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[conarcoin]

Spinning this off from a discussion in another thread.

I feel like, an easily programmable way to make rarity more useful as a metric of value without giving away exact pet counts would be to assign pets along a spectrum rather than putting them into strict values. This wouldn't change pets having rarity labels or the rarity label they're currently in, but the color of their rarity tag would more closely reflect their rarity by allowing us to see smaller differences in rarity.

This is somewhat based on the way a game called osu! calculates and assigns difficulty:



This seems like it'd be more work calculation-wise but I don't think it would be if it's restricted to updating on the same schedule rarity currently updates? And the only other issue I can think of is that the images currently used don't work like that but I think you could make transparent versions of the rarity bars and let the color be filled in on-site.

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I do support this, but I think it would be difficult for colorblind users! ;;

Even for non colorblind people, gradients can be hard to see unless the color differences were pretty drastic and noticeable. An orange to red gradient between rare and very rare, for example, would be really hard to notice.

Which is why I think just adding new rarity tiers would be better, because that's more universal. ;;w;

You can mark it by stars or other forms.

I like this topic suggestion idea, too.

This is a valid concern, and I do wonder if there'd be a way to numerically display the point in the range without displaying the pet count, maybe toggleable in settings alongside the current "display rarity image" setting so instead of like, a orangeish-red rare tag it'd display as like, Rare (5.6) or whatever number? (I just picked a random number as an example)

I worry that adding new rarity tiers in strict values woudn't help much with regards to date trading issues and the like (Dunno if that makes sense)

And for the colorblind problem, there are many different colorblind-friendly color scheme variations. This writeup, while very lengthy and complex, shows that there are many ways to accommodate colorblind people when visualizing data!

Concept by ruptures:

this is a really good idea people could hoard a pet with the exact rarity color they like/decimal they like eg. 44.4 or 11.1, i made a chart of how it could work


and decimals right after the rarity like

★★★★★★ Common 60.7

Other related suggestions and discussions:
Various related discussion topics and suggestions over the years, compiled here for easy access. (I read about this topic a lot, I find the site's economy fascinating)

• Idea to add another rarity between VR & OMGSR?
• Improve trade information accessibility
• Update Rarity Scale
• do you use "rarity math"?
• Rarity Value Discussion: Why Our Current System is Flawed
• How Do You Really Trade?
• Dates don't matter that much campaign!
• Is Demand Subjective?
• Does anyone else feel like Demand is killing CS?
• Why dates don't work with pet rarities
• What the heck is up with trading?
• Philosophical Rarity Survey
• CS 2022 Trading Survey
• Green Robot Rat Discussion
• 2019 Rarity Update

[Lifora]

Support, this is a really cool idea!

[twilispark]

support . ANYTHING to make rarities more easily understood to fix trading a little

[Malleus]

I do support this, but I think it would be difficult for colorblind users! ;;

Even for non colorblind people, gradients can be hard to see unless the color differences were pretty drastic and noticeable. An orange to red gradient between rare and very rare, for example, would be really hard to notice.

Which is why I think just adding new rarity tiers would be better, because that's more universal. ;;w;

[conarcoin]

I do support this, but I think it would be difficult for colorblind users! ;;

Even for non colorblind people, gradients can be hard to see unless the color differences were pretty drastic and noticeable. An orange to red gradient between rare and very rare, for example, would be really hard to notice.

Which is why I think just adding new rarity tiers would be better, because that's more universal. ;;w;

This is a valid concern, and I do wonder if there'd be a way to numerically display the point in the range without displaying the pet count, maybe toggleable in settings alongside the current "display rarity image" setting so instead of like, a orangeish-red rare tag it'd display as like, Rare (5.6) or whatever number? (I just picked a random number as an example)

I worry that adding new rarity tiers in strict values woudn't help much with regards to date trading issues and the like (Dunno if that makes sense)

[Sanivisu]

I do support this, but I think it would be difficult for colorblind users! ;;

Even for non colorblind people, gradients can be hard to see unless the color differences were pretty drastic and noticeable. An orange to red gradient between rare and very rare, for example, would be really hard to notice.

Which is why I think just adding new rarity tiers would be better, because that's more universal. ;;w;

You can mark it by stars or other forms.

I like this topic suggestion idea, too.

[Malleus]

I do support this, but I think it would be difficult for colorblind users! ;;

Even for non colorblind people, gradients can be hard to see unless the color differences were pretty drastic and noticeable. An orange to red gradient between rare and very rare, for example, would be really hard to notice.

Which is why I think just adding new rarity tiers would be better, because that's more universal. ;;w;

You can mark it by stars or other forms.

I like this topic suggestion idea, too.

Oh!! I love the idea of rarity stars, actually! That's super simple and probably an easier fix than re-doing all the tiers! ;w;

[conarcoin]

I do support this, but I think it would be difficult for colorblind users! ;;

Even for non colorblind people, gradients can be hard to see unless the color differences were pretty drastic and noticeable. An orange to red gradient between rare and very rare, for example, would be really hard to notice.

Which is why I think just adding new rarity tiers would be better, because that's more universal. ;;w;

You can mark it by stars or other forms.

I like this topic suggestion idea, too.

*nodding* Colors were just my initial idea because it's what I'd seen before and seemed the most simple to program, but I think the same effect could definitely be achieved in other ways c:

[foxcloud19]

Yes! I support this!

[kuro.subete]

I do support this, but I think it would be difficult for colorblind users! ;;

Even for non colorblind people, gradients can be hard to see unless the color differences were pretty drastic and noticeable. An orange to red gradient between rare and very rare, for example, would be really hard to notice.

Which is why I think just adding new rarity tiers would be better, because that's more universal. ;;w;

i agree w this. i think its a neat idea, but i also think it would add a lot of debate among users abt what color they actually are and it may be overwhelming for some.

we definitely need to figure out a better way to break down the rarities though for sure.