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Re: What's up with oekaki thumbnails?? {discussion}

Postby FangirlTrash » Fri Nov 27, 2020 12:52 pm

Div wrote:
AwkwardAnxiety wrote:I was talked off-handedly to my mom about this and apparently websites can now get fined if they cant prove art belongs to the person claiming it?? My mom thinks that's the reason for the new crackdown.



interesting observation, didn't know about that
it could be possible? but i feel like this should / could have been adressed by the site itself
however im not sure what exactly IS adressed, considering communication issues have been
a problem, resulting possibly in this situation.
generally, it's pretty easy to tell when art is being stolen
also generally, as someone who has posted off-oekaki and on oekaki-art, and have generally seen a lot of other artists do the same, it's pretty easy to recognize judging off oekaki drawings and on-oekaki drawings.


    Also thought I'd add, many other websites have mastered proper art crediting. I feel as if CS could follow similar guidelines as these websites do. (The first one that came to mind is toyhou.se)
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Re: What's up with oekaki thumbnails?? {discussion}

Postby Cr0wz » Fri Nov 27, 2020 12:53 pm

I feel like part of this issue is just the outdatedness of Oekaki. There's a reason why people use other programs for c4c entires and that's because oekaki is so bad. NO offense, I'm sure the people who made oekaki and maintain it try very hard, but it feels like it's from 2009 and it still runs like that.
There's just so many limits oekaki has and it can't compare to real art programs. If they actually made Oekaki better I feel like it would help eliminate the issue.

also as 【Entrapta】said
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kinda sounds like those locks they use.... Those seem like spam to me, unsolicited obnoxious red lock things pasted everywhere.


These locked forums seem more spammy to me than an actual real art piece/sketch
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Re: What's up with oekaki thumbnails?? {discussion}

Postby Aemond » Fri Nov 27, 2020 12:53 pm

I'm honestly not sure what's up with the oekaki thumbnails right now-- but someone drew me a new profile pic c;!

*nvm: I'm just gonna keep him saved on my computer so I can just stare at it.
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Re: What's up with oekaki thumbnails?? {discussion}

Postby BoopoThyDrago » Fri Nov 27, 2020 12:53 pm

On the topic of spam, wouldn't grabbing a ref of a new character you get be considered more spam than the c4c threads? I get it is fully on Oekaki, but it is often the exact same art, possibly with a headshot or something if the artist can use Oekaki well. IDK, I feel what is considered spam isn't clear when it comes to Oekaki.
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Re: What's up with oekaki thumbnails?? {discussion}

Postby Guest » Fri Nov 27, 2020 12:54 pm

    I'm just looking at everything from a distance and I don't really want to say much since people have already brought up some issues that I have with the whole thing.
    I do just want to say that I have seen some oekaki posts that are just. Locked? No edit footnote from a mod or anything, either. Just,,, locked. And these are quite recent as well. Is there any reason for this, or??
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Re: What's up with oekaki thumbnails?? {discussion}

Postby FangirlTrash » Fri Nov 27, 2020 12:54 pm

Cr0wz wrote:I feel like part of this issue is just the outdatedness of Oekaki. There's a reason why people use other programs for c4c entires and that's because oekaki is so bad. NO offense, I'm sure the people who made oekaki and maintain it try very hard, but it feels like it's from 2009 and it still runs like that.
There's just so many limits oekaki has and it can't compare to real art programs. If they actually made Oekaki better I feel like it would help eliminate the issue.

also as 【Entrapta】said
【Entrapta】 wrote:
kinda sounds like those locks they use.... Those seem like spam to me, unsolicited obnoxious red lock things pasted everywhere.


These locked forums seem more spammy to me than an actual real art piece/sketch


    I really enjoy how they organized the Oekaki boards, but they seem to have neglected the actual program.
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Re: What's up with oekaki thumbnails?? {discussion}

Postby Cr0wz » Fri Nov 27, 2020 12:55 pm

fuzzywyrmz wrote:
    I'm just looking at everything from a distance and I don't really want to say much since people have already brought up some issues that I have with the whole thing.
    I do just want to say that I have seen some oekaki posts that are just. Locked? No edit footnote from a mod or anything, either. Just,,, locked. And these are quite recent as well. Is there any reason for this, or??


I feel honestly it's the mods giving up on explaining. Since they're locking SO many things they're probably tired of giving a reason and just smacking down that lock and calling it a day
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Re: What's up with oekaki thumbnails?? {discussion}

Postby Sunlitsecrets » Fri Nov 27, 2020 12:57 pm

I'm a traditional artist, while I meddle in digital art every so often when needed pen and paper is where it's at for me. And I'm not on this site for my art to be seen or the like, my main reason for being here is that I love the ARPGs and closed species on this website, and enjoy getting involved in them.

Many of these ARPGs are okekai-based and if I want to make myos or the like for the group and there are no pre-made lines, I have to make a cover. These have never been locked in the past so I agree with the person who was saying that no, it hasn't been enforced. Here's my most recent cover, late September - as of posting this it is still unlocked.

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Okekai doesn't work on most of the devices in the house, for me. Mobile doesn't work, and my main computer has something weird going on where I can't increase the line size of the drawing tools, making drawing things pretty impossible. This means if I want to try and struggle through making digital art for a character, I've got to head down to the one computer in the house that's new enough where it works - and that doesn't always work, because my mother uses that one, too. So often I get a bit stuck.

Not entirely sure what I'm trying to say other than I'm concerned about this like all of you and I'll be following this conversation. This really feels like something that would narrow down the amount of closed species I'd be able to participate in on the myo front, which is kind of sad to me.
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Re: What's up with oekaki thumbnails?? {discussion}

Postby Guest » Fri Nov 27, 2020 12:57 pm

Cr0wz wrote:
fuzzywyrmz wrote:
    I'm just looking at everything from a distance and I don't really want to say much since people have already brought up some issues that I have with the whole thing.
    I do just want to say that I have seen some oekaki posts that are just. Locked? No edit footnote from a mod or anything, either. Just,,, locked. And these are quite recent as well. Is there any reason for this, or??


I feel honestly it's the mods giving up on explaining. Since they're locking SO many things they're probably tired of giving a reason and just smacking down that lock and calling it a day

That doesn't feel like it's right, though.
I know users of said posts w/o a note/edit footnote/idk what to call it, and as far as I know, they haven't been messaged about it. It just feels like you're leaving your users in the dust all confused about what they could have done that was wrong?
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Postby Guest » Fri Nov 27, 2020 12:59 pm

Moth Man wrote:I'm honestly not sure what's up with the oekaki thumbnails right now-- but someone drew me a new profile pic c;!


    if you don't have anything constructive to contribute to this thread, do not say anything at all.
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