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Re: ethics

Postby Sharubii » Mon Jun 13, 2011 9:47 am

Shop pets aren't real-world currency -- they're bought from the store shop, which uses online currency to buy, which is bought with real-world currency. It is not the same as paying real money for the piece of art; besides, it's not allowed on this site to trade art, pets, etc for actual money.

And really, it's up to the commissioner to do the research and decide if a shop is unethical. Simply looking at the posts in a thread can help you decide, as those who wait awhile for pieces of art may post saying things like "Are you working on my order?" Even if there's no indication if an art shop is ethical or not, it's not like your life is over if you've wasted a measly month or more waiting for a piece of art that the artist has no obligation to complete. If you've already given the person your payment and they don't refund you, then report them.
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Re: ethics

Postby Clockwork » Mon Jun 13, 2011 10:09 am

Artists provide something unique and impossible to imitate. The artists here on CS are generous enough to put their time and effort into something completely unique and adroit and accept something as measly and invaluable as replications of virtual images with no 'real' value. To think that these invaluable...collections are worth more or even equal to their time is preposterous, but they welcome it as payment anyway. There is nothing 'unethical' about it. And you're complaining because they didn't accept your order?
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Re: ethics

Postby Flicka » Mon Jun 13, 2011 10:23 am

*sigh* no ones getting at all what im saying. your all getting hot headed for something as simple as a suggestion.
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Re: ethics

Postby Sharubii » Mon Jun 13, 2011 10:43 am

Lol, 'hotheaded'. I don't believe I'm getting hotheaded about this at all. Just debating a little.

If you feel that we don't understand what you're trying to say, perhaps try to say it in a way that's more understandable (or at least different than what you've been repeating for a few posts)? :P
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Re: ethics

Postby Harpalyce » Mon Jun 13, 2011 10:56 am

As a wise man once said, "caveat emptor" - let the buyer beware.
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Re: ethics

Postby Flicka » Mon Jun 13, 2011 11:35 am

your the only one who isn't. and thank you for that.



Actually my new concern is that say in the next 5-10 years I wanna have kids by that time I'll be planning to hand down my account to them and I want them to have ethnics like people in regular jobs have, artists hired staff so it's essentially a job, no matter the persons age as long as they color good and imaginative. children are very imprintable say my child learns that he or she can say that they're going to do a piece of art for someone then do not complete the order nothing of course happens, but then they start implementing that learned behavior in the real world..


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Re: ethics

Postby | Aloy | » Mon Jun 13, 2011 11:40 am

I'm sorry, but in my opinion, if you don't want to find an unethical shop, don't buy art here. There are scammers/cheaters/slow people everywhere. Yes, some people are like that here. Not the majority here though. If you are afraid that kids will be swayed, then you really don't give us kids enough credit =P
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Re: ethics

Postby brian emo » Mon Jun 13, 2011 11:48 am

I'm sorry, but you have lots of run-on sentences and I'm finding them a bit tricky to understand.
Are you saying the CS artists are unethical?
Are you suggestion that just because a person didn't accept your unwanted Easter eggs, it's not fair? I have yet to see an unethical shop on CS, or one run by a scammer.
The thing that really gets me the most is the fact that you really thought they'd want your Easter eggs now, when you really can't do anything with them, in exchange for a unique creation that takes lots of time and effort.
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Re: ethics

Postby Harpalyce » Mon Jun 13, 2011 12:03 pm

I do make art because I enjoy it, but if you expect me to make art for you, you damn well better be paying me with something of value. I can't buy food with CS pets or easter eggs, so that's why I don't have an art shop here.

If you're passing down this account to your children, by the time they are old enough to play this game, use it as an opportunity to teach them about how not everyone is trustworthy, and how they must find a fair price to make an agreement with a person they are buying a specialized item from.

If the above poster is right and you were trying to buy with easter eggs now... the artist was completely in the right to be rather aggravated with that. I'm guessing they were taking orders well, in order, and yours came out of the time that easter eggs were viable payment. It's like trying to pay someone with a bunch of bananas. Your bananas may be perfectly fine one week, but if they're only wanting to trade for you three weeks from now, they will be upset if you try to give them a pile of mush and fruit flies.
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Re: ethics

Postby Yunyi » Mon Jun 13, 2011 12:19 pm

Okay, I honestly think that the child thing is silly. There are plenty of other things that will make a much larger impression on kids than this pet site. I really doubt that the situation that you've been in will cause them to think that it's "okay "to be '"unethical." I find it hard to believe that your concern for children is the real reason behind this topic; I think it's more likely that you're annoyed that you never got the art that you ordered. There isn't a single mention of children in your original post, only a mention that you want "unethical" artists to be punished.

And I enjoy art. That's why I even began doing it on this site. But the fact is, I spend hours and hours on a single piece of art. There is no way that I'm going to sacrifice hours and hours of my time for random strangers on the Internet without receiving something in return. And do you know what I am getting in return? Pictures. Pictures of dogs. Pictures of cats. In return for hours of my own free time. People who order art will be able to keep that art forever, but artists will never gain that lost time back. Hours add up very quickly. Artists can easily NOT draw anything for you at all and do other things that they enjoy or draw for themselves, but they don't.
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