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Re: { INKLINGS } A Thread For Writers

Postby Rolly-chan » Thu Jun 20, 2013 7:54 am

яσттωєιlєя wrote:
    Ahh, I really need some help... I can't figure out how to start this story I've been wanting to write.

    The problem is, I'm normally straight into the action when I start a story, whereas in this one I'm trying to make it sound as average as possible. But I can't think of how to start it, or how to write it so that it doesn't seem either really, really perfect and happy or really miserable and moany.

    I'm also writing it in first person, which probably isn't helping at all. I can't do first person.

    If anyone has any examples I could look at for inspiration or some tips, I would really appreciate it. c:

I take it that you already know what you want to write about but not exactly how, right? (I hope I understood you right xD).

Basically, for every scene you write, you need a thing to be changed and change. Holly Lisle made a really great free workshop on her site:
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You also always need conflict, no matter how average the story. Just pick some small-scale ones. Internal, interpersonal, external conflicts, the whole palette.
Another nice workshop, this time for conflicts: clicky again

It's always good to ask yourself what you want to express with the scene before you write it. What's its purpose? What do you want to show? Why does it matter? When you're writing, you're telling a story that in some way should be worth telling. It should matter. If it didn't matter, why write it? Whimsy is not your friend in writing.

Maybe looking at this neat pacing workshop can help, too.

I'd give you an example, but I simply don't have the time right now *sigh*
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Re: { INKLINGS } A Thread For Writers

Postby Charias » Thu Jun 20, 2013 8:20 am

    Well, I know what I want to write about and I also know about the conflict... it's just the first few paragraphs I'm struggling with. I'm writing it in diary format - it's kind of one girl's experience of the end of the world. But because I'm writing it like a diary, she doesn't actually know what will happen the next day, etc. So it's hard to make it interesting enough for the reader to want to keep reading, when it starts with just a normal day.

    I want to make a point of the fact that it was just a normal day, like any other. But I can't think of how to actually start it. Darn, I can't do the first sentence of stories. Too hard.

    Wow, I make that sound really confusing. Sorry. D:

    And thanks for the advice. c:
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Re: { INKLINGS } A Thread For Writers

Postby leblanc » Thu Jun 20, 2013 10:20 am

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    Previous Username: Tigerpelt
    New Username: britain .
    What you'd like to be called now: Britain, Brit, Willow

    hey!! haven't posted for a bit >_< i wrote a new story!
    i am not sure though, if i should post the link.
    it's based off of a horror RPGMaker game called HetaOni and its fairly violent...


It's a writing thread, if you warn of the violence above the link, you should be fine. I don't believe that there're any rules about it!


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Re: { INKLINGS } A Thread For Writers

Postby Rolly-chan » Thu Jun 20, 2013 10:29 am

ʀᴏsᴇ ; wrote:
яσттωєιlєя wrote:
    Well, I know what I want to write about and I also know about the conflict... it's just the first few paragraphs I'm struggling with. I'm writing it in diary format - it's kind of one girl's experience of the end of the world. But because I'm writing it like a diary, she doesn't actually know what will happen the next day, etc. So it's hard to make it interesting enough for the reader to want to keep reading, when it starts with just a normal day.

    I want to make a point of the fact that it was just a normal day, like any other. But I can't think of how to actually start it. Darn, I can't do the first sentence of stories. Too hard.

    Wow, I make that sound really confusing. Sorry. D:

    And thanks for the advice. c:


      Well, think about what you do when you first wake up. I usually groan and roll back over - burying my face into the pillows to keep the sun out of my eyes. Have her family member wake her from a dream. Spill some orange juice all over her favorite shirt. Whatever is normal for your character can be brought out in several ways - readers know that the action won't just explode all over the place right off the bat. However, that first sentence needs to be original - and not hold a cliche, to catch the reader's eye. If you'd like to do some research look at the first sentences of books around you. My most recent novel, is as follows:
      "She looked like a wild animal."


      That's not too overbearing - but it makes the reader want to dive in and find out why she looked like an animal. Maybe pose some kind of question at the beginning. Like... "All the clocks were off by five minutes, I wondered why." Something that hints - but not too much - that the normal world your character lives in is about to go down the drain

      You have to be sure to introduce the reader to a normal situation for your character, before you throw them into the problem or conflict. If you jump into the conflict too soon, your reader won't be able to understand why it's a terrible thing for your character. Every point you're going to turn upside down for your character during the conflict, must have a normal starting point.

      I am so sorry for rambling o3o. I hope that helped you a little.

I think this won't only help Rottweiler but others too :3

Though I disagree about the "you have to introduce the reader to a normal situation for your character before you throw them into the problem" part. I've read a few novels that started immediately with a big conflict. To name one, the character was tied up to a corpse and locked away, losing and regaining consciousness, but the introduction worked perfectly because everything was made clear - the stakes and the character's situation, although the description pretty much focussed on the character's thoughts (because she's obviously not well and, well, because she's tied to a friggin corpse) and on the corpse. It's a dead body, and she's tied to it. Which can only mean that she'll probably suffer the same fate if she doesn't find a way out of this mess.

But, please don't describe how the character isn't waking up, then goes brushing his/her teeth, then goes eating breakfast and all other insignificant stuff that doesn't matter at all. Even if you want to show that it's a normal day for her, the situation isn't quite normal, and you have to work it in subtly, or the story won't matter. Like Rose said - describe the small oddities that others maybe wouldn't notice. Foreshadow the end of the world.

And then, are you keeping a diary? Are you regularly writing one? I have one which I don't use too frequently (*cough*), but I know that I don't describe my usual day in the diary. In my understanding, that would be a waste of paper and ink, since that's what happens almost every day anyway. I only write down what is unusual, what is exciting, when I had an especially bad day, when my day was exceptionally good, why it was bad or good, my inner thoughts I share with no one. Stuff like that.
And for a diary story, stuff like that provides the ground for a better story than diaries that really only depict the routines of the day.
A diary story is still a story, so you should still only write the things that matter. If you know what happens later, you can hide hints at later events in the first entry - other characters that play a major role, places that are important, future events that may be important but will be influenced by the end of the world. If you're going to include how her relationships will change because of what will happen later, you can depict those relationships. Change is important.

For example, she could have a fight with her best friend, and her best friend later dies without her having resolved that conflict. Would be kinda tragic, but then again, end-of-the-world stories don't tend to be happy.
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Re: { INKLINGS } A Thread For Writers

Postby amber. » Thu Jun 20, 2013 11:32 am

Hi Guys!

I was wondering if anyone would be able to review/critique a small excerpt I've posted of a story that I'd hopefully like to turn into a novel.

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Basic Plot;
Two teenagers live in the small town of Charleston. (Yes, I do know Charleston is actually a real place and I haven't decided yet whether I'd like to do research on it or continue with it being simply a made up town.) On their eighteenth birthday they receive a letter inside of a red envelope. This letter contains two words, or rather a first and last name. This person is their said soul mate. There is a council, which I am still developing in my head, that interprets the stars to find these soul mates. They are in charge of the town's laws, the safety of their teenagers, and dealing with the stars. They encourage all teenagers to end with their soul mate but they is a small history of people marrying and starting a life with someone either a.) outside the town or b.) with someone else currently living in the town.
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Re: { INKLINGS } A Thread For Writers

Postby Charias » Fri Jun 21, 2013 6:07 am

Rolly-chan wrote:
ʀᴏsᴇ ; wrote:
      Well, think about what you do when you first wake up. I usually groan and roll back over - burying my face into the pillows to keep the sun out of my eyes. Have her family member wake her from a dream. Spill some orange juice all over her favorite shirt. Whatever is normal for your character can be brought out in several ways - readers know that the action won't just explode all over the place right off the bat. However, that first sentence needs to be original - and not hold a cliche, to catch the reader's eye. If you'd like to do some research look at the first sentences of books around you. My most recent novel, is as follows:
      "She looked like a wild animal."


      That's not too overbearing - but it makes the reader want to dive in and find out why she looked like an animal. Maybe pose some kind of question at the beginning. Like... "All the clocks were off by five minutes, I wondered why." Something that hints - but not too much - that the normal world your character lives in is about to go down the drain

      You have to be sure to introduce the reader to a normal situation for your character, before you throw them into the problem or conflict. If you jump into the conflict too soon, your reader won't be able to understand why it's a terrible thing for your character. Every point you're going to turn upside down for your character during the conflict, must have a normal starting point.

      I am so sorry for rambling o3o. I hope that helped you a little.

I think this won't only help Rottweiler but others too :3

Though I disagree about the "you have to introduce the reader to a normal situation for your character before you throw them into the problem" part. I've read a few novels that started immediately with a big conflict. To name one, the character was tied up to a corpse and locked away, losing and regaining consciousness, but the introduction worked perfectly because everything was made clear - the stakes and the character's situation, although the description pretty much focussed on the character's thoughts (because she's obviously not well and, well, because she's tied to a friggin corpse) and on the corpse. It's a dead body, and she's tied to it. Which can only mean that she'll probably suffer the same fate if she doesn't find a way out of this mess.

But, please don't describe how the character isn't waking up, then goes brushing his/her teeth, then goes eating breakfast and all other insignificant stuff that doesn't matter at all. Even if you want to show that it's a normal day for her, the situation isn't quite normal, and you have to work it in subtly, or the story won't matter. Like Rose said - describe the small oddities that others maybe wouldn't notice. Foreshadow the end of the world.

And then, are you keeping a diary? Are you regularly writing one? I have one which I don't use too frequently (*cough*), but I know that I don't describe my usual day in the diary. In my understanding, that would be a waste of paper and ink, since that's what happens almost every day anyway. I only write down what is unusual, what is exciting, when I had an especially bad day, when my day was exceptionally good, why it was bad or good, my inner thoughts I share with no one. Stuff like that.
And for a diary story, stuff like that provides the ground for a better story than diaries that really only depict the routines of the day.
A diary story is still a story, so you should still only write the things that matter. If you know what happens later, you can hide hints at later events in the first entry - other characters that play a major role, places that are important, future events that may be important but will be influenced by the end of the world. If you're going to include how her relationships will change because of what will happen later, you can depict those relationships. Change is important.

For example, she could have a fight with her best friend, and her best friend later dies without her having resolved that conflict. Would be kinda tragic, but then again, end-of-the-world stories don't tend to be happy.

Thank you so much. This advice is really, really helpful! I think I might be able to do it now. I really appreciate it! :D
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Re: { INKLINGS } A Thread For Writers

Postby Placebo Effect » Fri Jun 21, 2013 8:07 am

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Re: { INKLINGS } A Thread For Writers

Postby Charias » Fri Jun 21, 2013 8:50 am

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    what you'd like to be called now: rottweiler, rottie, weily... yep, whatever.
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Re: { INKLINGS } A Thread For Writers

Postby ~Demonic Moon Curse~ » Fri Jun 21, 2013 5:22 pm

I want to make an art contest, where people can post videos, writing, pictures they drew, and arts and crafts (of course all they made themselves) that go along with, of course, child-friendly topics per week. Good idea or bad idea?
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Oh me! Oh life! of the questions of these recurring,
Of the endless trains of the faithless, of cities fill’d with the foolish,
Of myself forever reproaching myself, (for who more foolish than I, and who more faithless?)
Of eyes that vainly crave the light, of the objects mean, of the struggle ever renew’d,
Of the poor results of all, of the plodding and sordid crowds I see around me,
Of the empty and useless years of the rest, with the rest me intertwined,
The question, O me! so sad, recurring—What good amid these, O me, O life?
Answer.
That you are here—that life exists and identity,



That the powerful play goes on, and you may contribute a verse.
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Re: { INKLINGS } A Thread For Writers

Postby wolves+horses » Sat Jun 22, 2013 1:22 am

~Fang~ wrote:I want to make an art contest, where people can post videos, writing, pictures they drew, and arts and crafts (of course all they made themselves) that go along with, of course, child-friendly topics per week. Good idea or bad idea?

I think that sounds like a good idea. :)
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