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by LunarLotus » Tue Jan 24, 2012 11:01 am
They do have families, but a life for a life seems fair weather it's a wolf or not. I have been looking into and think about the wolves that have just as much family as you do. Put yourself in their paws before you decide to shoot them through the head for their fur and claws. It's killing them off and if you actually looked around in search engines you'd find that you hunters were the people who made a lot of our earth's animals go EXTINCT. If there were a higher species than us would you actually be happy that they were practically murdering your family for your skin so that they could sell it or make clothes out of it? Would you be happy that someone, somewhere, was wearing you around and using you in foods? I didn't think so. This is why we are angry at the hunters because we understand the systems and without wolves, we have more rodents. Rats and mice are rodents and they get into our homes, schools, and workplaces. Those are the 'duiscusting dissease carying creatures'. Think about that before trying to start up something.
Yes, you have families, but SO DO THEY. Now, who do you think is more dangerous, them, or us?
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by van » Tue Jan 24, 2012 11:13 am
wolves over populate=they all kill their prey and then die of starvation [slow, very painful death] because they run out of a food source.
Would you rather a wolf die painlessly with a bullet through the head, or slowly from starvation?
grey wolves as a whole aren't endangered, they're even over populated in areas now, they've been breeding like rabbits.
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by LunarLotus » Tue Jan 24, 2012 11:23 am
(As of 2 or more years ago)
Wolves killed each year: 2,000 to 4,500
Wolves in existance: 10,000 to 15,000 <~does that seem like alot? over population of wolves can be easy to solve with the relocating. Don't forget we kill their prey too.
Tigers killed each year: Over 5,000
Pandas killed each year: 500
Hunter's said they liked to hunt because It's relaxing, they love the outdoors, it's peaceful, it's exiting, it's hard work, for the money, for the fur, to spend time with people, it's unforgetable, patience, practice, meat. Other's say you can't explain it. There are other things you can do besides hunt and kill our world.
By the way, humans are also overpoulating this earth.
people in hati are starving, it's practcally saying that we could shoot them in the head.
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by Ayngel » Tue Jan 24, 2012 11:27 am
They do have families, but a life for a life seems fair weather it's a wolf or not. I have been looking into and think about the wolves that have just as much family as you do. Put yourself in their paws before you decide to shoot them through the head for their fur and claws.
Not all hunters shoot them just for the fur or claws some hunt for the meat. And in some areas which is more important, ending a wolfs life humanly and fast or haveing your pets/farm animals killed?It's killing them off and if you actually looked around in search engines you'd find that you hunters were the people who made a lot of our earth's animals go EXTINCT.
They have certain seasons for hunting so they get a chance at life and to raise an family. Thats so they dont make them go extinct.
And hunters didnt make dinosaurs go extinct and other species just died out. If there were a higher species than us would you actually be happy that they were practically murdering your family for your skin so that they could sell it or make clothes out of it? Would you be happy that someone, somewhere, was wearing you around and using you in foods? I didn't think so.
I doubt the cows are happy when we kill them for food and to wear (leather). So why dont i see any "save the cows" threads? Because they arent as "pretty" or as "sweet" thats why. This is why we are angry at the hunters because we understand the systems and without wolves, we have more rodents. Rats and mice are rodents and they get into our homes, schools, and workplaces. Those are the 'duiscusting dissease carying creatures'. Think about that before trying to start up something.
Yes, you have families, but SO DO THEY. Now, who do you think is more dangerous, them, or us?
Wait you understand the systems? This last part made me laugh so you would rather have a slow painful death from starvation than a quick shot to the head? Rodents are cute anyways and rodents are an evasive species, wolfs can be seen as "disgusting disease carrying creatures" too for some people.
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by van » Tue Jan 24, 2012 11:34 am
MoonshadowXV wrote:(As of 2 or more years ago)
Wolves killed each year: 2,000 to 4,500
Wolves in existance: 10,000 to 15,000 <~does that seem like alot? over population of wolves can be easy to solve with the relocating. Don't forget we kill their prey too.
Tigers killed each year: Over 5,000
Pandas killed each year: 500
Hunter's said they liked to hunt because It's relaxing, they love the outdoors, it's peaceful, it's exiting, it's hard work, for the money, for the fur, to spend time with people, it's unforgetable, patience, practice, meat. Other's say you can't explain it. There are other things you can do besides hunt and kill our world.
By the way, humans are also overpoulating this earth.
people in hati are starving, it's practcally saying that we could shoot them in the head.
Where?
Obviously not in all places that host wolves. Many places are now over populated with them.
Seriously? I hunt because it is fun, relaxing, I like being in nature. I could tell you that your hobbies 'kill the world' and to stop doing them, but I don't.
And can you prove that? Over population is when the carrying capacity of a certain area is reached. [All the food is consumed]
Hasn't happened to us.
And even if we are over populated, so what? Nothing can be done about it.
I agree with every thing that nutmeg has said.
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by xChry. » Tue Jan 24, 2012 11:39 am
Van wrote:MoonshadowXV wrote:(As of 2 or more years ago)
Wolves killed each year: 2,000 to 4,500
Wolves in existance: 10,000 to 15,000 <~does that seem like alot? over population of wolves can be easy to solve with the relocating. Don't forget we kill their prey too.
Tigers killed each year: Over 5,000
Pandas killed each year: 500
Hunter's said they liked to hunt because It's relaxing, they love the outdoors, it's peaceful, it's exiting, it's hard work, for the money, for the fur, to spend time with people, it's unforgetable, patience, practice, meat. Other's say you can't explain it. There are other things you can do besides hunt and kill our world.
By the way, humans are also overpoulating this earth.
people in hati are starving, it's practcally saying that we could shoot them in the head.
Where?
Obviously not in all places that host wolves. Many places are now over populated with them.
Seriously? I hunt because it is fun, relaxing, I like being in nature. I could tell you that your hobbies 'kill the world' and to stop doing them, but I don't.
And can you prove that? Over population is when the carrying capacity of a certain area is reached. [All the food is consumed]
Hasn't happened to us.
And even if we are over populated, so what? Nothing can be done about it.
I agree with every thing that nutmeg has said.
If we ARE populated, what are you gonna do? Go around shooting everyone? I gaurentee you its not gonna make a dent in the population whatsoever.
Look, Everything that can be done is being done my the government right now. End of story.

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by Ourpawprints » Tue Jan 24, 2012 11:54 am
I'm pretty sure Moonshadow isn't talking about shooting people, instead comparing one situation to another.
"You shout it out,
But I can't hear a word you say
I'm talking loud not saying much
I'm criticized but all your bullets ricochet
You shoot me down, but I get up
I'm bulletproof, nothing to lose
Fire away, fire away
Ricochet, you take your aim
Fire away, fire away
You shoot me down but I won't fall
I am titanium"
-David Guetta Titanium
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