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[Liru Kaulitz]

I like that banner, too. And Cool Blue, its not that I don't respect you or Wikipedia (XD), it's just that I have always thought differently.

[kishinuma]

Omahgawsh, I love that banner Cool Blue. ^^ Did you draw that yourself? O: It's amazing. :3

Also, if you guys are talking about wolves attacking humans and such, I believe it must have been for a reason right? Maybe it was because the human might have provoked the wolf? o;

i agree,that woman must of entered their territory and maybe when one came she hit it with a stick.just my thought.

[wolves+horses]

I still stand firmly with my belief that there must be some reason. But of course, there are many different opinions.

Fact =/= Opinion

News story about a woman found dead when she had been out jogging. Unprovoked, healthy wolves, and the body was hardly eaten. Hmm.

Though most Native American tribes revered wolves, their oral history confirms they were attacked by wolves on occasion, long before the arrival of European settlers. Woodland Indians were usually most at risk, as they would often encounter wolves suddenly, and at close quarters. An old Nunamiut hunter, in an interview with author Barry Lopez, said that wolves used to attack his people, until the introduction of firearms, at which point the attacks ceased.

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In modern times, as humans begin to encroach on wolf habitats more contacts are being recorded. Often the contact is because the person is walking their pet dog, and the wolf pack considers the dog a prey item, inciting an attack. Retired wolf biologist Mark McNay compiled 80 events in Alaska and Canada where wolves closely approached or attacked people, finding 39 cases of aggression by apparently healthy wolves, and 29 cases of fearless behavior by non-aggressive wolves.

-Wikipedia, Wolf Attacks on Humans

If I had a dollar for every time I heard that there has been no recorded healthy wolf attack on a human, I would retire at 40.
The 'unfortunate' truth is, there has been. Now, before you go "THERE MUST BE A REASON WOLFS NO ATTACK HUMANS FOR NO REASON", has anyone considered the fact that, maybe, wolves just might- kill for fun?
They kill prey animals without need, why not humans?
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No one said we were talking about one particular type of wolf, did they?

Hence the 'if you're talking about greys'.
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Completed APD/AWD Banner!

Sorry, but, let's think about that; Why would wolves kill for fun? It uses up the energy they really need, and wolves aren't that stupid. Anyway, how do the people know that it was a healthy wolf? It coud've been a rabid dog for all we know!

And how would you know that there's been healthy wild wolf attacks, and not more people? And what country is it? I've read many things that all say that according to federal government, none have ever been reported. If this wolf attack you're giving us is true, don't you think it would've made the news or something?

No offense cool blue, but do you have something against grey wolves?

[texaco]

Sorry, but, let's think about that; Why would wolves kill for fun? It uses up the energy they really need, and wolves aren't that stupid. Anyway, how do the people know that it was a healthy wolf? It coud've been a rabid dog for all we know!

Quoting a previous post here:

When prey is vulnerable and abundant, wolves may occasionally surplus kill. Such instances are common in domestic animals, but rare in the wild. In the wild, surplus killing primarily occurs during late winter or spring, when snow is unusually deep (thus impeding the movements of prey) or during the denning period, when wolves require a ready supply of meat when denbound. Medium-sized prey are especially vulnerable to surplus killing, as the swift throat-biting method by which they are killed allows wolves to quickly kill one animal and move on to another. Surplus killing may also occur when adult wolves are teaching their young to hunt.

In North America, incidences of wolves killing coyotes are common, with such incidences being especially common in winter, when coyotes feed on wolf kills. Wolves may attack coyote den sites, digging out and killing the pups. They rarely eat the coyotes they kill.

And also:

Wolves are generally not dangerous to humans, as long as they are in low numbers, have sufficient food, have little contact with humans and are occasionally hunted.

The number of people attacked and killed by wolves varies geographically. Wolf attacks on humans were a rare, but occasional feature of life in pre-20th century Europe: in France alone, historical records indicate that during the period 1580–1830, 3,069 people were killed by wolves, of whom 1,857 were killed by non-rabid wolves.

Between 1840 and 1861, 273 non-rabid attacks resulting in the deaths of 169 children and 7 adults occurred throughout Russia.

One study revealed 80 events in Alaska and Canada where wolves closely approached or attacked people, finding 39 cases of aggression by apparently healthy wolves, and 29 cases of fearless behavior by nonaggressive wolves.

Predatory attacks usually involve single wolves or packs that learn to exploit humans as prey. Such attacks may be preceded by a long period of habituation, in which wolves gradually lose their fear of humans.

Non-rabid wolves are able to distinguish between armed and unarmed people, and will typically avoid investigating people who display self confident demeanors typical of being armed.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gray_wolf

Look! Healthy attacks!

We aren't just pulling stuff out of our rumps, we promise.

If this wolf attack you're giving us is true, don't you think it would've made the news or something?

Um, actually, many did. And many happened in different countries or a fair amount of time ago. My guess at why wolf attacks are happening less frequently is-- that's right, you guessed it-- the greater use of firearms. /twocents

Anyway, how do the people know that it was a healthy wolf? It coud've been a rabid dog for all we know!

It's called witnesses and science.

[wolves+horses]

OK, but a lot of what you're saying makes sense. Cool Blue47 said it was for FUN, which I very highly doubt.

[sidereus]

Omahgawsh, I love that banner Cool Blue. ^^ Did you draw that yourself? O: It's amazing. :3

Also, if you guys are talking about wolves attacking humans and such, I believe it must have been for a reason right? Maybe it was because the human might have provoked the wolf? o;

Usually wolves attack for a reason, true, but occasionally wolves sometimes kill their prey, and either eat very little or not even touch it. Often it is livestock, but sometimes it's elk/deer.
In these occasions, it has been observed there were no pups with the wolves, so no 'teaching to kill' (wouldn't they use rabbits first?), and sometimes they would play and toss around the body.

I'm pretty sure it would be the same with humans. Also, I think I should mention that:
Humans and livestock are pretty easy to kill for an adult predator.
Connection?
Wolves play with easy-to-kill animals, because they don't want to waste effort on a hard-to-kill thing like a bull elk when they are killing for pure sport.
(sorry for long, only the top paragraph is needed to answer your quote :p)
and yesh I did draw it :3 thank you!
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Sorry, but, let's think about that; Why would wolves kill for fun? It uses up the energy they really need, and wolves aren't that stupid. Anyway, how do the people know that it was a healthy wolf? It coud've been a rabid dog for all we know!

And how would you know that there's been healthy wild wolf attacks, and not more people? And what country is it? I've read many things that all say that according to federal government, none have ever been reported. If this wolf attack you're giving us is true, don't you think it would've made the news or something?

No offense cool blue, but do you have something against grey wolves?

Once again I will link: {link}
Wolves not being smart wasn't a part of my post and I don't know why it's relevent to the debate.
When they shot it, it was in normal health. The place where it happened has high wolf numbers, so I would expect an attack to happen.
It did make news.

No, but I like having a nice debate over them..?
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OK, but a lot of what you're saying makes sense. Cool Blue47 said it was for FUN, which I very highly doubt.

My apologies, I was trying to use 'fun' for lack of a better word.
Then again, that was posted at 2 A.M.

[gam]

OK, but a lot of what you're saying makes sense. Cool Blue47 said it was for FUN, which I very highly doubt.

It's not for fun necessarily. I don't think wolves have the mental capacity to deprive pleasure from killing something.
Also, I don't know if this necessarily applies to wolves, but big cats and the like never know when their next meal will be. They'll kill something whenever they get the chance [opportunistic]

[Xelly]

Thanks Blue. :3

Ohh and also, I did tell you guys that I was going to a wildlife park and I did say that in the leaflet they had wolves? Well, I did go and I did see the wolves. ^^ There were five of them and 3 of them were sisters (All grey wolves) and the other two were the brothers (they were black wolves). The keeper of the wolves put a horse leg out for them, but I didn't get to watch them eat it because the keeper said they were quite new and they weren't so sure about what to do. /: You could tell because they were getting spooked... Etc by the wind (as the keeper had said). But it was pretty cool because the Alpha Female was circling around and moving around the area a lot. It was so cool~. I just thought I would let you guys know since I mentioned it. :3

[kishinuma]

cool Xantie

And right now im sort of with wolves+horses.

[Xelly]

^^ It was cool.

Anyway, back to the topic. Which is about wolves attacking humans? I've missed too much. >.<