Oekaki/ art fourms revamp suggestions!

[h3lltown]

Tbh chickenpaint needs some updating (including a better mobile interface like a lot of ppl have already said)

If you want people to actually use it as a proper art program,then make it a proper art program. imo it would prevent artists from posting off-site art in the oekaki boards since the main reason for doing so is that the tools are very limiting, especially if you are trying for hq art. (i'm not saying its impossible, it's just very difficult and that deters artists from using it)
Another issue is the canvas size. I'm really not asking for much, but even while using the "bigger" canvas you can TASTE the pixels with the current canvas resolution.
and finally, fix the huge issue with canvas navigation. I can't scroll around in the canvas or zoom without unplugging and plugging in my mouse or giving up on having pen pressure every time i need to. it's really annoying.

I can't think of more stuff that needs to be fixed, buti'm sure other artists that use it more frequently will give some more suggestions.

[Guest]

I think in the case of the off-oekaki art forums, a thumbnail feature is the best bet. I definitely second that.
I know there are worries about an influx of art theft, but I don't think that a thumbnail would directly cause that. Art theft is something we already see anyways in regards to tracing, or downright stolen art in the off-oekaki art shops forum. As long as it's continuing to be moderated, and those threads get reported, there shouldn't be any real apocalypse of theft sprouting up from it.

Another option you could think about that's an alternative to a new oekaki board solely for showcasing off-site art, is moving the off-oekaki art forums to somewhere where they're easier to find. You could add header text like the forums, to separate off-oekaki and on oekaki art, and then simply post the art forums under the "art" tab at the top of the site. Terrible mock-up but something like this

HI SO I LOVE THIS????
expanding on my idea of cropping like.
imagine how people usually crop art in their character galleries

an exampl.......
then the full art could be just

yknow the whole thing iunno
I FEEL LIKE I'M NOT GOOD AT EXPLAINING AND FORGOT I COULD ILLUSTRATE MY POINT. but with like. sad cat. i don't wanna use my own art asgfgh

[Rinovo]

here is a popular suggestion that has been noticed by mods:

i'll again bring up a suggestion of my own.

overhaul the off-oekaki board and make it the same structure as the oekaki ones.
let us upload our own art and have it in a gallery style format! maybe let us crosspost so we can add entries to c4cs and myos!
right now, the off-oekaki board is a graveyard that gets no attention simply because the format for art is so bad.
all i want at this point is a compromise, and i feel like this would be a great way to fix the issue. i feel it wouldn't be harder to moderate, as we can already upload our own images with bbcode, only this would be so much neater and easier to use.

I would l o v e this

[cervidae]

my suggestion is in the rules itself: provide visual examples in the rules of what is considered acceptable and what is considered unacceptable. ideally this would only apply to rules that aren't as cut and dry rather than things similar to the obvious no-explicit-content rules.

[beestie]

my suggestion is in the rules itself: provide visual examples in the rules of what is considered acceptable and what is considered unacceptable. ideally this would only apply to rules that aren't as cut and dry rather than things similar to the obvious no-explicit-content rules.

i second this as well - as someone who struggles understanding a lot of text-heavy stuff, it'd be nice to have visuals for things that aren't so black and white.

[kuregalis]

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tbh this isn't a revamp suggestion but more so along the lines of,,,incentive?

the fact that a topic popped up and its actually getting a lot of traffic already says a lot. especially when the majority aren't short one liners or paragraphs but with actual arguments and evidence.

I feel kind of bad that the topic picked up on thanksgiving/right after thanksgiving but this should be either addressed now rather than later

I feel this would be a very good bussiness oppurtunity for the site if they made some updates to the oekaki boards to allow more wiggle room for off oekaki artists. The community in there is already so supportive and willing to pay cs currency or actual currency for art/characters. You don't need to allow actual currency to be traded on cs as that would provide legal issues if something goes wrong so keeping the actual currency off site is fine. Perhaps making another board similar to "Trades and Auctions For Other Websites"? Or just keeping the, "as long as cs currency, pets, or items" are included in the possible payment options actual currency can be allowed.

But expanding Chicken Smoothie from a pet adoptable site to a pet adoptable site + art sharing site wouldn't be too bad of an idea. It is a lot of work however and there would be questions in regards to CS staff and voulnteers.

This is super hard to explain with english but uh,,,hopefully it makes sense??? TLDR big shame/missed oppurtnity to help out the art community that really has toyhouse, amino, and deviantart (which is kind of dead) to turn to (among some other sites). Especially a sort of kid friendly site?

[beestie]

i also understand that this may be difficult to implement but i'd love the ability to follow off-oekaki artists like you can on-oekaki artists. and i know you can technically do that, but their off-oekaki art won't show up in your oekaki notifications unless it's under a cover (which, as we all know, is against the rules). i just think it would be a nice feature to further support off-oekaki artists.

[ford]

alright, gonna post a put together list of all the details of my ideal off-oekaki board here, since they were all spread out in the other thread.

overhaul the off-oekaki board and make it the same structure as the oekaki ones.
let us upload our own art and have it in a gallery style format! maybe let us crosspost to other galleries so we can add entries to c4cs and myos? i don't know how possible it is, but seeing as it's possible to move things out of subgalleries, i'm guessing it would be possible to add to one?
right now, the off-oekaki board is a graveyard that gets no attention simply because the format for art is so bad.
all i want at this point is a compromise, and i feel like this would be a great way to fix the issue. i feel it wouldn't be harder to moderate, as we can already upload our own images with bbcode, only this would be so much neater and easier to use.

i did see some people bring up the possibility of people uploading inappropriate content, and while i was talking with some friends, we had the solution of a vetting system with uploaded art, similar to how coppa posts work. of course, that would be a lot of work, which brings me to the next idea.

i'm sure there's also a possibility of hiring a new sector of the team to moderate as well? maybe a mod team exclusively for the off-oekaki art section that knows how to deal with art theft and any other issues that may come up.

from what i could tell and from what some staff had been saying, there's a lot of work to deal with, and not enough staff to handle everything. according to the recent announcement, simon had mentioned that staff applications were going to be opened within the next few months. i feel this would be the perfect time to work out details of a possible new team of staff for an overhauled off-oekaki gallery, who are good at detecting and dealing with art theft and vetting inappropriate content.

i'm also interested by the one you have about a new type of oekaki mod! do you have any other thoughts regarding this?



from here
at the moment, i'm imagining a team separate from the omods. maybe just general art mods? that would be in charge of that specific section of the site, like the omods and rpmods. if there was an approval system in place, they'd be the ones accepting what art goes through, and then the general moderation stuff like comments and such. since the approval system would be a lot of work on it's own, i'd think it would be best for a separate team, instead of adding another work load onto the omods.

i think updating and overhauling the off-oekaki boards would let the art community flourish, and i feel a lot of people may move there from the oekaki boards. i would. i think lots of others in this thread would as well.

hopefully this one speaks for itself. more of a reason than an idea, but i thought it would be worth including.

my laptop just doesn't run browser art programs very well at all. not to mention phones or tablets. even with an oekaki update, it would be very hard to use, maybe even worse if they add more features. keep in mind that oekaki (and any other browser art program) is not accessible to some of us as it is to the full oekaki artists.

another reason. right now the art community is very one sided when it comes to on vs off oekaki, with off-oekaki art not getting as much of a spotlight. those who are unable to use oekaki are being left out, and the off-oekaki forums are painfully neglected with an awful format for posting art.


hopefully these all make sense, and can be taken into consideration. i tried my best to keep it clear and to the point. please let me know if anything is confusing and i'll try to clarify. if you have any questions, i'll add it here with my response.

i'll also be adding to this as i think of more ideas and solutions, if needed.

thank you for reading.

[Silver Pandorica]

Or even, and this an easy one: Make an oekaki subsection that's just for off-oekaki art galleries with on-oekaki covers.
Off-oekaki artists get the visibility of oekaki artists and they're confined to one spot for the mod's sake.

this suggestion!! absolutely wonderful

I love this idea!! That way people can still get notifications about artists they follow, off-oekaki artists can be seen and appreciated, and it wouldn't be (I assume) too hefty of a coding alteration. This is honestly a great and simple suggestion ^^

my suggestion is in the rules itself: provide visual examples in the rules of what is considered acceptable and what is considered unacceptable. ideally this would only apply to rules that aren't as cut and dry rather than things similar to the obvious no-explicit-content rules.

Totally agree with this. There is just so much gray area in the rules and visual examples would be such a massive help.

[i<3 wolves678]

if they could just make a mobile friendly version of chickenpaint, I wouldn’t even need to do covers for art. As an iPad user I’d really like to be able to use oekaki and participate in closed species etc.

this!!
While oekaki used to be at least somewhat functional on mobile devices, it’s practically completely broken now, at least from my experiences as someone who uses an iPad for my digital artworks.
Me and multiple other users have asked about this on the oekaki problems and solutions thread multiple times and have been completely ignored by staff for the most part, I’m really hoping they’ll actually pay attention to this thread and not just forget about it as it seems they have that one, it’s especially frustrating for people with genuine issues or glitches with the program to not have any word on the matter.