Dog Owner Chat v4

[Boomer]

I just heard about my neighbor's neighbor (it goes my house, good neighbor's house, then the bad neighbor's house) is wanting to breed her Chihuahua with another Chihuahua. They're not great owners at all and I've seen the Chihuahua and a Shih Tzu outside late at night. I think they're kept outside most, if not, all the time.

They asked the good neighbors if they could breed their female with good neighbor's Chihuahua (who is thankfully fixed) a while ago, and now they have a random male Chihuahua there. As someone who is going into the veterinary field and someone that volunteers at an animal shelter (albeit a no-kill, but I've seen lots of abused dogs and puppy mill cases), it enrages me that someone can be so ignorant to throw two random dogs together and hope that they make puppies. I'd like to point out that said bad neighbors have a lot of other issues I won't go into detail about and simply "going to their house and telling them that this is a bad idea" is not a smart thing to do. I just hope that somehow the two dogs are infertile and won't have puppies. I won't be shocked if in the next few months our shelter winds up with unwanted Chihuahua puppies.

[Crossflare]

oppie was from a BYB, i don't support byb but i wanted a dog, he was $170. and he's extremely healthy and i am ALWAYS taking him to the vet for him to stay that way.

not EVERY byb puppy has health issues.

Yes but not every breeder who breeds out of their home is a backyard breeder. I used to know a guy who literally bred Labrador retrievers who were fully tested healthwise and had excellent temperaments registered as well not to some phony registry either all of his dogs were AKC registered. He wasn't breeding them as pets. His wife used to show Labradors but somewhere along the lines she retired and they still had good-natured breeding pairs. So they logically decided not to go the selling of puppies route and went to the route of breeding dogs for service/therapy/guide dog work. In a nutshell, all the puppies were considered working dogs. Although some of them did end up as pets that were not common and there was really only one or two people that I knew who owned pet quality dogs from him and that was because they'd been born a number of years ago were both around 5 years and were left over from the time he and his wife were still breeding for show. He actually had proper housing proper setups and here's something interesting he built shed with air conditioning and heated floors just so he could actually turn it into a safe environment for the mom dogs and their puppies. The animals were all health tested genetically tested he actually had a vet come to his house and give the puppies their shots and check-ups. So rather than have to load up a car and stress the mom and puppies out he had his vet do house calls.

I actually did jump to conclusion when my friend said we were going to visit him I thought he was a BYB but it turned out he was not and he was breeding for a well-known service dog organization in the area, which I still can't remember the name of because well I was too busy giving all the dogs attention, this included the momma dog who was nice enough to actually allow me to pet her pups. I got knocked over by puppies that day and the mom became concerned because I was on floor XD so she decided that my face needed to be licked lol.

I try to think the best of people and not assume the worst because of this incident also when I say I got knocked over these puppies weren't even that big and yet somehow the mob decided to figure out how to make me lose balance while sitting on the floor. I still to this think it was hilarious that the mother was concerned about me being on the floor and decided that she'd lick me.

[Imzadi83]

i've had a saint bernard that was from a byb. all our dogs were from bybs. every one lasted long and happy lives. yes, oppie is young. but so we're mybothers when we had them, we know how to keep them healthy, but everyone has different opinions, i'm not saying every single dog from bybs won't have health issues in just saying not all of them do.

oppies breeders have since been caught and they had to spay/neutere all the dogs.
there will be no more future litters from oppies breeder.

I hope there won't be any litters from Oppie either, I remember you saying you were considering breeding him. I'm sure he's a wonderful dog and you may luck out and not have any health problems with him, but you just don't know. You said his breeder was not honest about you about what mix of breeds he came from so you won't even know what to watch out for.

And you can only know about the individual BYB dogs you raised, what about their siblings, parents, etc? Just because you got lucky does not mean that a ton of other dogs have, are, and will suffer from being BYB. Not to mention all the great pet dogs that will die in shelters because people bought a BYB puppy.

No one is saying all BYB dogs have health problems. A lot of them do however. Most of the ones I know do.

[maninkari]

As the owner of a brachycephalic breed I'm not even gonna chime in the convo about them, that's just going to end in bashing. Just saying that in all her 16 years my dog has been a lot healthier than a ton of 'normal nosed' dogs that I've come across.

I'm not trying to drag you into this convo or anything, I just wanted to say that you have a point. Just because a dog isn't brachycephalic doesn't mean they are healthy. The most crippled young dogs I've ever met have all been Golden Retrievers. Hip problems seem to be very prevalent with poorly bred Goldens.

[Marley.&.Me]

i've had a saint bernard that was from a byb. all our dogs were from bybs. every one lasted long and happy lives. yes, oppie is young. but so we're mybothers when we had them, we know how to keep them healthy, but everyone has different opinions, i'm not saying every single dog from bybs won't have health issues in just saying not all of them do.

oppies breeders have since been caught and they had to spay/neutere all the dogs.
there will be no more future litters from oppies breeder.

I hope there won't be any litters from Oppie either, I remember you saying you were considering breeding him. I'm sure he's a wonderful dog and you may luck out and not have any health problems with him, but you just don't know. You said his breeder was not honest about you about what mix of breeds he came from so you won't even know what to watch out for.

And you can only know about the individual BYB dogs you raised, what about their siblings, parents, etc? Just because you got lucky does not mean that a ton of other dogs have, are, and will suffer from being BYB. Not to mention all the great pet dogs that will die in shelters because people bought a BYB puppy.

No one is saying all BYB dogs have health problems. A lot of them do however. Most of the ones I know do.

nope none from him either, already have a appointment to get him neutered this thursday.

[Crossflare]

It's really a matter of how the genetics play out sometimes even with genetic testing you can have a dog that stays healthy it's whole life and suddenly that dog now has an issue. This happened with my neighbor's golden retriever, he was healthy his entire life and suddenly he got a tumor in his brain, they managed to find a specialist in another state and the dog was around for at least two more years and he enjoyed those two years.

[Marley.&.Me]

oppie looks identical to a Jack Russell Terrier..... so i'm thinking he's that and Chihuahua.

[chase.]

nope none from him either, already have a appointment to get him neutered this thursday.

hope it goes well <33

I remember Logan - pain in the backside with the cone cx

His mouth is too long for the cone, and the biggest one they had was way too loose around him so we got him one of those inflatable rings you put around their necks so they can't bend it but he still managed to get around it so I ended up staying up with him all day and night for three days until I decided I couldn't go with one/two hours of sleep.
[i was so paranoid that he'd get it infected or some thing because I was so incredibly over protective of my child back then cx]

[Imzadi83]

It's really a matter of how the genetics play out sometimes even with genetic testing you can have a dog that stays healthy it's whole life and suddenly that dog now has an issue. This happened with my neighbor's golden retriever, he was healthy his entire life and suddenly he got a tumor in his brain, they managed to find a specialist in another state and the dog was around for at least two more years and he enjoyed those two years.

Yes, that's true, but that isn't a valid excuse (which some people do use) of not doing the testing. And it's not just genetic testing of course that has to be done. I met a woman in the vets who's young Golden was showing signs of hip dysplasia. She had done her best to go to a responsible breeder and that breeder had not had any HD in his lines for generations. So yes, random things do pop up of course. But a responsible breeder will be keeping on top of those things so that they aren't breeding them into their lines and will stop breeding a dog(s) when problems crop up.

@Hazza; - I'm glad you've decided not to breed Oppie, I think that's a very wise decision.

[Mikuru Senpai]

Heyoo! I haven't been on this thread for like forever but I came here to ask for some advice.
I'm sorry for coming in so fast and interrupting a converstion ;v;

Okay, so my mum and I moved into the house of her boyfriend together with our dog. I never had a dog from the beginning, I always got some odler dogs, from shelters and stuff or families that didn't wanted their dogs anymore. So I actually never delt with puppies, even though Cindy is already about a year old. So Cindy is the dog of the father of my mums boyfriend, who lives in the apartment below us together with his wife and well Cindy. I can't tell you what breed she is, they told me that her breeder said that she is an Labrador x Border Collie - which she definitely is NOT. I guess she is some mix between a Lab and a hunting dog, maybe a Weimaraner (I have no idea what this dog is called in english I'm so sorry). So anyway, Cindy doesn't listen. At all. She doesn't respond to her name, nor to anything you say to her. She barks without stopping and is aggressive towards every single dog she meets except for mine. She also is aggressive towards other people, not just dogs. So I wanted to ask if you have any tips or advices on a dog like that. I tried getting her attention with treats but she doesn't care. I actually have no idea what to do with this dog to make her behave correctly. They told me to try and train her so she would behave because my dog is so well-behaved. But all dogs, and also my current dog, have a peacefull nature. They had their flaws, like barking, pulling on the leash and stuff but they have never been aggressive or ignorant like her. So I wanted to ask if anyone has any ideas on her? Maybe own experiences with dogs like that? I'm sorry if my english isn't the best !!

Thank you in advance!