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[ouraniae]

shoot me if this is off-topic but
does anyone know if deviantart is a good place to host poetry? i know it's mostly art and all but i figured written word wouldn't be all that bad (and it feels like it has slightly more security)

[watermelon.]

Anyone know a good, short book?
Ugh I need 3 more points for a hundred percent. It's due tomorrow... IT'S ALREADY 8! I haven't done all my reading or math yet..

rawr nano is going to be impossible -.- I barely have time to be on here

[WilloweWolf]

shoot me if this is off-topic but
does anyone know if deviantart is a good place to host poetry? i know it's mostly art and all but i figured written word wouldn't be all that bad (and it feels like it has slightly more security)

From what I've seen of my sister's deviantart, it is. She has a few of the poems our great-granmother wrote on hers, along with some of her stories.(But don't tell her I told you that, she'll be giving me the evil glare for a month.)

[Solar Flare]

shoot me if this is off-topic but
does anyone know if deviantart is a good place to host poetry? i know it's mostly art and all but i figured written word wouldn't be all that bad (and it feels like it has slightly more security)

It's excellent for sharing, but there have been cases of artwork (etc) being sold to companies for their use- and it's a part of the terms and agreements, I believe. (Just to provide the other view)

[*~.Imagination.~*]

Okay this isn't super conventional, but for forensics i have to write an original oratory, and i was wondering if anyone wanted to critique it? It's like a speech, more than a story, buuut-

Kimberly Harbison
Boys Will Be Trash

You all know the old saying- “Boys will be trash.”
Wait, that’s not how it goes? Oh, oh sorry, my bad. Boys will be boys. That’s the one. Although, doesn’t it sort of seem like the two phrases could be used interchangeably? Think about it. Think about all the different things our society attempts to cushion, or justify with this phrase.
Roughhousing? Boys will be boys.
Verbal harassment? Well, boys will be boys.
Destruction of private property? We all make mistakes- besides boys will be boys.
Sexual assault? Bullying? Rape?
Well, boys will be boys.
And if you ask me, maybe the reason this behavior is so prevalent is because of the phrase, “Boys will be boys”. Or, if not the phrase itself, at least the attitude behind it.
Now by this point, some of you already probably think I’m overreacting. It’s just an expression, it can’t really be that harmful, right? I, however, will attempt to use my time today to propose a complete and total eradication of this phrase from our vocabulary. Hopefully, when you hear my reasoning, you’ll want to, as well.
Let us begin at the most fundamental level of analysis- what meaning do these words convey, and why.
Now the phrase itself is something we can all understand, right? This saying doesn’t exactly seem like it came out of the mouth of a brain surgeon or rocket scientist- and definitely not a female one, at that. I could easily replicate it a thousand different ways. Water will be water. Sloths will be sloths. Sharpie markers will be sharpie markers. I will be forever alone. Err, strike that last one. My point is, though, that the literal meaning of the saying is not all that revolutionary. Thus, we have to analyze the connotations behind it. Why is it used? Why, in its most fundamental state, do people say, “Boys will be boys”? The answer is, of course, to excuse bad behavior. That is the only time this phrase is ever implemented. In its beginning stages, its usually just used as a way to get by with bad parenting.
Oh, my son just threw mud on your daughters dress? I should probably admonish him in some way, explain to him why that was wrong, show him the consequences of his actions, prompt him to apologize, and offer some sort of compensation for the ruined wardrobe. That, however, sounds like an awful lot of work compared to the alternative- laughing it off and reusing the old cliche, “Oh, haha- you know, boys will be boys!”
This, effectively, protects me from any and all responsibility concerning my child’s misdemeanor, allowing me to claim his misbehavior was purely biological, and in no way based on what a crap job I am doing as a parent. Score!
I mean, it’s the perfect out, right? As long as we just generalize the entire male population as inherently aggressive, rude, rebellious, dirty mongrels, no one has to take responsibility for anything!
Except, of course, girls. In India rape in particular is extremely prevalent and violent, presently. Back in May, two girls went out to a field together, only to be raped, murdered, and hung from a tree. Disturbed, people protested, and a bill was proposed for stricter punishments for rapists. However, this was protested by Mulayam Yadav, head of the Samajwadi political Party, who said on the matter,
“Boys will be boys. They make mistakes.”
Because someone has to take the blame, right? If a boy rapes someone, you know it’s not really his fault. He’s a guy, it’s biological, it’s instinct. But, there’s a flaw in the phrase. Guys, in our society, do not always rape girls. Since it doesn’t always happen, it can’t be just because they’re boys- there has to be another reason. But we don’t want to admit that there just isn’t an excuse for the behavior of men. So it was the girl. If a boy rapes a girl, it is because she provoked him. She lead him on. She didn’t check her drink. She was wasn’t in a group. She was drunk. Boys will be boys, but at what expense to girls?
Not only does it hurt girls through victim blaming, but even when public opinion remains neutral toward them, telling them “boys will be boys” essentially strips their right to be angry when wronged. Even when a girl is justifiably upset at something a boy did to her, repeating this phrase disempowers her. It tells her this is just the way it is. It isn’t his fault, he was born like that. That’s life. Half the population is simply inherently aggressive, predatory, and incapable of transformation.
So essentially, we are saying, “you don’t have a right to be upset at anyone, because it’s no ones fault.”
Even though it is.
But since we socialize girls from young ages to either not recognize or just to excuse the harmful actions of boys, we teach them to be docile, and not to get mad when their treated badly by men, because that’s the way it is. Boy’s will be boys. We are taking away women’s voices, their basic right to justice. This is a form of dehumanization, to both boys and girls, and this attitude in our society is theorized to be a major contributor to the amount of abusive relationships that women find themselves in later on in life.
We tell ourselves that this cannot be the reason, though. We trick ourselves into, once again, blaming biology instead of society. We say, girls just mature faster than boys. But I don’t think this is true- not to the extent that we try to justify it. We allow boys to continue childish, selfish behavior, which continues to grow and manifest itself into harmful, abusive qualities, because we never stopped excusing their actions- because we never gave them consequences. And part of reason we think girls just mature earlier is because we continue to hold them accountable, bombard them with rules and regulations so that they know how to be, “A proper young lady”, and then allow men to sexualize them at increasingly younger ages. We force our girls to grow up- we thrust them into their “place” before they can even become away that other places exist. But our boys? We excuse their destructive behavior until the last breath. Not their last breath though. The last breath of the girls they silenced with their manhood. Because to be a boy, is to be in control. To be a boy is not to know consequence. To be a boy is to have the world bending backwards to make sure you never have to take responsibility.
The phrase “Boys will be boys” represents a harmful ideal in our society, and when used to excuse negative actions, not only enables future discrepancies, but also implies these actions are inherent of the male gender. Thus, this phrase itself equates all boys to bullies, harassers, abusers, rapists, and every other terrible thing that our society attempts to cushion with this cliche. It sets up a future generation of chaotic men and silenced women. It sets our society up for failure. Please join me in the destruction of this phrase. Together, we can eliminate the idea that “boys will be boys”, and start implementing the idea that people will be held accountable for their actions regardless of gender.

[Silverhart]

Okay this isn't super conventional, but for forensics i have to write an original oratory, and i was wondering if anyone wanted to critique it? It's like a speech, more than a story, buuut-

Kimberly Harbison
Boys Will Be Trash

You all know the old saying- “Boys will be trash.”
Wait, that’s not how it goes? Oh, oh sorry, my bad. Boys will be boys. That’s the one. Although, doesn’t it sort of seem like the two phrases could be used interchangeably? Think about it. Think about all the different things our society attempts to cushion, or justify with this phrase.
Roughhousing? Boys will be boys.
Verbal harassment? Well, boys will be boys.
Destruction of private property? We all make mistakes- besides boys will be boys.
Sexual assault? Bullying? Rape?
Well, boys will be boys.
And if you ask me, maybe the reason this behavior is so prevalent is because of the phrase, “Boys will be boys”. Or, if not the phrase itself, at least the attitude behind it.
Now by this point, some of you already probably think I’m overreacting. It’s just an expression, it can’t really be that harmful, right? I, however, will attempt to use my time today to propose a complete and total eradication of this phrase from our vocabulary. Hopefully, when you hear my reasoning, you’ll want to, as well.
Let us begin at the most fundamental level of analysis- what meaning do these words convey, and why.
Now the phrase itself is something we can all understand, right? This saying doesn’t exactly seem like it came out of the mouth of a brain surgeon or rocket scientist- and definitely not a female one, at that. I could easily replicate it a thousand different ways. Water will be water. Sloths will be sloths. Sharpie markers will be sharpie markers. I will be forever alone. Err, strike that last one. My point is, though, that the literal meaning of the saying is not all that revolutionary. Thus, we have to analyze the connotations behind it. Why is it used? Why, in its most fundamental state, do people say, “Boys will be boys”? The answer is, of course, to excuse bad behavior. That is the only time this phrase is ever implemented. In its beginning stages, its usually just used as a way to get by with bad parenting.
Oh, my son just threw mud on your daughters dress? I should probably admonish him in some way, explain to him why that was wrong, show him the consequences of his actions, prompt him to apologize, and offer some sort of compensation for the ruined wardrobe. That, however, sounds like an awful lot of work compared to the alternative- laughing it off and reusing the old cliche, “Oh, haha- you know, boys will be boys!”
This, effectively, protects me from any and all responsibility concerning my child’s misdemeanor, allowing me to claim his misbehavior was purely biological, and in no way based on what a crap job I am doing as a parent. Score!
I mean, it’s the perfect out, right? As long as we just generalize the entire male population as inherently aggressive, rude, rebellious, dirty mongrels, no one has to take responsibility for anything!
Except, of course, girls. In India rape in particular is extremely prevalent and violent, presently. Back in May, two girls went out to a field together, only to be raped, murdered, and hung from a tree. Disturbed, people protested, and a bill was proposed for stricter punishments for rapists. However, this was protested by Mulayam Yadav, head of the Samajwadi political Party, who said on the matter,
“Boys will be boys. They make mistakes.”
Because someone has to take the blame, right? If a boy rapes someone, you know it’s not really his fault. He’s a guy, it’s biological, it’s instinct. But, there’s a flaw in the phrase. Guys, in our society, do not always rape girls. Since it doesn’t always happen, it can’t be just because they’re boys- there has to be another reason. But we don’t want to admit that there just isn’t an excuse for the behavior of men. So it was the girl. If a boy rapes a girl, it is because she provoked him. She lead him on. She didn’t check her drink. She was wasn’t in a group. She was drunk. Boys will be boys, but at what expense to girls?
Not only does it hurt girls through victim blaming, but even when public opinion remains neutral toward them, telling them “boys will be boys” essentially strips their right to be angry when wronged. Even when a girl is justifiably upset at something a boy did to her, repeating this phrase disempowers her. It tells her this is just the way it is. It isn’t his fault, he was born like that. That’s life. Half the population is simply inherently aggressive, predatory, and incapable of transformation.
So essentially, we are saying, “you don’t have a right to be upset at anyone, because it’s no ones fault.”
Even though it is.
But since we socialize girls from young ages to either not recognize or just to excuse the harmful actions of boys, we teach them to be docile, and not to get mad when their treated badly by men, because that’s the way it is. Boy’s will be boys. We are taking away women’s voices, their basic right to justice. This is a form of dehumanization, to both boys and girls, and this attitude in our society is theorized to be a major contributor to the amount of abusive relationships that women find themselves in later on in life.
We tell ourselves that this cannot be the reason, though. We trick ourselves into, once again, blaming biology instead of society. We say, girls just mature faster than boys. But I don’t think this is true- not to the extent that we try to justify it. We allow boys to continue childish, selfish behavior, which continues to grow and manifest itself into harmful, abusive qualities, because we never stopped excusing their actions- because we never gave them consequences. And part of reason we think girls just mature earlier is because we continue to hold them accountable, bombard them with rules and regulations so that they know how to be, “A proper young lady”, and then allow men to sexualize them at increasingly younger ages. We force our girls to grow up- we thrust them into their “place” before they can even become away that other places exist. But our boys? We excuse their destructive behavior until the last breath. Not their last breath though. The last breath of the girls they silenced with their manhood. Because to be a boy, is to be in control. To be a boy is not to know consequence. To be a boy is to have the world bending backwards to make sure you never have to take responsibility.
The phrase “Boys will be boys” represents a harmful ideal in our society, and when used to excuse negative actions, not only enables future discrepancies, but also implies these actions are inherent of the male gender. Thus, this phrase itself equates all boys to bullies, harassers, abusers, rapists, and every other terrible thing that our society attempts to cushion with this cliche. It sets up a future generation of chaotic men and silenced women. It sets our society up for failure. Please join me in the destruction of this phrase. Together, we can eliminate the idea that “boys will be boys”, and start implementing the idea that people will be held accountable for their actions regardless of gender.

Wow, that's a very powerful piece. And very well written. I can tell that you're passionate, and made a good persuasive argument. I especially liked the way you connected with the audience in the first paragraph with a more casual tone. Can I make two suggestions?

Firstly this: "I will be forever alone. Err, strike that last one." While it's a cute little quip it's sort of out of tone with the narrative around it. It's a little dark humor that doesn't seem to fit in with the seriousness of the rest of the piece.

And secondly, I think your conclusion should tie in with your starting argument/phrase “Boys will be trash.” Just to tie it all together. ^^ It'll bring it back around, which is always good when writing things like this.

Okay, last suggestion - I guess it was three, not two XP - but in my personal opinion I feel you should bring up more of the man's side of subject. How the phrase is damaging to not just women, but men as well. You touch on this, but I feel it should have a full paragraph devoted to it. This is my personal opinion however. It depends on how you want the piece to come across.

[kawaii★]

clickie just wrote this. i've never done poetry before... but i felt the need to right how i was feeling for some reason. i'm not sure if you can even consider this poetry. i wrote it because this was a real life experience with me that happened recently. soo..yeah haha.
edit;; feel free to comment it on it, ask questions...and critique? p.s happy halloween!

[ʞ ɔ ǝ ɹ ʍ d ı ʞ s]

Ugh guys I'm so frustrated
When I first started roleplaying ~5 years ago it was on websites where each site was equivalent to one thread here, with one world and everything and people would make multiple threads on different pages...
The site and characters went for YEARS I mean we got like generations away from the characters we started with.
We got so attached to them it was like a continuing story ya know
Here its hard to find a roleplay that lasts more than a few days and you have to stick to one thread and it drives me NUTS
Absolutely bonkers
Like I've tried to restart one of my rp sites up again but no one ever stays.
I'm not trying to start it up again since it was Warriors and theres a TON of characters I would have to delete in order to de-clutter and start again
But it makes me sad thinking about it
I'm sorry this is just a pathetic feels rant about missing my old roleplaying ways lol
I miss writing with other peoples ideas and actually creating something I wont forget about in a week
siiiigh

[iWonder]

I know the feeling.

One roleplay I was in last spring continued until it ended in February. BUT I started an 1x1 with an open plot and suddenly, we created a complex world and brilliant characters, then we made it a 3x3 so our friend could join in and now it is even better now that we mixed different things together.

I hope you find a good one. A nice one is Threat of Shadows. Look it up!

[LYKOICXDED]

I have a roleplay (only Ninjago RP to hit v.2) and when we first started, it was just getting to know the characters. Now, in v.2, the characters have children and whatnot.