Redwood Valley Equestrian Centre || Discussion

[landofmakebelieve]

So, while I'm waiting for my breeding or Snowy's Silver Lining and Almost Illegal, I was wondering if anyone had some show name suggestions? So far I've thought of Snowy's Partner In Crime, but I'm %100 open to suggestions!

[OutFoxed]

Norwegian Fjord Horse Registry
NFHR Rules of Registration and Transfers

ARTICLE VI - NORWEGIAN FJORD HORSE NAMES

A. In keeping with the Norwegian ancestry of the Fjord Horse, the Norwegian Fjord Horse Registry requests Norwegian names are used.

B. Horses will not be allowed to have the same name. In the case of imported horses, the foreign registration number will become part of the horse’s name.

C. Names already listed in any Registry will not be allowed to change whether the Registry is in the United States, Canada or other foreign countries.

Thought it might be of some interest to you Piaffes, and anyone else with Fjords.

I love looking up the different breed registries and discipline rule-books - but I'm a nerd, so.

I just wanted to comment on the current poll: Should types of horses get bonuses in shows they were bred for?
This has actually been bugging me since it was first posted. After reading over the possible choices a few times (or a million), I really think there should have been, another, option.

It's a really tough debate and it could go multiple ways, especially when taking in the different viewpoints.

From a realistic standpoint, I would say that you can't limit a horse to just one discipline/style - stock horses are notorious for their diversity. My friend competes for the year-end and show champion all-around amateur youth rider - which means that at one show she's in a million classes; Showmanship, Halter, Western Pleasure, English/Hunt-Seat Pleasure, Trail, Over-Fences, (my computer refuses to load an APHA show book to get all the correct classes). These classes are held to the AQHA/APHA/Stock type standards. A hunter Quarter Horse would have no business in the FEI Hunter classes. The stock type looks for a long and low, slow and steady look while FEI/warmblood style is looking for a horse who could spend the day over fences in the country - while they also look for long and low, the horse has movement and can comfortably hop an obstacle without much effort due to conformation.

Dressage can be a hard place to be - Classic, Spanish, German, Western, Gaited? Haute école? FEI? Technically dressage is meant for all horses - from backyard pony to the top German Oldenburg and a Shire or TWH. But I would never expect a Shire to do a capriole.

Show Jumping shouldn't have a penalty or bonus for horse type - the whole discipline is based on who can get over an obstacle in the fastest amount of time. There should be some thought given into if it is possible - a pony with a lot of heart might be able to get over a 6 foot obstacle but a large draft probably wouldn't have the power/strength or build to toss it's couple ton body six feet in the air.

The conformation should really reflect the typical standards - a draft's shoulders are more upright which affects the knee action but also jumping ability - a warmblood's shoulders are more slopping with limited or no knee action but allows for greater jumping ability.

From a sim game aspect; I would love if horse types would gain bonuses for disciplines - I willingly state I'm biased on this one; I love warmbloods in real life and am passionate for hunters/jumpers, so why wouldn't I want my pixel horses to have a better chance to excel. It would also help with developing horses - less crossbreeding as people(potentially) would want to enhance the stock they have instead of going just off of stats.

Would it be better then to have the associations or federations put on sanctioned events that add bonus points to breeds that fit the profile?
At level I or II shows, every horse should be shown equally without penalty, but higher ranking shows should have a penalty(bonus) towards horses who don't qualify(or do) to the association/federation standards.

Maybe an all-breed english pleasure class should be added - there's already western pleasure and not every horse is suited to be a hunter horse.

[SydneyandStorm]

Interesting points, OutFoxed! I certainly encourage you all to continue the discussion with your opinions, as what you all think is just as important as what I think, but here's how I see it:

Most (if not all) of the disciplines would be geared with the idea of the top-level disciplines; you tend to see thoroughbreds and warmbloods in non-breed specific hunters competitions (with warmbloods usually beating the thoroughbreds due to the specialization of warmbloods and changes in judges preferences recently), but occasionally the odd quarter horse will pop up and do pretty well. Same as in jumpers, dressage, cross-country, etc. -- a lot of horse breeds can excel, but it's kind of a "hard work beats natural talent" that comes into play there. So while a quarter horse might actually beat a warmblood in a couple of show jumping rounds, this won't be the case in at least 90% of high-level competitions.

Am I making sense here? I know I'm restating a lot of what you've said xD

With that being said, if the bonuses were put into place, they would be geared towards the "top-level" shows that take place in real life, but I really like the idea of not implementing them until later levels in showing, just like in real life. I also feel like if they were to be implemented, that would really increase the role of breed associations -- they'd then have incentive to create breed-specific shows, just as in real life -- and that way breeds that wouldn't necessarily be designed for the discipline could still earn prizes and win shows ^^

FEI would probably be the standard for non-breed specific disciplines, just to allow for a general standard that'll be recognized around the world. I figure warmbloods have such success in show jumping because they've got the conformation that allows them to get over the jump cleanly as well -- plenty of breeds could race over the jumps, especially thoroughbreds with steeplechases as an example, but warmbloods have uniquely proven their conformation to be such that they can get over high jumps neatly while not sacrificing speed. I do like that idea for conformation -- a bit more subjective than simply counting up the highest stats, but I like it ^^ Coats and markings could be thrown in there too in order to find a horse with the most ideal type.

I am, however, having difficulty in determining which breeds/types would get which stats, as some breeds simply don't fit into the typical disciplines as their type would, and it could get really complicated really fast if I went by each breed xD

The problem with english pleasure is, again, the accessories -- hunter horses would look exactly like english pleasure horses, and I'd just have to change the stats ever-so-slightly, which would actually be fairly hard to narrow down ^^'

Those are just my thoughts, though. I'd love to hear everyone's opinions on this!

[stabbrielle]

I'm on my iPad at the moment, could anyone get me a link to my Jiggy's image? Thank you in advance!

viewtopic.php?t=2587631

[SydneyandStorm]

Is this what you mean, captain awesome? If so, there you are c:

[stabbrielle]

That is exactly what I meant, thanks once again Syd! <3

[hypnowave]

i've got a question -- what happens if a user is unable to get on CS for a notable period of time, such as two weeks or a month, but has told RVEC so? since they are unable to do anything, will the user's barns and horses be 'frozen' or will they go as usual?
and if a user suddenly goes inactive without saying why for that much time, will their horses be forcibly taken? i'm only asking this because chances are my activity will plummet when something pops up in real life, and i don't want my horses taken just because i can't get on.

[GingerTheWolf]

Is this what you mean, captain awesome? If so, there you are c:

How do you do that

[Oddly Shaded]

Is this what you mean, captain awesome? If so, there you are c:

How do you do that

I can help although am attempting to decide what you want to know XD
1. Getting an image code;
simply right click on the image you intend to get the address for, select properties and grab the long address which is literally under the address section.
2. Linking like the above;
place the address you got above in the following formula; [url=address here]whatever you'd like to type[/url] - then it is done!

[GingerTheWolf]

Ok thank you