WHY PEOPLE ARE QUITTING CS- A Discussion

[Melodysinger]

Been off and on since 2014, but since I was rather young I can't exactly talk about the "good old days." All I can say is that this site has begun to tick me off more and more. It feels like no one wants to trade, so I just post on monthly/event swap threads and hope for the best. If I try to send a trade to someone who is asking for them on their own thread, it's hard to get a response and if I do, they usually cancel with no note. I barely even care to work on the summer event even though the pets are nice.
I'm very close to liquidating my account for wajas stuff, it's just hard for me to change routine atm.
(Maybe not the most insightful, but my two cents anyway)

[Ferven]

The thing I always think about though is... how much work is it running this website? Do the owners make any money off of this other than what is likely used to pay artists and keep it running? I'm sure they have day jobs. I couldnt imagine working 45 or more hours a week and then, instead of relaxing by playing a game/watching TV/reading a book, having to run a website with thousands of people on it who will never all be happy. Realistically, there *is no* simple solution to these problems that will make everyone happy.
Or, if there is, I surely cant think of it. Suggestions are one thing but how could we possibly know the results.

Also I think part of the reason why there aren't as many new players is that these types of forum websites just aren't really popular anymore.

[Loelya]

eh here's my grievance

i just want staff to listen. it feels so insanely hopeless and frustrating here 24/7 which makes me not want to be here

site suggestions are never listened to except for once or twice a year if we're lucky. as stated in the first post, we're only listened to when there's an uprising ... then we get one response and it's considered done /:

we argued for transparency a few years ago and got mid month updates. now there's another push for transparency because it's simply not enough.

in my opinion, cs will never die. a lot of us are extremely loyal & dedicated - but the life and fun will definitely be continuing to drain out of this site. i stay because i love oekaki and the pets; i could never just quit and go to a diff pet site because this stinky (/affectionate) chicken website will always hold the #1 place in my heart.

i just want to see more staff involvement* so badly but ... i feel like it's never coming which is not a morale booster. which is something cs sorely needs

*(not counting mods + gen helpers n such. y'all r great)

i don't like voicing my opinion on stuff because negativity about my favorite things freaks me out + my one singular criticizing opinion feels like a drop of water in the ocean at this point

been lurking this thread & meaning to mark but oh my gosh, this post perfectly and completely sums up 100% of my thoughts on all this. bumping suggestion forums for weeks, months, years... with no responses from staff is exhausting. mods & general helpers - and I'd like to extend this to the artists as well! - are amazing but they can only do so much. I'm basically made of inertia so I likely won't ever leave, and I like the safety and chillness of the oekaki, but I've also decided that I have to accept the fact that genuine improvements likely will not happen on this site.

on one hand it makes me sad, but on another hand, I can't say for sure that I'd do it much differently if I had a project I no longer cared about but still brought in passive income. I'd like to think I would, I'd like to think I'd do more to respond to those who clearly did care, but energy & time are valuable resources, and maybe I wouldn't be as noble about it as I might hope.

[angst]

seems like we have a few tactics;

- mass email / letter detailing concerns
- boycotting site purchases
- petition circling via signatures

this thread will likely be closed, so it will be important to take screenshots before what people said is removed.

[Lex.]

could we like ... mass email them or something ? 😭 it's non offensive & a more gentle way of "spamming" without cluttering the forums with petitions n such. petitions in the signature will probably do nothing

yea and they might just make a rule about no petitions in your signature or something :/ so then anyone who has one could get in trouble

yeah, i was asked to remove "i hate chickensmoothie' sparkly gif from my sig </3
they say they don't allow anti/hate speech
I don't really understand how they differentiate hate speech/anti stuff, or what they consider hate speech
i don't even hate the site
i just hate how it's run ToT

if someone says they hate anime in their signature i'd bet no staff member would say a peep
but because my gif was related to the site, i guess it was taken on a personal level ?

[SunstonePhoenix]

They pay artists?

[Beefy]

could we like ... mass email them or something ? 😭 it's non offensive & a more gentle way of "spamming" without cluttering the forums with petitions n such. petitions in the signature will probably do nothing

yea and they might just make a rule about no petitions in your signature or something so then anyone who has one could get in trouble

and i find it funny how we only want to help and they keep shutting us doen time and time again. if they listened to us the site could even be more profitable

No one is going to make a rule about having no petitions in your signature. This has been a common thing to do especially for threads in the suggestions tab. Its how the list got discontinued. A petition with the threat of action is the only way to go. For instance, a petition that says we want this and then when petition gets whatever amount of people, we will all start quitting or deleting pets or turn on adblock something like that

[tiredddd]

seems like we have a few tactics;

- mass email / letter detailing concerns
- boycotting site purchases
- petition circling via signatures

this thread will likely be closed, so it will be important to take screenshots before what people said is removed.

grab links because the wayback maciene archives all this

[angst]

could we like ... mass email them or something ? 😭 it's non offensive & a more gentle way of "spamming" without cluttering the forums with petitions n such. petitions in the signature will probably do nothing

yea and they might just make a rule about no petitions in your signature or something so then anyone who has one could get in trouble

yeah, i was asked to remove "i hate chickensmoothie' sparkly gif from my sig </3
they say they don't allow anti/hate speech
I don't really understand how they differentiate hate speech/anti stuff, or what they consider hate speech
i don't even hate the site
i just hate how it's run ToT

if someone says they hate anime in their signature i'd bet no staff member would say a peep
but because my gif was related to the site, i guess it was taken on a personal level ?

wait that's actually insane. like that's textbook censorship. it's not even funny.

criticizing the site is not hate speech. Hate speech enacts violence towards marginalized peoples and is not something to joke about or use lightly.

How horrible. I'm so sorry you even had that accusation thrown at you.

I'm sure this post will be edited for discussing hate speech, oh my gosh.

[TheMythosCollection]

yeah, i was asked to remove "i hate chickensmoothie' sparkly gif from my sig </3
they say they don't allow anti/hate speech
I don't really understand how they differentiate hate speech/anti stuff, or what they consider hate speech
i don't even hate the site
i just hate how it's run ToT

if someone says they hate anime in their signature i'd bet no staff member would say a peep
but because my gif was related to the site, i guess it was taken on a personal level ?[/quote]


Oh my gosh finially someone said it!! They had me take mine down a while back as well and I was thinking the exact same. I felt so singled out, like the post itself I got it from didn't get locked or taken down but I was spoken to in privte while it felt like tons of other poeple we're still allowed to have them.