We need your feedback: Bigger, less frequent pound openings?

Announcements about events or changes to the website and forum

Should we have bigger, less frequent pound openings?

Poll ended at Mon Apr 22, 2024 11:26 am

Yes - increase pound size to 1800 pets and open 1.7 times per day
1121
35%
No - keep pound size at 1300 pets and open 2.4 times per day
2113
65%
 
Total votes : 3234

Re: We need your feedback: Bigger, less frequent pound openi

Postby duckblind » Sat Apr 20, 2024 4:00 am

Briar-n'-stuff wrote:If there's anything that could help new players, it's probably making the number of pets on our page smaller so they only have to focus on recognizing a select few, not a high number of options taken away but just enough that it's not overwhelming. I think that would help ALL players, not just the new, old or experienced.

This is a good idea. When I try to see all the pets on the page at once I usually have to zoom out quite a bit which then makes the images a little harder to see. Just one less row would help a lot, especially if it was combined with randomization (and it would also help extend the pound opening, which is one of the biggest problems at the moment).
User avatar
duckblind
 
Posts: 553
Joined: Fri Dec 03, 2021 11:08 am
My pets
My items
My wishlist
My gallery
My scenes
My dressups
Trade with me

Re: We need your feedback: Bigger, less frequent pound openi

Postby The Last Raven » Sat Apr 20, 2024 4:01 am

duckblind wrote:
Briar-n'-stuff wrote:If there's anything that could help new players, it's probably making the number of pets on our page smaller so they only have to focus on recognizing a select few, not a high number of options taken away but just enough that it's not overwhelming. I think that would help ALL players, not just the new, old or experienced.

This is a good idea. When I try to see all the pets on the page at once I usually have to zoom out quite a bit which then makes the images a little harder to see. Just one less row would help a lot, especially if it was combined with randomization (and it would also help extend the pound opening, which is one of the biggest problems at the moment).

I actually like the sound of this!
──-────────────────────
raven|she|adult
────────────────────-──
███░█████████████████ █
░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░
Image
Image
Image
███░█████████████████ █
──-────────────────────
hi! i’m a long time player
who loves to hoard chameleons
and anything else that tickles my fancy.
i am a huge nerd and love to cosplay!

Lights off so I can catch up

────────────────────-──
███░█████████████████ █
Image
Image
Image
Image
███░█████████████ █
░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░
──-───────────────
coding credit pascal
collection dream

ImageImageImage
───────────────-──
░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░
Image
Image
───────────────-──
░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░
Image
░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░
───────────────-──
███░█████████████ █
User avatar
The Last Raven
 
Posts: 36136
Joined: Sun Feb 07, 2010 10:57 am
My pets
My items
My wishlist
My gallery
My scenes
My dressups
Trade with me

Re: We need your feedback: Bigger, less frequent pound openi

Postby ryomen » Sat Apr 20, 2024 4:06 am

duckblind wrote:
Briar-n'-stuff wrote:If there's anything that could help new players, it's probably making the number of pets on our page smaller so they only have to focus on recognizing a select few, not a high number of options taken away but just enough that it's not overwhelming. I think that would help ALL players, not just the new, old or experienced.

This is a good idea. When I try to see all the pets on the page at once I usually have to zoom out quite a bit which then makes the images a little harder to see. Just one less row would help a lot, especially if it was combined with randomization (and it would also help extend the pound opening, which is one of the biggest problems at the moment).


big support on this idea
𝐢𝐟 𝐢 𝐰𝐚𝐧𝐭 𝐭𝐨 𝐞𝐚𝐭, 𝐢 𝐞𝐚𝐭...
Image

••●••••●••••●••••●••••●••••●••••●••••●••••●••
ryomen/ryo ○ adult ○ pisces
always laughing!
trades always welcome :3
••●••••●••••●••••●••••●••••●••••●••••●••••●••
...𝐚𝐧𝐝 𝐢𝐟 𝐢𝐭 𝐞𝐧𝐭𝐞𝐫𝐭𝐚𝐢𝐧𝐬 𝐦𝐞, 𝐢 𝐭𝐡𝐫𝐨𝐰 𝐢𝐭 𝐚 𝐛𝐨𝐧𝐞.
User avatar
ryomen
 
Posts: 987
Joined: Wed Oct 25, 2023 1:42 pm
My pets
My items
My wishlist
My gallery
My scenes
My dressups
Trade with me

Re: We need your feedback: Bigger, less frequent pound openi

Postby Silver Tiger~ » Sat Apr 20, 2024 5:53 am

duckblind wrote:
Briar-n'-stuff wrote:If there's anything that could help new players, it's probably making the number of pets on our page smaller so they only have to focus on recognizing a select few, not a high number of options taken away but just enough that it's not overwhelming. I think that would help ALL players, not just the new, old or experienced.

This is a good idea. When I try to see all the pets on the page at once I usually have to zoom out quite a bit which then makes the images a little harder to see. Just one less row would help a lot, especially if it was combined with randomization (and it would also help extend the pound opening, which is one of the biggest problems at the moment).


Big support on this, it seems like the best suggestion so far.
уσυ αяє ωнαт уσυ ℓσνє, ησт ωнσ ℓσνєѕ уσυ
SilverTiger on Eldemore
SilverChan on Flight Rising

𝐼 𝒽𝒶𝓋𝑒 𝓁𝑜𝓋𝑒𝒹 𝓉𝒽𝑒 𝓈𝓉𝒶𝓇𝓈 𝓉𝑜𝑜 𝒻𝑜𝓃𝒹𝓁𝓎 𝓉𝑜 𝒷𝑒 𝒻𝑒𝒶𝓇𝒻𝓊𝓁 𝑜𝒻 𝓉𝒽𝑒 𝓃𝒾𝑔𝒽𝓉
User avatar
Silver Tiger~
 
Posts: 5242
Joined: Sun Jun 16, 2013 1:28 pm
My pets
My items
My wishlist
My gallery
My scenes
My dressups
Trade with me

Re: We need your feedback: Bigger, less frequent pound openi

Postby The Last Raven » Sat Apr 20, 2024 6:27 am

I just want to mention how much I LOVE the 'already taken' signs popping up in real time. It feels so less disappointing than when you click something and then be told it's gone. It also makes it easier for me to decide what to grab.
──-────────────────────
raven|she|adult
────────────────────-──
███░█████████████████ █
░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░
Image
Image
Image
███░█████████████████ █
──-────────────────────
hi! i’m a long time player
who loves to hoard chameleons
and anything else that tickles my fancy.
i am a huge nerd and love to cosplay!

Lights off so I can catch up

────────────────────-──
███░█████████████████ █
Image
Image
Image
Image
███░█████████████ █
░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░
──-───────────────
coding credit pascal
collection dream

ImageImageImage
───────────────-──
░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░
Image
Image
───────────────-──
░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░
Image
░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░
───────────────-──
███░█████████████ █
User avatar
The Last Raven
 
Posts: 36136
Joined: Sun Feb 07, 2010 10:57 am
My pets
My items
My wishlist
My gallery
My scenes
My dressups
Trade with me

Re: We need your feedback: Bigger, less frequent pound openi

Postby Darni » Sat Apr 20, 2024 6:32 am

duckblind wrote:
Briar-n'-stuff wrote:If there's anything that could help new players, it's probably making the number of pets on our page smaller so they only have to focus on recognizing a select few, not a high number of options taken away but just enough that it's not overwhelming. I think that would help ALL players, not just the new, old or experienced.

This is a good idea. When I try to see all the pets on the page at once I usually have to zoom out quite a bit which then makes the images a little harder to see. Just one less row would help a lot, especially if it was combined with randomization (and it would also help extend the pound opening, which is one of the biggest problems at the moment).



I only joined a year ago, but I big support this. It was a little overwhelming at first trying pound because of so many pets and scrolling made me feel like it would make me lose out on something for not being fast enough
User avatar
Darni
 
Posts: 1521
Joined: Wed Feb 22, 2023 10:19 am
My pets
My items
My wishlist
My gallery
My scenes
My dressups
Trade with me

Re: We need your feedback: Bigger, less frequent pound openi

Postby Kaya » Sat Apr 20, 2024 6:52 am

Neither option really seems to fully address the issue.

If you reduce pound opening to one time a day and increase by 500, it's less pets per day available (Due to reduced openings) and more likely to miss the single opening time. (I can't really process 1.7 times a day, my brain says it's either open, and thus a 1, or not, and thus a .7 ;) )

If it stays the same, there are -more- pets available over the course of the day, so keeping it the same is actually the more logical answer, even though it does nothing to change the problem of them disappearing quickly.

Could the regular times be increased by.. say.. 300? or 250? That would give the 500ish increase spread out over a few openings instead of less pets over less openings.

Someone may have said this already. If they did, I second it, obviously. ;)
User avatar
Kaya
 
Posts: 1139
Joined: Sat Oct 04, 2008 8:10 am
My pets
My items
My wishlist
My gallery
My scenes
My dressups
Trade with me

Re: We need your feedback: Bigger, less frequent pound openi

Postby Adamented » Sat Apr 20, 2024 7:06 am

My final reply will just be this:

The only people who like an unfair system are those who have an advantage in it. I no longer think RNG is suitable for this website, if it has respect for its growing userbase as well as it's existing userbase. EQUALITY > RNG

Really amazing how many people managed to ignore the subject of my last reply in favor of making it personal like it's about one person and not the site as a whole making a decision to opt for equality over older-userbase equity.


          [ ABOUT ]

          Ada
          AdamAddie
          he / she / they

          Image
          Image
          [ MY STUFF ]
          ImageImageImage
          discord: @adamented

          Image
          [ LINKS ]
          ImageImage
          Image
User avatar
Adamented
 
Posts: 3396
Joined: Sun Sep 28, 2014 2:40 am
My pets
My items
My wishlist
My gallery
My scenes
My dressups
Trade with me

Re: We need your feedback: Bigger, less frequent pound openi

Postby Darkcloud! » Sat Apr 20, 2024 7:14 am

Adamented wrote:My final reply will just be this:

The only people who like an unfair system are those who have an advantage in it. I no longer think RNG is suitable for this website, if it has respect for its growing userbase as well as it's existing userbase. EQUALITY > RNG

Really amazing how many people managed to ignore the subject of my last reply in favor of making it personal like it's about one person and not the site as a whole making a decision to opt for equality over older-userbase equity.


Agree. Personal attacks over the posts stating that they feel the base issue is that the "RNG" setup is not truly a fair rng and changing the frequency of pounds will not solve the underlying issue of the pound have been a reoccurring behavior in this thread.

The interest in changing the pound frequency also can extend to the opinion that the underlying issue is that the site is flooded by users looking only for pets they can trade.... or any other opinion regarding the underlying issues, which I cannot name all of here and naming any of them does not mean I share that mindset, just that I can see that point of view.
Image

Image
semi-active, missed years 2012 and 2013 entirely- about halfway to catching up!
Looking to complete years 2011, 2014-16 and 2021-23!
User avatar
Darkcloud!
 
Posts: 2948
Joined: Thu Oct 28, 2010 10:24 am
My pets
My items
My wishlist
My gallery
My scenes
My dressups
Trade with me

Re: We need your feedback: Bigger, less frequent pound openi

Postby Pallastronomy » Sat Apr 20, 2024 7:56 am

Adamented wrote:My final reply will just be this:

The only people who like an unfair system are those who have an advantage in it. I no longer think RNG is suitable for this website, if it has respect for its growing userbase as well as it's existing userbase. EQUALITY > RNG

Really amazing how many people managed to ignore the subject of my last reply in favor of making it personal like it's about one person and not the site as a whole making a decision to opt for equality over older-userbase equity.


The pound is quite literally based around RNG. Even if you’ve seen the pets coming up in the opening, even if you know what’s rare and what isn’t, you still can’t guarantee what you get on your page, and you still can’t guarantee you’ll be fast enough to click. The edge of experienced players over newer ones is inherent with having that experience; that’s not something exclusive to CS, and the advantage is still fairly slight all things considered. If anything, your suggestion of blind picks would factor in RNG more, so I genuinely don’t understand what you’re trying to get at with arguing that it goes against equality.

Even disregarding that, both new and old players would undoubtedly like some semblance of choice as to what pet they pick, even if they definitely aren’t getting something rare; I personally use it to grab missing stuff off my wishlist if I know I’m not getting anything valuable, meaning that at least I got something worthwhile out of it. Removing that ability to choose is undoubtedly just going to leave everyone involved more disappointed a majority of the time

Several already proposed ideas (Name less pets per page to focus on) already are much more effective at helping everyone on paper, so I don’t see why people are so deadset on a solution that will just hinder the more dedicated users and completely drain the fun out of the pound
My TFO LabMy Magistream Scroll
Image
Image
Image
Image

ImageImageImageImageImage

ImageImageMeowdy!ImageImage
ImageImageYou can call me Azure, Celeste, Elijah, or Koshka, and I’m an artist, animator, writer, and government certified moron. Feel free to drop in and say hi! I don't bite!ImageImage


Signature decor by Martith, Crasty-For-Life, King-Lulu-Deer, mairu-doggy, stardust-palace, RenIrako, Drawn-Mario, and peachkonpeito on DeviantArt! Go check em' out!
User avatar
Pallastronomy
 
Posts: 8956
Joined: Tue Apr 14, 2020 10:49 am
My pets
My items
My wishlist
My gallery
My scenes
My dressups
Trade with me

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Tumblr. and 2 guests