which I believe you're saying you value as just an old rare, not a "regular VR". Even then, it would just be 2 store pets to even out though, not 8.








Explaining what defines "Old Rare"

Horror's Guide Says wrote:" T8 Line 4: == 3 Old Rares === Regular VR + small add "

Refers to:
Horror specify's Old Rare = A basic Rare from 2010/2011
"Old" refers to the Years '10-'11. Not '08-'11 Years.

EXAMPLES:
Horror Specifys (RR values):
T8: All Lines: "Old Rares" = '10-'11 Years
T7: Line 5: "4-5x Old Rares ('10-'11) === 2x 08-'11 Very Rares " = ( 2x Rs = 1x VR ) but varies if '08-'09 Years are in the trade with '10-'11 Years, which is why it might take 4-5x Old Rares ('10-'11) to = 2x VRs (if the VRs are '08-'09)
T6: "Old Rares" = '10-'11 Years
T5: Line 8: " 5x Old Rares == 2x '08-'09 VRs == (~150C$)" This line shows that 5x Old Rares ('10-'11) = 2x '08-'09 VRs specifically.
Horror's section on Trading Between Years sort of touches on this idea that newer years + adds = older years

So with that now explained:
Horror's Guide Says wrote:" T8 Line 4: == 3 Old Rares === Regular VR + small add "

Actually looks like this:
T8 Line 4: == 3x '10-'11 Rares === ( 1x โ€˜10-โ€˜11 REG VR + Small Add )








EXplaining VRs and Same Year

You said:
Bellarocks123a (From just now in our DMs) wrote:Reg VR is just the term Horror uses for not tiered VRs as shown here. The 3 R to VR + small add is only for that T8 Line 4 so it's only applicable to those pets, typically 2009 or 2010 pets, so the '22 example doesn't apply.

NOTE:
As Horror's guide stats: " Unless โญ notably high demand (+) โญ, assume it's just worth 2 same-age rares "
None of your '10 Non-Store Pets are of notably High Demand.
The years you stated are a bit off since we know Old Rares = '10-'11

My '22 VR example was in reference to you saying:
(I will explain Store Pet Values later on since you are a bit off here)
Bellarocks123a (From earlier in our DMs) wrote:The cat would be T8 "Line 4: == 3 Old Rares === Regular VR + small add", which I was counting a single store pet as the "regular VR" since its a VR outcome, and the small add as the rare cat on my side.


So this can look like:
( REG Same-Year VR + Samll Add ) = 3x Same-Year Rares

For a '22 VR Pet this looks like:
EXAMPLE:
1x '22 R = 8C$
1x '22 VR = 18C$ (This VR is a rat pet, I will just say it is 20C$ for a better Demand pet.)

Using the equation from before ( REG Same-Year VR + Samll Add ) = 3x Same-Year Rares:
(1x '22 VR + Small Add) = 3x '22 Rares
3x '22 Rs = 24C$ (8C$ x 3)
(1x '22 VR [18C$-20C$] + Small Add)== 3x '22 Rs [8C$ x 3]
Which really looks like:
20C$ + Small Add == 24C$

3x '22 Rares = 24C$ is a greater value than the 1x "REG" '22 VR @ (fake: 20C$)/(real: 18C$), and that is why a small add on the VR side is needed.




Also, a โ€˜22 VR Store Pet does not = a โ€˜08-โ€˜11 VR.
A โ€˜22 Store Pet does not differ between R-VR tags of other '22 Store Pets.
Horror does NOT specify between R-VR Store Pets, only makes a note of higher demand pets in the sets, usually the Set Exclusives.
The reason some Same-Year Store Pets may vary in MA worth or C$ worth is due to the demand on the Pets design or if it happens to be the Set Exclusive. Not the tag attached to it.
EXAMPLE:
" All store pets grow in value, rare and VR store pets are worth the same but I guess people prefer the store pets being VR rather than rare. Because if we are really talking about the VR and ER it would not make sense in 1MA store pets since some ER store pets are still .5MA while there are some VR store pets that are 1MA like the PPS griffon or the PPS lions when they are VR themselves. "
A โ€˜22 Store Pet C$ Value by Horror's Guide: 35C$-45C$
A โ€˜22 Store Pet AT BEST for 45c$ each does not buy 2x '10-'11 Old Rares AT WORST for 25c$ each.

That is why I asked for 8x '22-'23 Store Pets + Adds because my side has Older Pets, better Demand, List Pets, and True Date.
8x '22-'23 Store Pets = 8x '10-'11 Rares
2x '10 VRs = 4x '10-'11 Rares
1x '10 RR Rare= 1x '10 Rare
== 1.3 MAs = 13x '10-'11 Rares
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Drink name: Bitter Sweet
Drink description/entry : Bitter Sweet is a very simple drink at first glance, made of Coffee and Weeping Eyebells. Served in a white ceramic mug that could be found in any home, but upon further inspection, one will come to understand its very perplexing composition. This drink was not made to be popular or even taste good, instead, it was made only to capture a memory. The creator was never credited or known, but the creation story of this odd brew of coffee was.
It was said that on a very early morning in the empty lands of Eaden, there was a lovely floral scent mixed with coffee in the air coming from deep within The Gardens area. A curious Werm was brave enough to follow the source of this aroma, only to find a sleeping Wermling next to a campfire. It was clear that somewerm had set up a camp that previous night, cooked and cared for the Wermling, and was just here only moments ago. There were no clues as to who was watching over the Wermling, only a nameless Guild Jacket laid over the sleeping Wermling, and a pot of coffee on the fire with Weeping Eyebells bubbling in the water. The curious Werm stayed with the Wermling, hoping that whoever helped them would return for the Wermling, but nowerm came. The Wermling was much too young to form clear words or be left out here alone, so the curious Werm took them back to their own home with them, to raise them in their cafe and take care of them. Ever since that day, the curious Werm recreated a drink in their cafe of that very same coffee, in an attempt to capture that emotion that had lingered in the air that morning. Who were they? Why did they leave? Why did they never return? Why did they stay that night to protect the Wermling at all? Perhaps the curious Werm would never know, even if they found a new member of their family that day, the painful image of that morning and the decisions another Werm had to have made, always made that quiet morning memory Bitter Sweet.

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