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[kimmy1479]

I'll be keeping everyone in prayers. <3

Okay so I have what I think could be an interesting discussion topic:

Today my Youth Pastor posed the question to us, "Is it possible for us to not grumble or complain, or to be forever content?"

To flesh this out, we're saying that because God considered discontentment/complaining to be a sin, can you, theoretically, just never do it?

During Youth Group my sister instantly said, no, it isn't possible. Because of humans' sinful nature, and the fact that the Bible says no one can reach perfection except for Jesus.

I disagreed, and voiced my own opinion, that yes (theoretically) it is possible for someone to not commit the sin of discontentment/complaint, if highly improbably.
Because the Bible says that God will never put us through any temptation of sin that we can not overcome.

I agreed that there is probably no one that will ever be guilt free of this sin, but that using that logic (that we can overcome any temptation to sin) that it is technically possible.

My sister continued arguing that the Bible says no one can be perfect, so even if we can overcome anything, it isn't possible because we won't.

I still say that it is the different between can't and won't.
We can choose not to sin.
However we won't always choose that.

Therefore it is possible- even though it will almost certainly not happen.

But I'd like to hear if anyone else has any input, be it for or against the possibility of living without discontent/complaint.

[Strawberry.Wyne]

I think that no, it isn't possible... Because like your sister had said no one except for Jesus is perfect..

On another note; I had been asking myself why god had taken my grandpa out of the world so young, and went a year without an answer.... But this weekend He has blessed my family with a beautiful and perfectly healthy baby boy!

[Cardinal]

I'll be keeping everyone in prayers. <3

Okay so I have what I think could be an interesting discussion topic:

Today my Youth Pastor posed the question to us, "Is it possible for us to not grumble or complain, or to be forever content?"

To flesh this out, we're saying that because God considered discontentment/complaining to be a sin, can you, theoretically, just never do it?

During Youth Group my sister instantly said, no, it isn't possible. Because of humans' sinful nature, and the fact that the Bible says no one can reach perfection except for Jesus.

I disagreed, and voiced my own opinion, that yes (theoretically) it is possible for someone to not commit the sin of discontentment/complaint, if highly improbably.
Because the Bible says that God will never put us through any temptation of sin that we can not overcome.

I agreed that there is probably no one that will ever be guilt free of this sin, but that using that logic (that we can overcome any temptation to sin) that it is technically possible.

My sister continued arguing that the Bible says no one can be perfect, so even if we can overcome anything, it isn't possible because we won't.

I still say that it is the different between can't and won't.
We can choose not to sin.
However we won't always choose that.

Therefore it is possible- even though it will almost certainly not happen.

But I'd like to hear if anyone else has any input, be it for or against the possibility of living without discontent/complaint.

Replace the act of complaining with the word 'murder' and I'm sure you have your answer. Or theft. Or adultery... etc. Since, theoretically no sin is greater than any other, no?

Are we perfect because we don't murder? Are we perfect because we choose not to steal? Then how in the world is the conclusion met that if you do not complain you are free from everything else? If complaining were the only sin ever, exclusively, then yes it WOULD be impossible, however there are loads of other sins out and about, not just complaining.

Interesting discussion, though.

[Edwawd]

Hello~ I'm not a Christian, but I have a few questions.
Sorry if they sound slightly rude, I don't mean for them to be I'm just bad at wording sometimes.
Anyways, questions are:

With the whole Adam and Eve thing, wouldn't we all be heavily inbred? v.v
If god is so loving, why would he let people suffer forever in hell? That doesn't sound too loving.
If God is the Creator of all things, did God create sin and evil?
What is the Christian view of psychics?
Do pets go to heaven when they die? I wouldn't think so, but I always wished they would as a child.

Anyways, hopefully this questions can be answered. Thank you for your time~

[Steffi.]

Hello~ I'm not a Christian, but I have a few questions.
Sorry if they sound slightly rude, I don't mean for them to be I'm just bad at wording sometimes.
Anyways, questions are:

With the whole Adam and Eve thing, wouldn't we all be heavily inbred? v.v
If god is so loving, why would he let people suffer forever in hell? That doesn't sound too loving.
If God is the Creator of all things, did God create sin and evil?
What is the Christian view of psychics?
Do pets go to heaven when they die? I wouldn't think so, but I always wished they would as a child.

Anyways, hopefully this questions can be answered. Thank you for your time~

1. Technically yes, it would mean we are all inbred, but the genetic lines are so far stretched out that it's not really considered being inbred anymore.
2. Because heaven is meant for purity and people who lived their lives for God. If somebody lived their life for hate and without loving our Father, why would he reward them with heaven? God gave us free choice, and the people who go to hell are there because they chose to go there, not because God doesn't love them.
3. I don't know the answer to this one. I'm sure someone here has an answer.
4. Same with this one, I don't know much about psychics. I personally think that psychics are bad and have something evil about them (not as people, just as a profession), but I'm not sure, maybe that's just me.
5. I also like to think they do. I mean, I'm pretty sure there is a verse that says all animals know God, and why would God not allow one of the things he created that loved him back into heaven?

[Cardinal]

Hello~ I'm not a Christian, but I have a few questions.
Sorry if they sound slightly rude, I don't mean for them to be I'm just bad at wording sometimes.
Anyways, questions are:

With the whole Adam and Eve thing, wouldn't we all be heavily inbred? v.v
If god is so loving, why would he let people suffer forever in hell? That doesn't sound too loving.
If God is the Creator of all things, did God create sin and evil?
What is the Christian view of psychics?
Do pets go to heaven when they die? I wouldn't think so, but I always wished they would as a child.

Anyways, hopefully this questions can be answered. Thank you for your time~

Humans are horribly overbred. Lets say for a second that the whole adam and eve is a crock of bull, even then humans can not be more that 64th cousins at any given time. If you watch youtube, VSauce actually did a really cool segment on it tilted "We're all Related". Otherwise, there is a Scientific Adam, traceable through the Y-Chromosome. http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news ... wells.html Good stuff.

He's God, he can do as he pleases. While God does love his creation, this is the same God that leveled entire NATIONS. He is a God of love, anger, mercy, forgiveness, wrath, joy, and even hate. He's not a one-sided god. I think Romans chapter 9 sums it up pretty nicely

13 Just as it is written: “Jacob I loved, but Esau I hated.”[e]

14 What then shall we say? Is God unjust? Not at all! 15 For he says to Moses,

“I will have mercy on whom I have mercy,
and I will have compassion on whom I have compassion.”[f]

16 It does not, therefore, depend on human desire or effort, but on God’s mercy. 17 For Scripture says to Pharaoh: “I raised you up for this very purpose, that I might display my power in you and that my name might be proclaimed in all the earth.”[g] 18 Therefore God has mercy on whom he wants to have mercy, and he hardens whom he wants to harden.

19 One of you will say to me: “Then why does God still blame us? For who is able to resist his will?” 20 But who are you, a human being, to talk back to God? “Shall what is formed say to the one who formed it, ‘Why did you make me like this?’”[h] 21 Does not the potter have the right to make out of the same lump of clay some pottery for special purposes and some for common use?

22 What if God, although choosing to show his wrath and make his power known, bore with great patience the objects of his wrath—prepared for destruction? 23 What if he did this to make the riches of his glory known to the objects of his mercy, whom he prepared in advance for glory

God is the creator of all things, so I suppose he did.

I don't have much of an opinion of them other than they personally give me the creeps.

I sure hope so, it'd be neato.

[Lucifer]

I am a Christian, but a really different kind of my own. I believe in the Bible but I also follow the trilogy Conversations With God. So I'm kind of a mixture

[Supernuk]

Hello~ I'm not a Christian, but I have a few questions.
Sorry if they sound slightly rude, I don't mean for them to be I'm just bad at wording sometimes.
Anyways, questions are:

With the whole Adam and Eve thing, wouldn't we all be heavily inbred? v.v
If god is so loving, why would he let people suffer forever in hell? That doesn't sound too loving.
If God is the Creator of all things, did God create sin and evil?
What is the Christian view of psychics?
Do pets go to heaven when they die? I wouldn't think so, but I always wished they would as a child.

Anyways, hopefully this questions can be answered. Thank you for your time~

(Gonna touch on 2 and discuss 3 +4 because Roma and Cardinal explained the rest very nicely ^^)

2. I will admit, it's a strange thought: why would a loving Father let His children suffer? I believe because of our free will, He simply wants us to choose Him or choose another path. Whether that other path by terrible or just ok, it's without Christ and apart from God's plan that He's had from the beginning of time. That plan is for His children (every human ever) to be with Him in heaven or eternal rest. If a child does not have Christ, God states that light cannot be with darkness. Apart from accepting Christ, we appear dark to God, forcing ourselves out of heaven.

3. Good question! He actually created Lucifer, the ultimately fallen angel that choose his own path apart from God's plan. He was the one that tempted the first of mankind (Eve then Adam) into going against God. Now, God also gave all his creations, especially humans, free will. Adam and Eve were free to choose their own path. In a sense, they, along with Satan (Lucifer), paved the path away from God that the rest of mankind has followed for the rest of time. The only way to get off that path is to accept that fact that you are on the wrong path and to allow Christ to enter your life as your Savior who will guide you on the Lord's path to heaven.

4. I had to research this a little, not going to lie XD Most people don't like going back to the Old Testament but I will bring up King Saul, the first king of Israel, and his meeting with a medium. He tried to contact a dead prophet from the grave instead of praying to God for answers. Not only did he believe a demon to be God's prophet but he also thought the prophet was telling him stuff when God personally let Saul know that He was done talking to Him because Saul knew that summoning the dead was a big no-no. Now, some may say, hey, it's the Old Testament! Should we then not wear certain clothing, not eat unclean things and stone people? Well, that no-no on psychics follows over into the New Testament when John writes in Revelation that people that practice such things will be cast into the lake of fire, which is called the second death and equivalent to eternal suffering. Not that nice of an ending to those guys who are also called false prophets. From what I've read in the Bible, God does not like people who give off false info to His children. To top it all off, Jesus tells us that if we ever need more than earthly communication, we should talk to the Holy Spirit which is actually a form of God Himself that lives within each believer. That's it. No summoning this, no calling on that. And the people that do all those card readings for the future and stuff, Jesus says to not worry for tomorrow and trust Him fully. Not gonna lie but I don't find the places of such readings inviting when they look all dark and you can't see inside.

If you need any clarification on anything, feel free to PM me. Inbox is always open ^^ And thanks for the questions!

[Edwawd]

Thank you for the answers! ^^ That has cleared up a lot of confusion I was having!

[~Melly~]

Hello guys c: it's been while since I've posted. I have a question and I don't know if it is different for each sect, but do you need to be baptized to go to heaven?
In my friends baptist church, they passed around juice (instead of wine) and crackers. I couldn't have any because they said you neesed to be baptized, and I am not....can you tell me why this is?
I wouldn't think you'd need to be baptized to go to heaven, but I heard this somewhere. Can you guys help explain? Thanks