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Re: Fish Lovers 2.0

Postby ~AlphaWolf~ » Mon Oct 22, 2012 11:00 pm

Mmm nice betta above me :D
I love watching Chewy(one of my bettas) Ride a loose plant XD
Hell lay on it and ride it when it gets blown around in the current,and I just saw my hi fin cory land like a spaceship XD
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Re: Fish Lovers 2.0

Postby dark dragon » Tue Oct 23, 2012 3:42 am

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How many tanks do you have: 4 set up one i am taking down for a bit i have a 30 gal. tall a 10 gal. a 20 gal. that i am taking down and i just got a 1 or 1.5? unsure as to exact size?
Type of fish that you have:fancy guppys and two plecos.
Your fish's names: a male guppy named blue (he is orange XD) and a female named delta a male guppy named snake skin the plecos are dog and micro
How long have you had fish:ooo hard to say i have always had fish around mine or my dads (he has a 150 gal. tall) for fish of my own i would say at least 5 years min.
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Re: Fish Lovers 2.0

Postby Cardinal » Tue Oct 23, 2012 5:29 pm

So.. I found a Krib fry in my 29 gallon today. The little guy is about 1/2 an inch long and really spunky. Was a huge surprise because I moved mom and dad to my 30 gallon a while back because my heater broke. No idea how the little guy is surviving freezing temps (Down to atleast 62) at night. Guess it speeds up my want for a new heater. The goldbarbs are still in the 29 gallon, but they tolerate coldwater temps very well. ope the little guy makes it. :(
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Re: Fish Lovers 2.0

Postby fairytale. » Tue Oct 23, 2012 6:06 pm

Sadly, I lost some fishies. I found two of my ghost shrimp dead today while doing my tank checks/feedings, and I lost some guppies. The shrimp were full size, though, so I'm thinking that maybe it was just their time. Everything is spot on in that tank, so who knows. I'm honestly not surprised about the guppies, haha. My mom decided to get them, even though I told her my empty tank wasn't big enough. I had to do a 50%ish water change yesterday, which was probably hard on them, and a few already seemed shocked from the move from the pet store. So I have two girls left, and I did an emergency tank change. I cleaned out an old one, added an airstone and a little fishy castle. One gal seems happy, but the other has clamped fins like she did in the other tank. Ahh well, we'll see how this goes. Now that I have a debit card and money on it, I'm going to stop by PetSmart, and I hope to pick up a ten gallon, if I can get room for it. If not, the biggest one I can afford and have room for. Then I will probably clean and set up another tank to keep a few guppies in for a few days before moving both batches in there. I dunno, we'll see what happens xD I honestly want a calico ryukin goldfish :x or another betta, haha, but I don't know. It has been a while since I've had four tanks running xD
I... Should probably fill out that form people have posted. Maybe after I get this guppy situation under control.
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Re: Fish Lovers 2.0

Postby Dakotak » Tue Oct 23, 2012 6:21 pm

Bowls are FOES!! Thought you guys might like this video. What do yall think of it? Yay or Nay?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDFDC4yfB1Q&lc=f3kUKN_ERrdou6v_rZDVyyExxCYAPB-usA3oA-mqIzo&feature=inbox
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Re: Fish Lovers 2.0

Postby fairytale. » Tue Oct 23, 2012 6:34 pm

Dakotak wrote:
Bowls are FOES!! Thought you guys might like this video. What do yall think of it? Yay or Nay?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDFDC4yfB1Q&lc=f3kUKN_ERrdou6v_rZDVyyExxCYAPB-usA3oA-mqIzo&feature=inbox



I have actually wondered about bowls! Mostly I hear about it for bettas and goldfish, but I just mean in general. You can get tanks the same size as bowls (for example, a two/three gallon bowl), but somehow, the bowl is worse than the tank. Is there something different about the shape, or something? I have a veil tail betta in a two gallon bowl, where I do regular cleanings, and he is very happy. I wouldn't put him in anything smaller, but seeing as he's done so well, I wouldn't feel a need to put him in anything bigger. He' been in the bowl for a year now, and it very happy. He has a heater so the bowl is warm, and while I would love a filter or air stone, I feel like it would bother his fins too much. So... Yeah, why all the hate about bowls when you can find just as small tanks?
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Re: Fish Lovers 2.0

Postby Dakotak » Tue Oct 23, 2012 6:50 pm

fairytale. -gone- wrote:
Dakotak wrote:
Bowls are FOES!! Thought you guys might like this video. What do yall think of it? Yay or Nay?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDFDC4yfB1Q&lc=f3kUKN_ERrdou6v_rZDVyyExxCYAPB-usA3oA-mqIzo&feature=inbox



I have actually wondered about bowls! Mostly I hear about it for bettas and goldfish, but I just mean in general. You can get tanks the same size as bowls (for example, a two/three gallon bowl), but somehow, the bowl is worse than the tank. Is there something different about the shape, or something? I have a veil tail betta in a two gallon bowl, where I do regular cleanings, and he is very happy. I wouldn't put him in anything smaller, but seeing as he's done so well, I wouldn't feel a need to put him in anything bigger. He' been in the bowl for a year now, and it very happy. He has a heater so the bowl is warm, and while I would love a filter or air stone, I feel like it would bother his fins too much. So... Yeah, why all the hate about bowls when you can find just as small tanks?


Let me start off by saying goldfish cannot be kept in anything under 10 gallons. 10 gallons should only be used for quarantine purposes. It should be 20 gallons for the first goldfish then 10 gallons for everyone you add after that. :)

For all the reasons in the video. The gallonage does matter and while yes you can get tanks the same size as bowls. The bowls do not have a big surface area, so that means less gas exchange and less oxygen for the fish and even bettas need oxygen. They can gasp for oxygen but it is better to already have it in the water since gasping can lead to them swallowing the air.
Its hard to filter them and ALL fish need filters. Otherwise your ammonia,nitrates and nitrites will skyrocket. In a lot of cases it is hard to heat them and fish are meant to swim straight. Not in a circle, unless its a stingray or something of the sort.
The make filters that are very good for bettas,they dont have a fast water current so it does not harm or irritate them. I have a nice filter on my 5 gallon betta tank with a blue veil tail boy in it. I will have to get the brand name tomorrow since everyone is asleep right now. But it is just a small filter.
I, personally like to see bettas in 5 gallons, but 2 or 2.5 gallons is the minimum requirement. They enjoy it much more and it gives you a chance to create their natural habitat with plants and ect. :)
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Re: Fish Lovers 2.0

Postby fairytale. » Tue Oct 23, 2012 7:24 pm

Dakotak wrote:
fairytale. -gone- wrote:
Dakotak wrote:
Bowls are FOES!! Thought you guys might like this video. What do yall think of it? Yay or Nay?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDFDC4yfB1Q&lc=f3kUKN_ERrdou6v_rZDVyyExxCYAPB-usA3oA-mqIzo&feature=inbox



I have actually wondered about bowls! Mostly I hear about it for bettas and goldfish, but I just mean in general. You can get tanks the same size as bowls (for example, a two/three gallon bowl), but somehow, the bowl is worse than the tank. Is there something different about the shape, or something? I have a veil tail betta in a two gallon bowl, where I do regular cleanings, and he is very happy. I wouldn't put him in anything smaller, but seeing as he's done so well, I wouldn't feel a need to put him in anything bigger. He' been in the bowl for a year now, and it very happy. He has a heater so the bowl is warm, and while I would love a filter or air stone, I feel like it would bother his fins too much. So... Yeah, why all the hate about bowls when you can find just as small tanks?


Let me start off by saying goldfish cannot be kept in anything under 10 gallons. 10 gallons should only be used for quarantine purposes. It should be 20 gallons for the first goldfish then 10 gallons for everyone you add after that. :)

For all the reasons in the video. The gallonage does matter and while yes you can get tanks the same size as bowls. The bowls do not have a big surface area, so that means less gas exchange and less oxygen for the fish and even bettas need oxygen. They can gasp for oxygen but it is better to already have it in the water since gasping can lead to them swallowing the air.
Its hard to filter them and ALL fish need filters. Otherwise your ammonia,nitrates and nitrites will skyrocket. In a lot of cases it is hard to heat them and fish are meant to swim straight. Not in a circle, unless its a stingray or something of the sort.
The make filters that are very good for bettas,they dont have a fast water current so it does not harm or irritate them. I have a nice filter on my 5 gallon betta tank with a blue veil tail boy in it. I will have to get the brand name tomorrow since everyone is asleep right now. But it is just a small filter.
I, personally like to see bettas in 5 gallons, but 2 or 2.5 gallons is the minimum requirement. They enjoy it much more and it gives you a chance to create their natural habitat with plants and ect. :)



The space requirements for goldies are exactly why I have none, actually xD I have no room for a tank that size right now!

I'm not quite sure I understand the whole "gasping for air" thing. My bowl isn't filled to the brim, so there is plenty of area at the top for mister Pinto Bean. Even if there wasn't, how would getting oxygen be any different? I've researches fish care, but before that video, I had never heard that it was any different getting oxygen from a bowl.
I disagree that all tanks need filters. If you monitor your water carefully, you can tackle problems at the start. it may be easier with a filter, but I don't feel as though they are necessary. As I said before, Pinto has been in his bowl for a year now, is perfectly happy, and blowing huge bubble nests. It may be better to move him into a larger tank, but nothing has really convinced me of that.

I agree larger tanks are fun. I have a five gallon with plants and flower pots galore.
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Re: Fish Lovers 2.0

Postby Dakotak » Tue Oct 23, 2012 8:10 pm

fairytale. -gone- wrote:The space requirements for goldies are exactly why I have none, actually xD I have no room for a tank that size right now!

I'm not quite sure I understand the whole "gasping for air" thing. My bowl isn't filled to the brim, so there is plenty of area at the top for mister Pinto Bean. Even if there wasn't, how would getting oxygen be any different? I've researches fish care, but before that video, I had never heard that it was any different getting oxygen from a bowl.
I disagree that all tanks need filters. If you monitor your water carefully, you can tackle problems at the start. it may be easier with a filter, but I don't feel as though they are necessary. As I said before, Pinto has been in his bowl for a year now, is perfectly happy, and blowing huge bubble nests. It may be better to move him into a larger tank, but nothing has really convinced me of that.

I agree larger tanks are fun. I have a five gallon with plants and flower pots galore.


My goldies have a 110 gallon tank. It takes up my whole room. XD

Fish take in oxygen from their gills, they can take it in though their mouth BUT if is goes to the stomach it can cause floating issues or swim bladder issues. You see this a lot with fancy goldfish since they use up a lot of oxygen they will gasp at the surface. Its kind of like when we eat or drink, if we do it too fast we get air in our stomach and that can be painful or lead to gas, and fish don't expel gas like we do. So it can be worse. Possibly messing up their swim bladder(the organ that controls balance int the water) and them floating all over the tank.
Tanks with a bigger surface area(the area where the water meets with air) have more oxygen in the water. Moving water puts oxygen into the water. Usually this is done by filters or air bubbles.

Do you have a liquid test kit that measures ammonia,nitrates and nitrites? How often do you test? How often do you do water changes and how much of the water?
Wish a fish with no source of filtration you should be doing daily water changes since there is no place for the bacteria to grow and colonize and break down the waste. It can grow in the gravel, but that is a double edged sword since waste and food can build up there and poison the water. Plus, not a lot of bacteria will grow on gravel.
If you are an experienced keeper it can be done without a filter(with daily water changes or lots of plants). But if you had to go out of town for a week you could not change out the water for it to be safe, and since it takes about a month for a filter to be colonized you could easily lose a fish.
Not a lot of fish keepers are willing to do daily water changes or monitor the water chemistry closely like others would be so it is better to have a filter, not only that but like I said. If you had to leave the fish for a while you would have to worry about his waste building up. With a filter you dont have to worry about it as much. Also having a filter will be able to catch ammonia spikes and break down the waste even before you know what has happened.
A fish living in a tank with no filter and not frequent enough water changes is like us living in a bathroom without flushing the toilet but still using it, you have to eat and sleep there, only flushing the toilet when you clean the bowl. Its nasty and not only can you get very sick from it you can die from the bacteria from your waste if you live in it for long. Its the same for fish or any animal.

I hope I don't offend you by saying this but as fish keepers it is our responsibility to make sure that no matter what happens our fish are safe. This means going the extra mile and having a backup plan, since they cant run away when they are in pain or have no way of saying "this hurts". And as much as I hate to admit it, we cant speak to our fish(even though I still do) and ask them if everything is ok. So we truly don't know if something is wrong, the only way to be sure is to walk on the side of caution and provide optimal living conditions. You don't have to have fancy gadgets, a small sponge filter that costs under 15 bucks that you can make would be good and VERY beneficial to his health, as even just a week of being in .25 ammonia can be deadly if the conditions are right.

My tank just went through a cycle bump, my PH is 8.2 and the higher P.H you have the more deadly ammonia,nitrates and nitrites are. I lost one fish from a mix of gasping/swim bladder issues ,ammonia,dropsy and getting stuck to the intake because she was so weak.
Good filtration and clean water is a necessity in this hobby. Filtration= good, clean water and good,clean water = a healthy fish that will live a long time. :D

Edit: New species of betta has been found in Thailand and ohmyfins is he gorgeous. I suggest a field trip to go get it!!
http://www.sci-news.com/biology/article00670.html
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Re: Fish Lovers 2.0

Postby Dappled Sapphire » Tue Oct 23, 2012 11:17 pm

Dakotak wrote:
Edit: New species of betta has been found in Thailand and ohmyfins is he gorgeous. I suggest a field trip to go get it!!
http://www.sci-news.com/biology/article00670.html

Wow he is stunning, and they live in polluted brackish water wow
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