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Be Aware of Reptile Mills and Pet Store Abuse & Neglect

Postby gex » Thu Dec 05, 2013 1:11 pm

I know there is already a reptile thread, but it just doesn't cover or exaggerate enough how easy it is to pass right by animal abuse when it comes to reptiles.

I am sure you have all heard of puppy mills and stuff like that, where they force breed dogs to mass produce puppies to sell to pet stores? Well this isn't just the case with dogs. The same thing happens with cats, rodents, reptiles, and almost any other kind of animal you can think of buying in a pet store.

A lot of people don't find reptiles to be good pets, but I am part of a large community of people who adore the scaly and slimy little creatures. I see reptile neglect, abuse, and mistreatment on a regular basis. And I'm not just talking about in the hands of inexperienced and uneducated pet owners, but at the hands of people who's jobs are supposed to be to take care of these creatures.

I see people at pet stores (not sure if i'm allowed to name the businesses, so i'm just gonna say big name pet stores) who are specifically in charge of taking care of/feeding/giving water to/cleaning up after reptiles who don't know how to do their jobs right. There must not be an instruction manual for new workers at these big name pet stores, or no requirements at all for research or education on how to take care of something with needs different from a human's, because I see this happen at almost ever store I go to.

Sometimes they like to say things like, "Oh, we do this because it is the company policy" or "We don't have enough time to give each animal what it needs all the time" but these are not valid excuses. If there is something in the company policy that is responsibly for killing innocent baby animals, then someone, maybe a lot of someones, should speak up and request for it to be changed. If there is no time in a worker's schedule to care for animals, then hire somebody who does have time. Maybe even just ask for volunteers to do it! God knows I would sign up!

But even worse than the incompetent workers, is that the stores buy from businesses who mass produce reptiles and treat them like products; like objects to be sold.

Some people reading this may be like, "Why should I care? I don't like lizards anyway." But they are not as bad as you think.

I currently have 3 leopard geckos. They are just my favorite animals. They are cute and squishy and lovable, and if you treat them right, they will love you to. Mine give me kisses all the time. They are perfect pets and cuter than cats.
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Lots of people keep these world wide, and almost every pet store sells them. But there is a difference between good healthy reptiles and sick, neglected reptiles. I am soon going to be getting a boy from a pet store in my town who just came from a mill himself. Here is a picture of a healthy leopard gecko of the same morph compared to him.

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I am hoping by the time I've have him for about a month, he will start to look like the first picture.

If you are now suddenly interested in owning a reptile, DO YOUR RESEARCH!!!
If I see someone post here saying, "Oh awesome! I'm gonna get one now! Those are so cute!" You better do your research. These animals are pretty easy to take care of. You just have to know how to do it.
I DO NOT WANT TO SEE PEOPLE BUY THESE FOR ALL THE WRONG REASONS!
The animals can live A LONG TIME and require a lot of commitment. Just like any animal, they require more than just food. You have to take care of them for 10-25 years!

If you have any questions about leopard geckos, or any other kind of reptile, there are lots of great people to ask.
I would be most willing to answer questions about leopard geckos, but there are a lot of other kinds of reptile pets i don't know much about. Here is a website where you can find more information about how to care for reptiles and they have special forums where you can specifically ask health questions, like if your animal looks sick and how to treat it.
http://geckoforums.net/forum.php

I am in no way saying "go buy a reptile! they're awesome!" I am just saying don't hate them because they don't have fur, and don't think they can't be abused.
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Re: Be Aware of Reptile Mills and Pet Store Abuse & Neglect

Postby Cardinal » Thu Dec 05, 2013 1:21 pm

Are you buying the leopard gecko from the pet store?
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Re: Be Aware of Reptile Mills and Pet Store Abuse & Neglect

Postby Charchar2 » Thu Dec 05, 2013 1:24 pm

Nynecho wrote:
and sick, neglected reptiles. I am soon going to be getting a boy from a pet store in my town who just


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Re: Be Aware of Reptile Mills and Pet Store Abuse & Neglect

Postby gex » Thu Dec 05, 2013 1:25 pm

Cardinal wrote:Are you buying the leopard gecko from the pet store?


I am most likely going to buy him. He doesn't appear to have any contagious diseases like crypto, so he would make a good pet.
He isn't from a petco or anything, he is from my local small shop that is over-stocked and under staffed. They just don't have the time to give him special attention.
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Re: Be Aware of Reptile Mills and Pet Store Abuse & Neglect

Postby Cardinal » Thu Dec 05, 2013 1:31 pm

Nynecho wrote:
Cardinal wrote:Are you buying the leopard gecko from the pet store?


I am most likely going to buy him. He doesn't appear to have any contagious diseases like crypto, so he would make a good pet.
He isn't from a petco or anything, he is from my local small shop that is over-stocked and under staffed. They just don't have the time to give him special attention.


But if they order from places that allow their herps to live in bad situations/do not give them the care they deserve.. Isn't your money just funding this? Wouldn't it make more sense to go through a good breeder and support them with your money? Giving your money to folks basically means "Hey, I'm okay with this. I support your practices" especially in animal sales.

Assume of course they didn't actually rescue him.. but then I don't know why he'd be up for sale.
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Re: Be Aware of Reptile Mills and Pet Store Abuse & Neglect

Postby gex » Thu Dec 05, 2013 1:40 pm

Cardinal wrote:
Nynecho wrote:
Cardinal wrote:Are you buying the leopard gecko from the pet store?


I am most likely going to buy him. He doesn't appear to have any contagious diseases like crypto, so he would make a good pet.
He isn't from a petco or anything, he is from my local small shop that is over-stocked and under staffed. They just don't have the time to give him special attention.


But if they order from places that allow their herps to live in bad situations/do not give them the care they deserve.. Isn't your money just funding this? Wouldn't it make more sense to go through a good breeder and support them with your money? Giving your money to folks basically means "Hey, I'm okay with this. I support your practices" especially in animal sales.

Assume of course they didn't actually rescue him.. but then I don't know why he'd be up for sale.


People all seem to think this... ugh, rescuing an animal isn't supporting abuse, even if it is giving the store your money. I am actually going to be working in this store very soon, and as soon as I am in a position to, I will ask the manager who his supplier is. He said the gecko came from the supplier like that, and it was the first time he's gotten a bad one. He has is on sale for a super low price, and he is basically saving it for me because he knows me. I will try to recommend a new supplier for him, because I would hate the shop to get a bad name by buying from mills. I have had pet stores change things for me before because they admit my way is better, so why not?

Edit: and he does get pets surrendered to him all the time. There's this lovely cockatoo in their store named Pearl (she says hi) whose owner dropped her off for a nail trimming and never came back. They are basically selling every animal they have except for the cockatoo and the cat and dog that belong to the owner.
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Re: Be Aware of Reptile Mills and Pet Store Abuse & Neglect

Postby Grimace » Thu Dec 05, 2013 1:44 pm

Nynecho wrote:rescuing an animal isn't supporting abuse, even if it is giving the store your money

...yes it is. You are directly supporting the mills with your money.
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Re: Be Aware of Reptile Mills and Pet Store Abuse & Neglect

Postby gex » Thu Dec 05, 2013 2:21 pm

Closing thread. I had a big ol' response ready to send, but voicing my opinion just gets me yelled at.

Just gonna say, ignoring problems doesn't solve them. Neither does protesting them. If you can't beat them, join them.
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Re: Be Aware of Reptile Mills and Pet Store Abuse & Neglect

Postby ƒata ρadurii » Thu Dec 05, 2013 4:03 pm

While I'd say it's a fact that buy buying pets bred at such mills you are in fact helping those mills continue their business, not buying this guy from the store because he was mill-bred won't do him any good, no matter how nice the ideals behind it.
One person can't turn around the millbreeding, but you can make the difference for this guy, so good on you for giving him the care he deserves.
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