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Re: Dog Owner Chat v2

Postby FlynnEugene » Sat Jun 28, 2014 5:00 pm

Looks like I will be bringing a ball with me on my walks and trips to the bank :) Get her distracted from everything. One thing that seems to calm her down in the bank is when I put her in a lay down position. Not sure why it works, but it does. She calms down more, so I do that in the bank but i'm not sure if it will work for everything else to... especially if she's excited. I'll probably experiment some to see what helps her, and if I can't detract her I will just take her out of the situation.
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Postby val. » Sat Jun 28, 2014 5:13 pm

Saracirce wrote:
treasure. wrote:
Cardinal wrote:What are you doing about your dogs dog aggression, what methods are you using? I can probably suggest some things.



i tried making him sit down when a dog walks by, but he just flips and start pulling on the leash and barking (which of course makes the other dog go nuts too). i tried using a muzzle too, but he usually just uses his paws to get it off. i don't know what to do now, i don't want to put him on medication because it is going to cost a lot!

If he's able to get it off with his paws, it's not properly fitted. It also doesn't sound like you did much training to get him used to it in the first place. I can't really say much on the aggression issue as I ahven't been following that and I'm not sure.

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Cardinal wrote:I'm hoping they didn't literally mean tazer!? Your average person doesn't even have a tazer?! I.. don't even know. x.x


no not that kind of tazering. like when you poke somebody it's called tazering them. or if you tap them on the nose (not hard, though).

~MidnightDreamer~ wrote:No need to stick noses in pee!! Unless you catch it the exact moment they pee, then they have no clue what they did was wrong. Just that your sticking their nose in pee for some odd reason. (I'm exhausted, but I'm sure one of the others will explain what I mean better.)


yes, that is what i meant...everybody knows not to punish your dog after they have done something bad....


Cardinal wrote:rubbing a dogs nose in their mess is BAD.


i didn't say to rub their noses in the pee, i just said once you catch em' in the act show them what they did wrong and tell them no.
Poking them in the side and bopping them on the nose are all wrong. It leads to dogs fearful of hands and can cause bites.

I also don't believe scolding to work in the case of house training. Nor do I see why you'd have to show them they poo they just did if you're catching them in the act of pooing. Scolding a dog while they're going can lead to the dog not ever wanting to potty in front of you. They don't understand that pottying INSIDE is what's wrong. They think you don't want them pottying at all. The best way to potty train is to be proactive and get your dog outside often. Have a frigging party when they do go outside. Clean up their messes if they have an accident. Period.


also, i have a slight issue with my pug.

i know he is climbing up the ladder of age (he is twelve now) but i take him out with sam and happy to use the bathroom and then lock sam and him up and the next morning, he would just pee and poo everywhere in the kennel. i don't know what is going on, and i'm talking to my sister and mom about putting him down, but the weird thing is, he still likes to run and play, like a puppy!

also, the kennel i use used to be for my rotty, zues, so it's plenty big for sam and rex. and they always cuddle up to each-other, which i find funny because sam sometimes just ignores rex sometimes, lol.

.... You want to put down a senior dog simply because it can't hold it in over night? That's.... ugh... A) Having more frequent bowel and bladder movements is a symptom of aging. It just happens. B) if the dog is otherwise fine, what does this mean they need to be put down? I don't understand. C) This has a completely simple solution in which the dog lives. That solution is called taking the dog out more frequently. hell, get up in the middle of the night and take him out again if you need to. Change feeding times and pick up the water bowl about an hour before bed time so they won't have accidents in the middle of the night. It's really not that hard.[/quote]


[size=85][center][color=#FF8080]you don't need to be rude about it.

he doesn't just use the bathroom in his kennel. he falls down a lot, can't walk long distances and can't stand very long. i wouldn't just put a animal down for no freaking reason. rex has been a childhood pet for me, do you think this is easy? yeah i could do all that, but why would i want to make him live longer in pain when he can't even hold his own bladder or stand on all fours?


Cardinal wrote:Also, Treasure, nearly all of this applies to you as well. Your dog flys into fight mode, mine does as well. Mine has made LEAPS and bounds worth of progress with just counter conditioning and giving her choices.


but you know what the weird thing is? he is a total scaredy-cat around people. i wouldn't say he is shy, but he gets scared easily. he always has his head low and tail tucked between his legs but he is really friendly towards people and children especially. it's like he just goes hulk on dogs to release some hidden beast or something xD i'm working on him with people and not being to easily scared, and he seems to be doing well when i make him do a command or pet him around strangers.

i'll try and get him in a harness, because happy has the same problem slightly. she isn't totally aggressive, but she'll leap at dogs barking her head off, but in a harness she seems a totally different dog. but she is also a puppy so, lol. i also wanna try using a clicker for once, is there some website or store (like petco or petsmart etc) that has those?
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Re: Dog Owner Chat v2

Postby Dappled Sapphire » Sat Jun 28, 2014 8:36 pm

It's not really weird
Human aggression and dog aggression are compleatly different things

I don't know if Scooby would be classed as dog agressive, he will bark and growl at a strange dog but once he gets close enough he just wants to play, he's just a big sook and a complete push over
He just feels the need to bark and growl because he was attacked by another dog.
It's probably partly my fault, I now get nervous taking him close to other dogs especially larger ones.
If a large dog is off its leash I will avoid it or pick him up if we have to go past it, I don't even feel comfortable walking him passed one on its leash as that's how he was attacked, the owner dropped the leash when the dog pulled.
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Re: Dog Owner Chat v2

Postby Saracirce » Sun Jun 29, 2014 12:19 am

Ella Bear wrote:
Cardinal wrote:Ella Bear: Fear issues aren't uncommon and are not always a sign of poor socialization. Do lots of confidence building activities like playing tug and letting her win. Set easily obtainable goals in training and throw huge mega parties when she achieves them, spelling out exactly what you want from them.

Being more shy on leash is pretty common. It has to do with choice. Off leash a dog can do as it pleases, pick and chose exactly how it interacts with the world. On leash a dogs choices are limited. Be careful, fear and stress can evoke wither flight OR fight and can lead to reactivity and a "I'll get them first so they don't get me" mindset.

I'd pick up the books Fired up, Freaked out, and Frantic as well as On Talking Terms with Dogs; Calming Signals. Otherwise do research into counter conditioning and make sure that all amazingly awesome things rain from the heavens whenever something scary is around. If this means meatloaf has to be carried in your pockets then meatloaf needs to be in your pockets. Watch your dog, stand up for your dog. If theres any stress nobody needs to be touching her and it needs to be evaluated whether she needs to be removed from the particular situation.


Also, Treasure, nearly all of this applies to you as well. Your dog flys into fight mode, mine does as well. Mine has made LEAPS and bounds worth of progress with just counter conditioning and giving her choices.



Thank you so much! I am really trying to work with her on everything, so I hope all of this will help somewhat. I will make sure to do some more research because honestly I don't want to isolate her from her problems, I know she has problems and I want to help her with them. Isolating her from things that bother her is going to do the opposite, so thank you. I will be working on all of this :)

Oh stop. I didn't tell you to isolate her. The way you were talking, it sounded a lot like 'oh, if I just throw her in with a bunch of people, she'll get over it.' And, considering the fact that you said she hides behind her legs and pees herself, you have been letting her get over threshold.

If you have a 'professional trainer' who is oh so experienced, why'd you come onto a kid's forum asking for advice anyway?
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Re: Dog Owner Chat v2

Postby Temper » Sun Jun 29, 2014 1:34 am

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Re: Dog Owner Chat v2

Postby MacGyver » Sun Jun 29, 2014 4:03 am

Question: Are Boston Terriers considered a "bully breed"?
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Re: Dog Owner Chat v2

Postby Saracirce » Sun Jun 29, 2014 4:08 am

MacGyver wrote:Question: Are Boston Terriers considered a "bully breed"?

yep. they're a bully breed. The founding dog was believed to be an English Bulldog/White Terrier cross (it depends on who you ask. Some sources list him as a Bull And Terrier type dog which is probably essentially the same thing)
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Postby urie » Sun Jun 29, 2014 6:56 am

    TREASURE: '' also, i have a slight issue with my pug.
    i know he is climbing up the ladder of age (he is twelve now) but i take him out with sam and happy to use the bathroom and then lock sam and him up and the next morning, he would just pee and poo everywhere in the kennel. i don't know what is going on, and i'm talking to my sister and mom about putting him down, but the weird thing is, he still likes to run and play, like a puppy!

    also, the kennel i use used to be for my rotty, zues, so it's plenty big for sam and rex. and they always cuddle up to each-other, which i find funny because sam sometimes just ignores rex sometimes, lol. ''

    SARACIRCE: ''.... You want to put down a senior dog simply because it can't hold it in over night? That's.... ugh... A) Having more frequent bowel and bladder movements is a symptom of aging. It just happens. B) if the dog is otherwise fine, what does this mean they need to be put down? I don't understand. C) This has a completely simple solution in which the dog lives. That solution is called taking the dog out more frequently. hell, get up in the middle of the night and take him out again if you need to. Change feeding times and pick up the water bowl about an hour before bed time so they won't have accidents in the middle of the night. It's really not that hard.''


    TREAUSRE: ''you don't need to be rude about it.

    he doesn't just use the bathroom in his kennel. he falls down a lot, can't walk long distances and can't stand very long. i wouldn't just put a animal down for no freaking reason. rex has been a childhood pet for me, do you think this is easy? yeah i could do all that, but why would i want to make him live longer in pain when he can't even hold his own bladder or stand on all fours?''


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Saracirce wasn't being rude, blunt, yes, but not rude.
I think she (and I) were a little confused. '' Runs around and plays like a puppy'' sounds allot different to '' Can't stand on all fours and falls down allot''

You could try to explain more in the future, and maybe people wouldn't be '' rude'' to you :) Sorry for butting in here >.<

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Re: Dog Owner Chat v2

Postby Tipsy » Sun Jun 29, 2014 7:01 am

MacGyver wrote:Question: Are Boston Terriers considered a "bully breed"?


Idk but in NY yes, they are not allowed certain parts.
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Re: Dog Owner Chat v2

Postby Cardinal » Sun Jun 29, 2014 7:18 am

MacGyver wrote:Question: Are Boston Terriers considered a "bully breed"?


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