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Re: ❛ the lazy writers ❜ V2

Postby ~Teya~ » Thu Jan 11, 2018 3:54 pm

Out of the three stories above, which story seems the most interesting? What seems the least interesting and why? EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE They all sound super cool :0 I can't really say any of them are the least interesting, because I like them all ;D especially The Ruins of Ambrosia City hehhhhhhhhhe gimme >:3
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Re: ❛ the lazy writers ❜ V2

Postby ativanblues » Thu Jan 11, 2018 4:15 pm

Have you ever written fanfiction? If yes, what was it of? If no, would you consider it?
uh, i don’t think so. probably not. never seriously, anyway. i don’t know. i guess i just never really liked the concept of fanfiction in general. i’m kinda still in that phase where i think it’s stupid, but deep down i know there probably is good fanfiction out there, and it’s just harder to find in a genre i consider to be mostly poorly written and just a mess in general.

What is your favorite genre to write? Read?
kinda romance-ish...? but with dark and poetic influences. i also enjoy realistic fiction because it’s just always been easy to read and write for me. i can never come up with a complicated yet interesting idea for a fantasy story, or a haunting idea for a horror story.

What is your least favorite genre to write? Read?
i can never bring myself to read non-fiction, it’s like i have a grudge against the world or something. as for writing, i dislike horror the most. probably because i’m a scaredy cat myself so i don’t know how to write something actually scary to spook someone who is into the horror genre. if that makes sense.

What are your thoughts on werewolves and vampires always being "hot" or "sexy" in YA novels?
it was a cool idea to me at first because i’ve always thought vampires were really rad, but it’s just so unoriginal and annoying now.
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Re: ❛ the lazy writers ❜ V2

Postby anxious ghost » Thu Jan 11, 2018 4:31 pm

I need some help? How do you guys come up with good plotlines? Cuz I've only ever really come up with one and I don't know how to recreate that process. I have at least one character, and a couple of random ideas. Any advice would be appreciated!

Can you listen to music with lyrics, or can you only listen to instrumental music while writing?
It depends. Some days I'm more distracted than others, but usually I just listen to whatever I've been listening to. Other times I listen to to Lindsey Stirling.

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Re: ❛ the lazy writers ❜ V2

Postby Ranger of the North » Thu Jan 11, 2018 6:46 pm

Guys — guys help — little sister put way to much peppermint in my hot chocolate and now my eyeballs leak if I breathe 😂 😭


Have you ever written fanfiction? If yes, what was it of? If no, would you consider it?
Yup! I wrote one chapter of one Star Wars fanfic a couple years ago, and dropped it almost immediately XD I don't think I really have the attention-span or dedication to commit myself to someone else's world XD


What is your favorite genre to write? Read?
Adventure-fantasy-fantasy-adventure!!


What is your least favorite genre to write? Read?
Horror and heavy romance


What are your thoughts on werewolves and vampires always being "hot" or "sexy" in YA novels?
Never encountered 'em; they don't sound hot though, lol


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I'll check 'em out soon, Soul c:


Can you listen to music with lyrics, or can you only listen to instrumental music while writing?
I am a proud-but-half-regretful sound-addict; I can do almost anything, especially if I've heard it before c;


Out of the three stories above, which story seems the most interesting? What seems the least interesting and why?
My ears definitely perked at mention of The Gallery c:


anxious ghost wrote:I need some help? How do you guys come up with good plotlines? Cuz I've only ever really come up with one and I don't know how to recreate that process. I have at least one character, and a couple of random ideas. Any advice would be appreciated!
I'm having this problem, too! Help our poor afflicted souls, @everyone-else XD
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Re: ❛ the lazy writers ❜ V2

Postby Yubel Fated » Thu Jan 11, 2018 8:30 pm

Can you listen to music with lyrics, or can you only listen to instrumental music while writing?

I can listen to music with lyrics under two circumstances: 1, if they're in another language or 2, if I've listened to the song enough and it becomes background noise.

Out of the three stories above, which story seems the most interesting? What seems the least interesting and why?
... To be honest? All three sound very interesting and none of them really sound... Uninteresting if that makes any sense.

A Demon's Past....... I like demons okay? I for some reason keep being drawn to these kinds of books/pieces of media. I'm following a comic that has Lucifer following around a teen because of some mistake someone made at a certain factory. I watched an anime about the lord of the underworld working at a knockoff mcdonalds So teenager dreaming about the past of a demon? Sign me the heck up! I'm by no means comparing A Demon's Past to -blehh- and Me and the Devil is a Part-Timer. I... I just like the concept in general and am curious as to where this book will lead.

The Gallery gives me kind of Ib undertones in regards to the plot revolving around pictures and having a young girl as the protagonist. I hope its not horror. Dear lord I do not want to go through that again. Spooks for days. I will say though I am interested in finding out who the Artist is and how exactly everything went down the toilet for the paintings to be thrown from their canvases like that. I also wonder what kind of character Nanna is.

I'll definitely follow this book to see how everything plays out.


The Ruins of Ambrosia City: I usually don't read these kinds of stories. Why? I dunno myself. But, reading the description of this story... and yeah, you probably figured out what i was gonna say "I wonder how everything plays out" I've said this for all three right? I want to see her spiral into madness. I want to see how these dragons and a bipolar wolf save the friggen day. How was she beside them? What the frig is going on? And just why? Why?

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A Demon's Past: I like Demons and am drawn to these kinds of stories for some reason. I'm interested about his past and wonder where its going to take her.

The Gallery: I flat out like the concept entirely and find it very interesting. It gives me spooky Ib vibes and I hope it isn't horror.

Ruins of Ambrosia City: I don't usually read these kinds of stories but after reading the description of the story it really interests me and makes me question a lot of things that are going to happen.


Yes I said i'm interested in all three. It may sound like I'm bluffing or whatever. But I truely want to see where these books go. I can keep going and sound like a broken record. Buut I'm not. Because that would be boring and that would require more reading on your part... and it would be annoying for everyone involved. So lets not do that yeah?

*I'm not taking chances with the actual comics name.

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anxious ghost wrote:I need some help? How do you guys come up with good plotlines? Cuz I've only ever really come up with one and I don't know how to recreate that process. I have at least one character, and a couple of random ideas. Any advice would be appreciated!
I'm having this problem, too! Help our poor afflicted souls, @everyone-else XD


..... I didn't see this question earlier. But to be honest... I don't. I'm winging it on 2/3rds of my stories.

Tempting Fate only has a story because it's based off of a game. So its a really shotty story.

Restructure only has a story because it came from a dream.... Quite literally.

The only things I can suggest are going onto sites like Tumblr and Pinterest and looking up prompts. There are some really good ones that you can turn into story ideas if not oneshots.

Another thing I liked doing while in my Hetalia phase was Song-shots. In which I listened to a song on repeat and created a story based off of it using the song lines as inbetweeners as a sort of context. You could alternatively do without the context inbetweener. But I dunno. Story based on a song.

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Re: ❛ the lazy writers ❜ V2

Postby Ranger of the North » Thu Jan 11, 2018 8:53 pm

DaigurenHyorinmaru wrote:Also Ranger don't die! Be strong!
I'll do my best, but the mint might be stronger :lol:


Guys, look; my main-character was supposed to be kicking a pile of leaves:
‘Snorting, Logue kicked at he knees’
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Re: ❛ the lazy writers ❜ V2

Postby passione » Thu Jan 11, 2018 9:50 pm

Can you listen to music with lyrics, or can you only listen to instrumental music while writing?

I can't listen to purely instrumental music no matter what. I need a voice to fill the void.

by the way, does anyone have any tips for writing Sonnets? I have to do that next writing class and I am very confused.
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Re: ❛ the lazy writers ❜ V2

Postby cosmic-quark » Fri Jan 12, 2018 6:01 am

Have you ever written fanfiction? If yes, what was it of? If no, would you consider it?
I've written a few- a couple Artemis Fowl ones way back in middle school and then a few Voltron ones more recently. I'm involved in several fandom rps too, which is kinda like writing fanfiction except you're only expected to properly portray one or two characters rather than the whole cast. That's mostly why I prefer writing original fiction- it's much, much easier to depict characters I've spent several years developing, drawing, and writing than somebody else's characters.

What is your favorite genre to write? Read?
I am almost exclusively a fantasy writer (especially considering sci-fi falls under the overarching fantasy umbrella). I haven't had much luck writing high fantasy so far though- almost all of my attempts never got past the development stage. I've mostly written urban fantasy or sci-fi over the last few years. I have a complete first draft of my superhero-themed nanowrimo story waiting for revision, a multi-dimensional ghost-hunting disaster still in development, and a trilogy in progress about alien ship that crash-landed on Earth (although it only crashes at the end of the first book, and the entire novel before that is about two stressed college students trying to decode mysterious signals and also not drop out of senior year). Even my magnum opus, featuring characters I've been developing for a solid five years and a plot that's been reworked too many times to count, is urban fantasy- it's a supernatural thriller in which the main characters sort of start the apocalypse and are immediately astounded by how little changes in the world.

My absolute favorite genre to read is realistic sci-fi. Stuff like The Martian, Jurassic Park + The Lost World, etc. I love love love science (I'm actually studying to be astrophysicist rn), and reading books where vague scientific dreams become reality through actual plausible means fascinates me. Reading books like that makes fantasy seem almost reachable. I also really like how human the characters tend to be, how they seem to come alive on the page. Psychological stuff is really cool too, especially in the context of other genres- books dealing with recovery after an intergalactic war, the frankly terrible social implications of a universe with soulmates, the realities of being a child soldier (because yes, almost all of those 17 year old protagonists and dystopian heroines are by definition child soldiers), etc. I like when books give real, defined consequences to all the horrors YA lit has desensitized us to. No adult would just brush off half the things those protagonists go through, much less some teenager. Psychological horror is also fun.

What is your least favorite genre to write? Read?
Like seemingly everyone else on this thread, I'm not a fan of romance (although as an aromantic asexual, I'm definitely biased). The books tend to be cliche and sappy, and you could switch any protagonist with another one with absolutely no noticeable difference. The plot also usually usually revolves around manufactured drama, which was never appealing to me. I did try to write a romance short story for camp nano though, mostly because I strongly believe you can't be a good writer without stepping out of your comfort zone. It was kind of a satire on the manic pixie dream girl trope, since the relationship had somewhat of a power imbalance and ended up being extremely unhealthy. I couldn't resist making it urban fantasy too- the girl was technically immortal. I never connected to it though, and ended up not even finishing it. (Interestingly enough, this was the only story I wrote in the past five years where the main romance was between two characters of the opposite genders, though neither were heterosexual.)

Other than romance, my other least favorite genre to read is surprisingly fantasy. Or, specifically, YA lit fantasy. I love most of the big name fantasy (Harry Potter, PJATO, The Raven Cycle, etc), but I would almost never pick up a fantasy book that wasn't big name. The plots tend to be fairly cliche, the characters read like they were all made from the same mold, and the romance is predictable beyond belief. And if there's a love triangle? Forget about it. I'm tired of reading about the same cast of straight white teens with the collective personalities of a brick wall. The unnecessary emphasis on romance especially throws me off. I try to stick to indie authors or online publication with fantasy.


What are your thoughts on werewolves and vampires always being "hot" or "sexy" in YA novels?

Considering the cultural origin of both of these, I absolutely do not understand this new trend. I like reading about vampires and werewolves, but sexualizing literal monsters just doesn't make any sense. What's the appeal? My favorite supernatural novels portray them as what they really are- dangerous. I especially like Guillermo del Toro's series The Strain, The Fall, and The Night Eternal about a hostile vampire takeover of the Earth. Fair warning though- this is very much an adult book and I wouldn't recommend it to anyone not prepared for excessive violence and some sexual situations.

Can you listen to music with lyrics, or can you only listen to instrumental music while writing?

I tend not to listen to music at all when I'm writing, but I definitely prefer lyrical. I just listen to one of my playlists on my phone and the words are so familiar, I don't really have to pay attention to them. It helps block out any distractions and actually focus on my writing for once. It can also help get me in the mood for a certain scene if I'm struggling with it, though generally I try drawing it out first.

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Personally, I like to start out with the characters and a vague idea of the surrounding world. I usually sketch out some ideas until I come up with an interesting character design and then draw them in different scenarios. By the time I actually have them developed with a fairly solid personality, I usually have a pretty good idea of what kind of world they live in. Then I sketch out a few more characters (bc showing character relationships makes for a much stronger artwork and a much more realistic work of fiction) until I have a vague cast.

This is when I usually come up with the plot. I start by asking myself what the characters can do in the world I placed them in. Is there somewhere to go? A goal to reach? A danger to avoid? Then, I figure out what each character wants. Temporary goals can help characterize, but ultimate goals are the key to finding the plot. Once I figure out what the main character(s) want, I decide on how they get it and what obstacles they have to face first. The main character's goal is almost always the most important, but other characters have to be considered too.

This is usually when I start working on the actual outline and the plot becomes more defined. This is also, unfortunately, when I start cutting characters. Every character has to be justified in a novel; if they don't serve a purpose or their removal wouldn't affect the novel, they don't need to be there. I try to ask myself three basic questions for each character: Are they an interesting, realistic, and well-developed character with an understandable motivation? Do they have a justifiable reason for being there (both in the narrative itself and in their placement in the story, such as tagging along on a quest or helping retrieve an artefact)? Do they affect the main plot and other characters' decisions in a significant way? If I can't answer "yes" to all three questions, then I cut out the character (or at the very least drastically edit their role and characterization).

When I'm satisfied with my outline, I go back and flesh out the minor details. Continuity is especially important here. I also try to make sure I have 2-3 subplots that contribute to various character arcs and development without distracting from the main story. The entire process generally lasts a month or two, though I can finish it in less than a week if I'm in a rush to start writing (like this year's nanowrimo oops). Then, I take a break from the story for at least a week and at most a few months before revistiting it. If I'm still interested in the story and satisfied with the plot, I start writing.

Hope that helped!

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Re: ❛ the lazy writers ❜ V2

Postby Winchester's Wolf » Fri Jan 12, 2018 11:45 am

@~teypie~ ; of course you are exited about Ambrosia City xD
I am halfway through Abyss' chapter.

@anxious ghost; thanks i kinda died a little. And I'm not going to put Demon's Past on here, because of many reasons. but the only thing that I'm going to put on Cs is Ambrosia City, since the Gallery would have my actual name in the thng becasue i'm da artist c:

@ranger; Ambrosia is the least liked from everyone lol xD
The Gallery and A Demon's Past are both tired together lol.

@anxious ghost & RangerAnd the answer to your question from me is that I'd just write something down, like a boring chapter, before actually developing the plot. Just like in the demon's past, it used to be a small Chara and Asriel story, but it turned to be a demon judging a man's soul, in which he turns out guilty.


@DaigurenHyorinmaru; hehehe. I just finished The Devil is a Part-Timer! And i could pick out a few parts to where I could add a few ideas from there onto my story. but I'm going to push past that lol. but the haunted manor seems to be a fine part to add as Anna and the Demon -Whose name is Vakal- goes to a ball together lol.

There was at least one other person who said that, but its surprisingly not based around Ib.I honestly did not mean it to have it like Ib, but as I was typing it, it did remind me of Ib. but it did not dawn on me when I wrote a few pages of it. And don't worry, its not horror. The only horror its going to be A Demon's Past because something happens. >:3 and surprise the artist is meeeeee! only because i said before that I wanna try by putting myself into the story like Markus Zusak did and it was pretty interesting c;

Nanna is going to be this laid-back character, refusing the call. but she ewill eventually accept it when one of the characters explain to her that they would not fit well into the world that she lives in because on how they have different things about them. Like how Vakal is a demon and how people will think wrong about him and all. Along with Aster and Discord.

As for Ambrosia City, what I mean by that the queen was beside them the whole time, I meant physically there. I'm going to stop there because i'm not going to spoil the plot twist hehehe.

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Notebooks, pencils, erasers, sketchpad, laptop, water (or hot chocolate), music, online dictionary, an actual dictionary (if the wifi goes out), grammerly, comfy pajamas, slippers, and my Umbreon & Espeon plush c; (Also tv for comfort as well)

Are there any stories you're putting off writing? Why?
...Many. I'm putting off A Demon's Past since I have lost a little inspiration, along with everytime I open my school email and i listen to music (i use youtube) and its restricted. aND I'm a bit stuck.

What would you consider your magnum opus?
I say the characters since it gives me inspiration to draw adn to be put in the stories as well.
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What are your favorite character tropes to use in your writing? To see in other writing?
i like to have a character thats in denial of the call at first, but gets to understand of why this is happening to them. I would like to see that the character is struggign with real like troubles, like how the world is changing around them. However, I prefer to have it back in the days, like 1987 or somethin like that.

Do you prefer developing characters or plot first? Why?
I prefer developing characters first because it would help me with the plot line, however if I do not have anything for character development, I come with up with the plot.

What do you do to help get you "in the mood"?
Exercising. And doing chores along with drawing. i guess drawing is the crucial part of it because of character development.

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Here's an expert from the two stories, the reason why Ambrosia City is not lister because I'm not done with the first chapter yet:

A Demon's Past:

There was no telling if the man was lying or not. Although it would be rather much easier if the demon would choose for him to die. That's what demons do... Right? I glanced over to the side before looking back at the demon who's back was facing me. there was really no reason for the demon to take this long to judge a soul. They shouldn't really be judging souls after all, angles were supposed to, but ironically this demon was judging.

The demon reached about 6'7" and wielded a black and golden trident that was probably 7'7". He wore a dark grey turtleneck and black pants with no shoes. Usually the town hall would have a sign up in the window, alerting the visitors that if they did not have clothes, such in this case shoes, they were not permitted to enter. But why did he get to enter with no shoes? Well obviously I mentioned that he was judging souls. Back to the demon, he had white fur and black ram horns that reached the bottom part of one of the side prongs of the trident. One of the horns was longer than the other, indicating that he might've broken one of them some time ago.

I watched as the demon twirled the giant fork around in his hand before forcing it down upon the man who was now guilty.

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This is just the beginning of the prologue. of A Demon's Past, since it goes into detail of what happened to the man. cx

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The Gallery;

It seems like the most important characters are always in the foreground. The second most character (or characters) are by the first most important character while the least important character(s) are all in the background. Or dead and not on the masterpiece so they could be forgotten. Or they are just not that important.

Whoever the artist who created this masterpiece was trying to tell us something. But what?

I turned to my sister Brooke, who was examining the artwork right next to the one I was looking at. I quickly glanced down at the golden plate that was below the framed canvas that displayed the caption and the artist name. I read the black letters and sighed in disbelief. The plate read: 'Just a Secret' - Artist Unknown, just the like the one in front of me.

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Re: ❛ the lazy writers ❜ V2

Postby TheSongOfTheStars » Fri Jan 12, 2018 11:55 am

What's in your writer's survival kit?
Notebook, loose leaf paper, and pencils.
Are there any stories you're putting off writing? Why?
Yes, quite a few, mostly because I either don't have a solid plot line or I feel like I'm not experienced enough to do what I really want with the story
What would you consider your magnum opus?
Ummm.... Idk? I don't have anything I'm super proud of.
What are your favorite character tropes to use in your writing? To see in other writing?
Umm, orphans or single parent families apparently, I use it probably too much. I also like mismatched best friends who have no buisness being buddies but work out their differences (with nor romance involved )
Do you prefer developing characters or plot first? Why?
Well, both I suppose. It happens simultaneously.
What do you do to help get you "in the mood"?
Music.

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