CS Debate Thread

[glassea]

I have to agree with hunter on both counts. I mean, if you want to have an abortion it's your choice. They're actually pending a case in Britain, I believe, where a woman was killed because she was not allowed to have abortion. The child was already dead and she wanted to go through abortion, but she wasn't allowed to and died giving birth to a stillborn child.

And any group that kicks people out due to their personal beliefs, if that club didn't specify what their beliefs should be in the first place, is just messed up. I really think this is wrong; I mean, it's 'Don't ask don't tell' all over again.

[The Lion Queen]

The entire thing about Lion cheating makes me laugh. I got a lion on my first try on this game and I had no idea what a lion WAS.

It just seems stupid that ppl would try to cheat for a Lion. Its super obvious

[meowool]

I have to agree with hunter on both counts. I mean, if you want to have an abortion it's your choice. They're actually pending a case in Britain, I believe, where a woman was killed because she was not allowed to have abortion. The child was already dead and she wanted to go through abortion, but she wasn't allowed to and died giving birth to a stillborn child.

I the case wasn't UK...yup it was Irish. And was through blood poisioning complications and because in Ireland you can't get abortions unless the baby is dead. (Catholic country) There was still a foetal heartbeat so they didn't give her an abortion. (If their abortion is planned most women go over the border to NI, where abortions are legal, so they can have a safe abortion there.

If a club is gong to ick you out for something like that, it's not a club worth joining, in my opinion. I'll assume the girl scouts are the same, and say that I'm glad I quit, as being thrown out for being a gay atheist would have been both humiliating and incredibly hurtful. We don't choose to be gay any more than they choose to be straight. And, frankly, someone else's sexuality/religion isn't any of your business, nor a concern. No matter whether it's a private organization or noth, I still think it's incredibly wrong and shouldn't be tolerated.

The Girls guides in the UK I think are dropping the service to God part. I know the Australians have dropped loyalty to the Queen in their vows/promises. (Dunno what they are called as I never did it, I danced instead.)

[Cyrinus]

I have to agree with hunter on both counts. I mean, if you want to have an abortion it's your choice. They're actually pending a case in Britain, I believe, where a woman was killed because she was not allowed to have abortion. The child was already dead and she wanted to go through abortion, but she wasn't allowed to and died giving birth to a stillborn child.

And any group that kicks people out due to their personal beliefs, if that club didn't specify what their beliefs should be in the first place, is just messed up. I really think this is wrong; I mean, it's 'Don't ask don't tell' all over again.

I agree with this. It's the woman's choice not your. Put yourself in that woman's situation... Then how would you feel?

[strawbewwy.]

I have to agree with hunter on both counts. I mean, if you want to have an abortion it's your choice. They're actually pending a case in Britain, I believe, where a woman was killed because she was not allowed to have abortion. The child was already dead and she wanted to go through abortion, but she wasn't allowed to and died giving birth to a stillborn child.

And any group that kicks people out due to their personal beliefs, if that club didn't specify what their beliefs should be in the first place, is just messed up. I really think this is wrong; I mean, it's 'Don't ask don't tell' all over again.

Whoa what a sec, I hate to butt in here but....if the fetus died in the mothers womb, how would it be an abortion? Correct me if I'm wrong, but an abortion is when the child is alive and they take the baby out of the womb, wouldn't that be a miscarriage?

[Lonin]

Whoa what a sec, I hate to butt in here but....if the fetus died in the mothers womb, how would it be an abortion? Correct me if I'm wrong, but an abortion is when the child is alive and they take the baby out of the womb, wouldn't that be a miscarriage?

An abortion has various definitions including terminating a pregnancy/by removal of the fetus from the uterus.

Lonin's cool with abortions. Lonin is never going to be pregnant longer than it takes to book an abortion. Preferably never, but even multiple forms of contraception can fail. :c For Lonin to pass on her genetic bits would be irresponsible and cruel since she has all sorts of nasty hereditary problems. And also pregnancy and childbirth sucks, we're never doing that.
Other women can do whatever they like with their uterus/reproductive system/whole body and its contents. c:
Nothing gets to live within Lonin without her permission and a fetus will never have permission.

[Astaroth]

I have to agree with hunter on both counts. I mean, if you want to have an abortion it's your choice. They're actually pending a case in Britain, I believe, where a woman was killed because she was not allowed to have abortion. The child was already dead and she wanted to go through abortion, but she wasn't allowed to and died giving birth to a stillborn child.

And any group that kicks people out due to their personal beliefs, if that club didn't specify what their beliefs should be in the first place, is just messed up. I really think this is wrong; I mean, it's 'Don't ask don't tell' all over again.

Whoa what a sec, I hate to butt in here but....if the fetus died in the mothers womb, how would it be an abortion? Correct me if I'm wrong, but an abortion is when the child is alive and they take the baby out of the womb, wouldn't that be a miscarriage?

A deceased fetus is labeled stillborn if it is within 350 grams or 500 grams in weight, past 20 weeks of conception, died during a full-term pregnancy, and/or dies during the final term of pregnancy. Miscarriages are common because they happen well before the 20 weeks of conception.

Those things are caused beyond our control, they happen internally or by cause of drugs ands things of that sort. Abortions are where the mother has the fetus, alive or dead, extracted from the womb at any term. It's a physical act done at certain clinics to expel a fetus from a womb. It's also a thing of does the fetus, live or dead, need to be removed. Yes in a sense itd be abortion if you were to remove a stillborn from the womb but the fetus is already dead and there is nothing we can really do to revive it, but in a way, an abortion of the dead fetus should have been performed if it meant saving one life of the two, rather than letting them both die when one was already deceased.

[Daleks&Dragonlords]

Many people don't know that a 28-day baby is not just ' some tissue'. It's bad for them to get abortions. I don't know hwy the doctors lie about that. It's more than just some tissue. It's a full out baby!

[Lonin]

Many people don't know that a 28-day baby is not just ' some tissue'. It's bad for them to get abortions. I don't know hwy the doctors lie about that. It's more than just some tissue. It's a full out baby!

Yup yup. Totally full out baby. (Though that's technically more than 28 days)
Unless you meant 28 weeks, in which case in most countries (where abortion is legal) it is illegal to abort at that point outside of medical necessity.

[Daleks&Dragonlords]

Ya didn't have to get sarcastic about it. What did I ever do to you? I made a mistake, deal with it. ^^