(FAKE) Puppy 1 by hypersomnia.

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(FAKE) Puppy 1

Postby hypersomnia. » Sun Apr 20, 2025 1:42 pm


    Estimated Growth Date: Autogrown
    Breeding Date: 4/19/2025

    Adult Height: [20-17 in] Rolled 19 in
    Adult Weight: [42-35 lbs] Rolled 35 lbs
    Color: Blue and Silver Blanket with Mask and Minimal White
    Genotype: atas+ Bb cchce dd EmEm hh ii kyky mm ssw tt UU LL

    Ourania x Tealight | Pairing One

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Re: (FAKE) Puppy 1

Postby Griffin Torrens » Tue Apr 22, 2025 6:16 am

Genetics: you've done a great job matching the geno and the pheno! Official wording order of the pheno (colour) goes: masking, colours, a loci, k loci, m/h loci, t loci, s loci. So yours would be "Masked Blue and Silver Blanket Minimal White"
However you seem to have had a little mix up with a couple genes! To roll puppies, you should rng a single loci from each parent. For example Tealight is sisi and Ourania is Ssw, meaning you would roll between the S and the sw to pair with a si. possible puppy combos are then Ssi (minimal white) or sisw (Extreme Irish white). You can fix this my changing your geno to Ssi! It's the same with the masking, one parent is EmEm and the second EE, so pups can only be EmE, there is no possibility of EmEm! If that's still confusing feel free to shoot me a DM on here or discord!

Design: well done remembering the nose/eye shine, it can be easily forgotten, and I love the colour you chose for the eyes! Overall your markings are pretty spot on, however you seem to have a few too many light patches on the top of the collie (tail, shoulder) where they should be your blue and not silver. The parent Tealight is a great example of a blanket! Similarly there should be no silver on the muzzle/cheeks/around the eyes as masking would make that whole area blue! As for your colour shades they can work as they are, but from my experience we tend to do blue and silver as greys in the warm colour zones, not actual blue tones, just to get them a tad more natural looking! If you're stuck it can be a good idea to colour pick from real collies not to copy, just to see what area of the palette they use :>

Other: very minor but you can delete all the info on the adult height/weight other than what it rolls, so it'll just say "adult height: 19 in"!

This is an awesome first collie and I look forward to seeing how you develop designs in the future!
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Re: (FAKE) Puppy 1

Postby hypersomnia. » Tue Apr 22, 2025 2:12 pm

Griffin Torrens wrote:Genetics: you've done a great job matching the geno and the pheno! Official wording order of the pheno (colour) goes: masking, colours, a loci, k loci, m/h loci, t loci, s loci. So yours would be "Masked Blue and Silver Blanket Minimal White"
However you seem to have had a little mix up with a couple genes! To roll puppies, you should rng a single loci from each parent. For example Tealight is sisi and Ourania is Ssw, meaning you would roll between the S and the sw to pair with a si. possible puppy combos are then Ssi (minimal white) or sisw (Extreme Irish white). You can fix this my changing your geno to Ssi! It's the same with the masking, one parent is EmEm and the second EE, so pups can only be EmE, there is no possibility of EmEm! If that's still confusing feel free to shoot me a DM on here or discord!

Design: well done remembering the nose/eye shine, it can be easily forgotten, and I love the colour you chose for the eyes! Overall your markings are pretty spot on, however you seem to have a few too many light patches on the top of the collie (tail, shoulder) where they should be your blue and not silver. The parent Tealight is a great example of a blanket! Similarly there should be no silver on the muzzle/cheeks/around the eyes as masking would make that whole area blue! As for your colour shades they can work as they are, but from my experience we tend to do blue and silver as greys in the warm colour zones, not actual blue tones, just to get them a tad more natural looking! If you're stuck it can be a good idea to colour pick from real collies not to copy, just to see what area of the palette they use :>

Other: very minor but you can delete all the info on the adult height/weight other than what it rolls, so it'll just say "adult height: 19 in"!

This is an awesome first collie and I look forward to seeing how you develop designs in the future!


Thank you so much for the advice! I'll comb over the designs as soon as I get another free day and fix up some things. I appreciate it so much!
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