Fish Lovers 3.0 [new poll]

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The members list is getting long. Should I change the way it's set up?

Yes, only list people's usernames
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Yes, only list people's usernames and the species of fish they own
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No, I like it the way it is
68
14%
Other (PM me with your idea)
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Re: Fish Lovers 3.0

Postby Gryffindor's Sword » Mon Sep 29, 2014 1:58 pm

So yesterday at my trip to the LFS, I got 4 mystery snails and I'm very excited about them! I got 1 black, 1 blue, and 2 gold( the good were on sale :p). I'm hoping for some eggs within the besmxt couple of weeks but until then I'll enjoy watching them! It's been a few years since I've had snails and I can't believe I forgot how much I love them! They are in a tank with my ottos and 8 baby guppies. I put in a piece of romaine lettuce (a full piece) and they ate half of it before the ottos got there! They must've been starving at the pet store.
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Re: Fish Lovers 3.0

Postby Muddi » Mon Sep 29, 2014 2:24 pm

Hi guys! I have a question that I couldn't find an answer for.

So I added a school of neon tetras to my tank the other day. (I added 8. I'll add more in not long from now, but didn't want to overload my tank at one time.) My question is; one of the tetra doesn't school. He isn't hiding either and just does whatever on his own. When the school passes by he might go with them for a little and then just leaves to go off again. He has been monitored and doesn't appear sick at all and shows no ill signs. He acts perfectly normal aside from the schooling thing. Is he just an oddball or is there something I should change?

*I looked it up and sometimes they do this if the group isn't big enough because they feel they would be more secure by themselves. However, when this is the case, they will usually hide and act timid. He is not.
*Sickness was another reason I saw but he shows 0 signs of illness; I will continue to monitor him, however.

(Also, for those wondering; I decided on german blues. I was over longing for a betta but agreed it was not for the best. : P)
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Re: Fish Lovers 3.0

Postby Charchar2 » Mon Sep 29, 2014 2:29 pm

Ok, guys, I REALLY need help. My betta's in a bad way and I'm trying to figure out anything I could possibly do to save him. ;___;
He is in a very small tank because I -- being the idiot that I am -- was supposed to get a much bigger, ready for fish tank a few days later, and I was him and had to have him. The big-tank deal fell through and he's been in the little one for far too long. I haven't been changing out the water as much as I should and just overall I've made a huge mess of things. ;^;
He's been doing mostly fine, but last night he seemed a little listless, coasting around the top of the tank but leaning on his side worryingly. I tested the water and it's awful -- not cycled at all, lots of nitrites, oh jeez. I did a 50% water change and put in Amquel-something that was supposed to reduce them. This morning, the water was a bit better but still pretty bad; and he still wasn't looking very good. I did a 50% water change and then my dad later insisted on doing a 100%, because the nitrite levels were still super high.
A couple hours later, he's laying on the bottom of the tank, gills barely moving. He's tried to get up a couple times, but he keeps falling back down.

Basically, I'm completely TERRIBLE for putting him in such a small, uncycled tank, and trust me, I'm never doing it again. But at this point, is there anything at all I could do to save him or at least improve his chances?
The only somewhat cycled tank in the house is my sisters, which has another male beta.

Pleeeease help if you have any ideas ;___; I know he's probably a goner but I'm willing to do anything that could help <\3
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Re: Fish Lovers 3.0

Postby scythe. » Mon Sep 29, 2014 2:44 pm

Charchar2 wrote:Ok, guys, I REALLY need help. My betta's in a bad way and I'm trying to figure out anything I could possibly do to save him. ;___;
He is in a very small tank because I -- being the idiot that I am -- was supposed to get a much bigger, ready for fish tank a few days later, and I was him and had to have him. The big-tank deal fell through and he's been in the little one for far too long. I haven't been changing out the water as much as I should and just overall I've made a huge mess of things. ;^;
He's been doing mostly fine, but last night he seemed a little listless, coasting around the top of the tank but leaning on his side worryingly. I tested the water and it's awful -- not cycled at all, lots of nitrites, oh jeez. I did a 50% water change and put in Amquel-something that was supposed to reduce them. This morning, the water was a bit better but still pretty bad; and he still wasn't looking very good. I did a 50% water change and then my dad later insisted on doing a 100%, because the nitrite levels were still super high.
A couple hours later, he's laying on the bottom of the tank, gills barely moving. He's tried to get up a couple times, but he keeps falling back down.

Basically, I'm completely TERRIBLE for putting him in such a small, uncycled tank, and trust me, I'm never doing it again. But at this point, is there anything at all I could do to save him or at least improve his chances?
The only somewhat cycled tank in the house is my sisters, which has another male beta.

Pleeeease help if you have any ideas ;___; I know he's probably a goner but I'm willing to do anything that could help <\3


*not at all an expert but has a bit of experience*
First of all, a 100 percent water change without a filter isn't at all a good thing. It gets rid of all the good bacteria which in and of itself can kill fish.
But some of the symptoms prior to the water change sound like gill flukes. I've never had them happen to my fish (or never known about them...) but I recall reading about them a while back.
This is just what I think is going on, this is by no means a say-all-end-all opinion but I hope it helps! I wish well for the lil' guy.
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Re: Fish Lovers 3.0

Postby Muddi » Mon Sep 29, 2014 3:07 pm

Charchar2 wrote:Ok, guys, I REALLY need help. My betta's in a bad way and I'm trying to figure out anything I could possibly do to save him. ;___;
He is in a very small tank because I -- being the idiot that I am -- was supposed to get a much bigger, ready for fish tank a few days later, and I was him and had to have him. The big-tank deal fell through and he's been in the little one for far too long. I haven't been changing out the water as much as I should and just overall I've made a huge mess of things. ;^;
He's been doing mostly fine, but last night he seemed a little listless, coasting around the top of the tank but leaning on his side worryingly. I tested the water and it's awful -- not cycled at all, lots of nitrites, oh jeez. I did a 50% water change and put in Amquel-something that was supposed to reduce them. This morning, the water was a bit better but still pretty bad; and he still wasn't looking very good. I did a 50% water change and then my dad later insisted on doing a 100%, because the nitrite levels were still super high.
A couple hours later, he's laying on the bottom of the tank, gills barely moving. He's tried to get up a couple times, but he keeps falling back down.

Basically, I'm completely TERRIBLE for putting him in such a small, uncycled tank, and trust me, I'm never doing it again. But at this point, is there anything at all I could do to save him or at least improve his chances?
The only somewhat cycled tank in the house is my sisters, which has another male beta.

Pleeeease help if you have any ideas ;___; I know he's probably a goner but I'm willing to do anything that could help <\3



Do you have a good fish store around? (Not pet store, but a fish store specifically?) You can ask if they have filter media for sale. Some fish stores sell established cartridges to help jump start cycling. You can also ask to take some gravel from their tanks and put it in your own. (Also to help jump-start cycling.) Do you have aquarium salt? (Not marine salt, aquarium.) It will help him relax and will boost him up. Get some water from your sisters tank and add it if her's is more established.

Good luck, betta are hardy so I hope he makes it!
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Re: Fish Lovers 3.0

Postby Dia. » Mon Sep 29, 2014 3:28 pm

Muddi wrote:
Charchar2 wrote:Ok, guys, I REALLY need help. My betta's in a bad way and I'm trying to figure out anything I could possibly do to save him. ;___;
He is in a very small tank because I -- being the idiot that I am -- was supposed to get a much bigger, ready for fish tank a few days later, and I was him and had to have him. The big-tank deal fell through and he's been in the little one for far too long. I haven't been changing out the water as much as I should and just overall I've made a huge mess of things. ;^;
He's been doing mostly fine, but last night he seemed a little listless, coasting around the top of the tank but leaning on his side worryingly. I tested the water and it's awful -- not cycled at all, lots of nitrites, oh jeez. I did a 50% water change and put in Amquel-something that was supposed to reduce them. This morning, the water was a bit better but still pretty bad; and he still wasn't looking very good. I did a 50% water change and then my dad later insisted on doing a 100%, because the nitrite levels were still super high.
A couple hours later, he's laying on the bottom of the tank, gills barely moving. He's tried to get up a couple times, but he keeps falling back down.

Basically, I'm completely TERRIBLE for putting him in such a small, uncycled tank, and trust me, I'm never doing it again. But at this point, is there anything at all I could do to save him or at least improve his chances?
The only somewhat cycled tank in the house is my sisters, which has another male beta.

Pleeeease help if you have any ideas ;___; I know he's probably a goner but I'm willing to do anything that could help <\3



Do you have a good fish store around? (Not pet store, but a fish store specifically?) You can ask if they have filter media for sale. Some fish stores sell established cartridges to help jump start cycling. You can also ask to take some gravel from their tanks and put it in your own. (Also to help jump-start cycling.) Do you have aquarium salt? (Not marine salt, aquarium.) It will help him relax and will boost him up. Get some water from your sisters tank and add it if her's is more established.

Good luck, betta are hardy so I hope he makes it!


Like Muddi said, ask a reliable fish store(or even a friend) if you could have some established filter media, gravel, or decoration. Just keep it in water out of direct sunlight until you put it in his tank.
Or, take a decoration or gravel from your sister's tank. The water alone won't help, Muddi. It's the bacteria that's on the stuff in the tank, not the water.
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Re: Fish Lovers 3.0

Postby Muddi » Mon Sep 29, 2014 3:44 pm

Dia. wrote:
Muddi wrote:
Charchar2 wrote:Ok, guys, I REALLY need help. My betta's in a bad way and I'm trying to figure out anything I could possibly do to save him. ;___;
He is in a very small tank because I -- being the idiot that I am -- was supposed to get a much bigger, ready for fish tank a few days later, and I was him and had to have him. The big-tank deal fell through and he's been in the little one for far too long. I haven't been changing out the water as much as I should and just overall I've made a huge mess of things. ;^;
He's been doing mostly fine, but last night he seemed a little listless, coasting around the top of the tank but leaning on his side worryingly. I tested the water and it's awful -- not cycled at all, lots of nitrites, oh jeez. I did a 50% water change and put in Amquel-something that was supposed to reduce them. This morning, the water was a bit better but still pretty bad; and he still wasn't looking very good. I did a 50% water change and then my dad later insisted on doing a 100%, because the nitrite levels were still super high.
A couple hours later, he's laying on the bottom of the tank, gills barely moving. He's tried to get up a couple times, but he keeps falling back down.

Basically, I'm completely TERRIBLE for putting him in such a small, uncycled tank, and trust me, I'm never doing it again. But at this point, is there anything at all I could do to save him or at least improve his chances?
The only somewhat cycled tank in the house is my sisters, which has another male beta.

Pleeeease help if you have any ideas ;___; I know he's probably a goner but I'm willing to do anything that could help <\3



Do you have a good fish store around? (Not pet store, but a fish store specifically?) You can ask if they have filter media for sale. Some fish stores sell established cartridges to help jump start cycling. You can also ask to take some gravel from their tanks and put it in your own. (Also to help jump-start cycling.) Do you have aquarium salt? (Not marine salt, aquarium.) It will help him relax and will boost him up. Get some water from your sisters tank and add it if her's is more established.

Good luck, betta are hardy so I hope he makes it!


Like Muddi said, ask a reliable fish store(or even a friend) if you could have some established filter media, gravel, or decoration. Just keep it in water out of direct sunlight until you put it in his tank.
Or, take a decoration or gravel from your sister's tank. The water alone won't help, Muddi. It's the bacteria that's on the stuff in the tank, not the water.


Derp on my end! I meant to help control the alkalinity if she did a 100% water change. But yes, your sister's gravel and decor will help as well. : ) (Although it sounded like her's isn't very far along, but any good bacteria colonies are better than zero!)
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Re: Fish Lovers 3.0

Postby Charchar2 » Mon Sep 29, 2014 3:45 pm

I will definitely try that if he makes it to tomorrow. At the rate he's going I'm worried he won't be around long enough for the tank to cycle </3
Judging by the white burns on his head and his faded colors, plus the super high nitrite levels,I'm guessing he has nitrite poisoning, and in such an advanced state,apparently there's no good treatment. *^* I'm just going to do my best to get the nitrite levels down and hope he might make it </33
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Re: Fish Lovers 3.0

Postby deletedaccplsignore » Tue Sep 30, 2014 2:52 am

Muddi wrote:Hi guys! I have a question that I couldn't find an answer for.

So I added a school of neon tetras to my tank the other day. (I added 8. I'll add more in not long from now, but didn't want to overload my tank at one time.) My question is; one of the tetra doesn't school. He isn't hiding either and just does whatever on his own. When the school passes by he might go with them for a little and then just leaves to go off again. He has been monitored and doesn't appear sick at all and shows no ill signs. He acts perfectly normal aside from the schooling thing. Is he just an oddball or is there something I should change?

*I looked it up and sometimes they do this if the group isn't big enough because they feel they would be more secure by themselves. However, when this is the case, they will usually hide and act timid. He is not.
*Sickness was another reason I saw but he shows 0 signs of illness; I will continue to monitor him, however.

(Also, for those wondering; I decided on german blues. I was over longing for a betta but agreed it was not for the best. : P)


I had a school of neons and one little guy just had always liked to be on his own. Originally we had only gotten one neon (him ) because we didn't want to overstock our tank. About a few weeks later we got him 3 little friends and they did fine. Lighting still didn't school, instead he swam around the tank on his own. He was still perfectly happy and healthy though. 3 months later, a mysterious disease killed all of my fish. Except for him. So we bought him one little neon fry and he doesn't school with it but he is still happy and healthy. As long as he is healthy and happy he is probably just and oddball like mine.
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Re: Fish Lovers 3.0

Postby Dakotak » Tue Sep 30, 2014 6:19 am

Just to let y'all know Petco is having its dollar per gallon sale along with an anniversary sale. It's been terrible avoiding buying things when I go into work. x.x
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