Dog Owner Chat V. 5

[Crossflare]

Yes, if the dog has attacked before, call 911. It's an emergency. What if a child were to get injured? Tell them everything you know about the people and their dog, the incidents before, the color, breed, where the people live, how many people live there, their names, cars, etc. The police will also ask you questions, so you don't have to come up with them all by yourself.

Breeds doesn't matter and can be potentially seen as bias everything else is perfect information. However breed can skew the reports and make authorities assume that the reporter is bias so best to describe the dog. Whether it's a border collie or other breed has no importance to the report. However things like long or shorthair and color can help. You can use other breeds to describe the color or body shape but don't say it was such and such breed just that it looked kind of like that.

You can also record and say that you started recording your daily walks because your dog is cute. Besides who doesm't want to video their dog. Like no rule that says strapping a go pro to your puppers is illegal also no rule that recording your pup on a walk is either if it happens to catch an encounter then you can show it to a cop as long as you explain that you wanted to video your pup and were intending to have it for personal viewing later.

Edit: The reason why I say that you shouldn't outright say it was this breed is that plenty of dog breeds look similar and while some look unique not all dogs that look like german shepherds are shepherds. So best to not definitively say thats a shepherd and let the authorities make that determination. It covers yourself legally so that in the event legal recourse happens you aren't seen as bias.

[Catheren]

You sir or madam are sneaky and I like the way you think XD

[Crossflare]

I learned this from watching the r/legaladvice subreddit a person had a similar issue to yours on there and was told exactly what I just told you to do. Same issue dog aggressive dog A few incidents prior and dog was getting hidden away everytime cops showed up. The advice was the same.

Basically report, Report again Video your own dog on walks cause no one party consent. Call the cops if attacked again document everything meticulously if they say they don't own the dog the cops can amd will get warrant as there has been 7 issues prior have you called 911 for all of them if not start doing it for every incident after.

The dog and the neighbors eventially moved away cause of all the reports. in the legal advice sub reddit. So either that will happen in your area or the neighbors will be ordered to put a muzzle on the dog break the conditions of that and get the dog taken away. You'd think they'd have the dog in some kind of training. I don't see the dog as a bad dog just an untrained wholesome good boy who needs a professional trainer.

911 calls get that paper trail started the non energency line can help you follow up.

[lilpupin]

I've been looking around for suggestions on what to do for my stubborn pup, and I might as well ask here in case anyone's got an idea:
My dog's name is Ruby, she's a mutt and I love her like crazy but she's driving me insane! Ruby is the most stubborn dog you will come across and that's begun to be a problem. I've had her for four years now and she's about six or seven, and despises walks. She will not respond to small tugs like another dog might. She would gladly let you drag her down the street than have to take a step that she does not want to take. The problem has been getting worse in the past year and now-a-days she's begun to growl at me when i try to take her out for a walk. When I finally get her out from whatever she's crawled behind to avoid the dreaded walk, the actual carrying out of said activity is usually more painful. The second that she.. does what she needs to do she refuses anything more than a single step away from the house. I've tried to walk towards our home and then continue past it, sorta using her momentum to keep going, but her mind is too set on home to be tricked into anything else. This wouldn't be too big of a problem except that she's starting to gain weight. I can't get her to go on walks to try and fix that and I'm getting concerned. She's a rather long dog so it can't be good on her back. She's not food motivated in the least so that's a dead end if you're thinking of that, I'm afraid. Any suggestions or suggestions of places I could go to ask for help would be great, thank you for any possible help!

[Crossflare]

When you say long dog do you mean like dachshund long or just long like a greyhound.

Have you tried harnesses or is she big or small dog.

Also maybe try treat training for walks using treats to get her to stand up and saying things like lets go enthusiastically gradually weaning her off treats to get her to enjoy the walks. Sounds like she doesn't associate walks as being fun.

[Crossflare]

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I only said breed because the police need to know what the dog looks like. I understand the bias and stereotype behind some breeds, but it's only factual.

Yeah but you gotta cover yourself legally by using words like it kind of looked like instead of it definitely was cause the neighbors could sue and claim bias although they'd have to prove their dog wasn't aggressive in the process. So even if they did it would likely backfire on them. This is more to do with keeping oneself out of legal trouble then stereotypes simple wording can help cover onesself.

Surprisingly people have done lawsuits like that and not won because if dog is aggressive it's harder to prove that it's not aggressive.

[lilpupin]

When you say long dog do you mean like dachshund long or just long like a greyhound.

Have you tried harnesses or is she big or small dog.

Also maybe try treat training for walks using treats to get her to stand up and saying things like lets go enthusiastically gradually weaning her off treats to get her to enjoy the walks. Sounds like she doesn't associate walks as being fun.

More like greyhound long she's mostly a mix between a pekingese and a Shih tzu, so somethin' like that. We do use a harness because she knows how to slip out of a collar. I'd try treats but I honestly can't get her interested in them in the least. I can't even get her to eat her own dinner half the time, even though we put cheese in it to try and get her interested. I don't think that'll work real' well, but thank you for the suggestion!

[Crossflare]

Hmm perhaps try and find something she enjoys other then walks that can get her active. It can be as simple as tossing a ball down a hall way or on the floor in room back forth by getting her to bring it to you.

If she's not food motivated maybe she's toy motivated and even if she dislikes walks there may be other ways to get her to exercise. May also want to manage her food intake a bit as well. If she continues to gain weight you can speak to a vet about a food to maintain weight. You don't have to buy food from the vet but you can obtain a recommended food from websites like Chewy if the option is there and it is cheaper then getting it from a vet or a store.

I know vets aren't nutritionists although my pets vet is pretty knowledgable in animal nutrition oddly enough. The office doesn't just sell one type of food though. They have a few different prescription foods and stock greenies treats and pill pockets as well. Like most vets I have seen in past almost always had shelves full of science diet but not my pets current vet. They only stock the prescription diets in small amounts for when they recommend a pet owner to try it and if it works out tell people it's cheaper on websites like Chewy.com

It's why I like the vet my animals go to, they truly do care about the animals and how much the owners pay that they are willing to recommend better places to get things so that owners don't have to pay prices that are to expensive for food and such.

[Boneabii]

I've been looking around for suggestions on what to do for my stubborn pup, and I might as well ask here in case anyone's got an idea:
My dog's name is Ruby, she's a mutt and I love her like crazy but she's driving me insane! Ruby is the most stubborn dog you will come across and that's begun to be a problem. I've had her for four years now and she's about six or seven, and despises walks. She will not respond to small tugs like another dog might. She would gladly let you drag her down the street than have to take a step that she does not want to take. The problem has been getting worse in the past year and now-a-days she's begun to growl at me when i try to take her out for a walk. When I finally get her out from whatever she's crawled behind to avoid the dreaded walk, the actual carrying out of said activity is usually more painful. The second that she.. does what she needs to do she refuses anything more than a single step away from the house. I've tried to walk towards our home and then continue past it, sorta using her momentum to keep going, but her mind is too set on home to be tricked into anything else. This wouldn't be too big of a problem except that she's starting to gain weight. I can't get her to go on walks to try and fix that and I'm getting concerned. She's a rather long dog so it can't be good on her back. She's not food motivated in the least so that's a dead end if you're thinking of that, I'm afraid. Any suggestions or suggestions of places I could go to ask for help would be great, thank you for any possible help!

my dog isn't food motivated either but I've seen that if you completely stop them from doing what they want, in this case closing off all the ways she can get into the house, and place some of her favorite treats on the sidewalk or something, and wait. by this point she has probably associated you and the outside with walks, so she's not going to budge if you keep pushing. put her treat on the sidewalk or something, and sit down next to the treat and wait. she's most likely going to wait at the house to be let in, but if you show that no matter how much begging she will do you won't let her in, Ruby will realize that it isn't worth it and she might as well eat the food. Do this until she doesn't seem to have any aversion to an implication that she's going on a walk.

[lilpupin]

my dog isn't food motivated either but I've seen that if you completely stop them from doing what they want, in this case closing off all the ways she can get into the house, and place some of her favorite treats on the sidewalk or something, and wait. by this point she has probably associated you and the outside with walks, so she's not going to budge if you keep pushing. put her treat on the sidewalk or something, and sit down next to the treat and wait. she's most likely going to wait at the house to be let in, but if you show that no matter how much begging she will do you won't let her in, Ruby will realize that it isn't worth it and she might as well eat the food. Do this until she doesn't seem to have any aversion to an implication that she's going on a walk.

Hmm, I like that idea. She'll usually come if I kneel down to her level so a bit of food might interest her too, if I give her long enough. Seems I've got a long sit out ahead of me in the near future, thanks for the suggestion!